Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
After playing this deck for 2+ years now I find myself looking for a way to mix things up a little bit. Has anyone ever tried jamming a few extra combat effects? I personally run Scourge of the Throne and if he gets to attack at least one player usually dies. And if I get to clone him...
That being the case, I'm thinking about jamming a few extra combat affects. These seem the best, though there are others:
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
That's brutal, but kinda expensive as well. I run Profaner of the Dead for most of my bouncing needs; at 4cmc and being a wizards makes him an allstar! It's because of him I've cut also cut Cyclonic Rift.
Yea profaner is a workhorse, usually never sad to draw it. I keep looking at Noxious Gearhulk and seeing potential. I feel like it is a better version of shadowborn demon for those that still run it, and it gives us a way to bring our life back up in a pinch. Seeing this kill a huge general for a big life swing may make it worth testing.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
About Gonti, Lord of Luxury: I am thinking to cut Mulldrifter for him. I rarely evoked Mulldrifter and I want to bring down my mana curve, so Gonti seems like a fit because he is also card advantage like Mulldrifter. Any other thoughts?
Animation Module is nice, but what to cut for it? And I am not sure if I would really want to pump my mana into this or advance my board by playing cards from my hand? Seems more like a lategame card to me. It could be nice for those who already play a Trinket Mage toolbox.
What are you running w/ the same or higher CMC as Mulldrifter? While I'm all for reducing curve, I cannot imagine cutting Mulldrifter. 1) You're much more likely to find something you want to cast in your own deck than your opponents. 2) Lower curve helps improve velocity and you end up just wanting more cards anyway. I'd want to find a way to run both.
Ouch! That's never happened to me yet, but if there's enough of those effects in your group id understand cutting it. Such s strong piece of the deck though
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
What do we think about Weaponcraft Enthusiast, it's cheap we can have it enter and throw out a 1/1 and still be able to sac it every turn if we have marchesa out and get a 1/1 every turn and if we have mikaeus out with it then we can get 3 tokens every turn. Is this something we need it can really help go wide with a bunch of tokens since in a 4 player game we get 4 1/1s per turn rotation w/sac outlet and it is self protecting with the 1/1.
Edit: never mind I didn't see that fabricate is an all or none keyword to where you either get 2 tokens or 2 counters.
i thought about marionette master, if it didn't cost 6, I could see it for straight up token generation. between the 4 bodies getting +4 damage every swing with dethrone and having lifeloss on death could've been solid. That said I think our other 6 mana options are stronger, namely if I was looking for a token producer, I would go for grave titan.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Have we ever discussed Riptide Shapeshifter because it feels like a slightly weaker Fleshwrither. In my decklist I noticed I could use it to straight up get urabrask, Dragonlord Silumgar, Sidisi, Drana, Necrotic Ooze, River Kelpie, Olivia, Sakashima, Ogre Battledriver, and Sage of fables. It feels like a perfect toolbox card that I can also use to just get a clone by naming shapeshifter. I just wonder is this something we could want?
Wow, riptide shapeshifter is kind of awesome, I want to test it for sure
*Edit*
I don't think it's worth testing. I think it is worth including. In my list it nabs over half the deck at instant speed, making it probably stronger then fleshwrither in utility even though it costs more mana.
Being able to name these and not whiff or get the wrong creatures:
bird for strix
cleric for mikeous
rat for crypt rats
advisor for imperial recruiter
merfolk for sage of fables
knight for olivia
shapeshifter for a clone
golem for solemn
soldier for xiahou dun
illusion of aura thief
skeleton for dimir house guard
ooze for necrotic ooze
beast for river kelpie
dragon for scourge
devil for flayer
demon for rune-scarred
praetor for urabrask
warrior for grim-grin
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
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UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Same here. ***** just got real.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
That being the case, I'm thinking about jamming a few extra combat affects. These seem the best, though there are others:
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Mid-Tier: Marchesa Aggro Rose Asmadi Get Dire Tymna Ikra Woke Women Tiana Aura Angel Ruric Thar SMASH Smasher Kraum Mana Positivity Zur Slides
Filthy Casual: WUBRG Jodah WUBRG WUBRG Fatties WUBRG Gahiji Vigilant Vengeance Ezuri Mysterious Morphs
My post a bit up this page suggested it. If I'm playing a deck with blue, Cyclonic Rift is going to be in it. Especially in a deck like this.
RG Xenagos, God of Revels
BG Meren of the Clan Nel Toth
GW Arahbo, Roar of the World
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
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UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
That's brutal, but kinda expensive as well. I run Profaner of the Dead for most of my bouncing needs; at 4cmc and being a wizards makes him an allstar! It's because of him I've cut also cut Cyclonic Rift.
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UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Its pretty magical x-mas land but I just keep imagining a scenario where I bounce it and marchesa just before each of my turns.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Animation Module is nice, but what to cut for it? And I am not sure if I would really want to pump my mana into this or advance my board by playing cards from my hand? Seems more like a lategame card to me. It could be nice for those who already play a Trinket Mage toolbox.
Most of us don't play that many shamans to put the first ability to good use and I think the second ability isn't worth it.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Ouch! That's never happened to me yet, but if there's enough of those effects in your group id understand cutting it. Such s strong piece of the deck though
UWRjeskai nahiri UWR
UBRgrixis titi UBR
UBRgrixis delverUBR
UR ur kikimite UR
EDH
RUG Riku of Two Reflections RUG
UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose UBR
UBRGYidris, Maelstrom Wielder UBRG
UBRJeleva, Nephalia's ScourgeUBR
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UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Edit: never mind I didn't see that fabricate is an all or none keyword to where you either get 2 tokens or 2 counters.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
*Edit*
I don't think it's worth testing. I think it is worth including. In my list it nabs over half the deck at instant speed, making it probably stronger then fleshwrither in utility even though it costs more mana.
Being able to name these and not whiff or get the wrong creatures:
bird for strix
cleric for mikeous
rat for crypt rats
advisor for imperial recruiter
merfolk for sage of fables
knight for olivia
shapeshifter for a clone
golem for solemn
soldier for xiahou dun
illusion of aura thief
skeleton for dimir house guard
ooze for necrotic ooze
beast for river kelpie
dragon for scourge
devil for flayer
demon for rune-scarred
praetor for urabrask
warrior for grim-grin
Pretty solid find ericbsmtg
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)