Thanks i have most of those cards but i don't know what i would change them out with.
I was thinking of adding Purphoros dew to the fact i got some large token producers. I already one game by stilling him then make tons of squirrels followed by a Goblin Game for the win. I was also thinking of putting in Opalescence for a win condition.
So I just Got Norin the wary , quest for the Nihil stone and Aether Snap. Should I put them in my deck... side board them or forget about them and trade them? if i put them in my deck what cards should I get trade out.
Cut the Alara Obelisks. They are ok, but there are better options. You're already running Chromatic Lantern, but add to that:
Coalition Relic - Probably the second-best at fixing after Lantern. Lets you save a mana from the previous turn.
Darksteel Ingot - Any color you want and only goes down to the most judicious of removal.
Spectral Searchlight - Potential political tool, offer mana at critical times in exchange for favors. Also lets you do
Manalith - It gives you whatever color you want, but not much else. Solid.
Other, less good, options include:
Phyrexian Lens - An option, but it's easily the worst of the 6 and harder to find, costing you 1 life per use. I don't run it, but
Gilded Lotus - The higher mana cost makes it less fixy and more stupid-rampy. But THREE mana of any color!
Khalni Gem - Also not terrible. It lets you reuse some land drops and does a double-fix. Beware of artifact destruction though as it does set you back (obv).
Spellshift - Particularly hilarious with Eye of the Storm. That little combo will essentially cast every instant and sorcery in your deck repeatedly, until you run out. Idiotic storm count enabled.
"The distance between genius and insanity... Is measured only by success."
-Elliot Carver, Tomorrow Never Dies
"If violence isn't solving it, you're obviously not using enough!"
-Me
A kid at my local gameshop wanted to break a twenty.
"You got 2 tens?" he asked me.
"No, but I probably got 3 fives." I replied.
"Perfect!"
"You might want to check your math there."
Spellshift - Particularly hilarious with Eye of the Storm. That little combo will essentially cast every instant and sorcery in your deck repeatedly, until you run out. Idiotic storm count enabled.
Sweet i am totally putting in Temporal Aperture and Spellshift. I will need to order most of what you suggested but i like the changes.
Well, since you asked, here's a few other suggestions:
Knowledge Pool - Another lawlzy card. This one gives everyone access to a common card pool, and nothing else. No, you may not cast that spell in your hand. It tends to reward a build heavy on cheap spells, and instants in particular.
No Sol Ring? They are almost dirt cheap right now.
Here is a rather obnoxious lock combo option, if you're into that sort of thing:
Disclaimer: This combo will not make friends. In all likelihood, you will be immediately targeted by the rest of the table in both your current game (if possible) and the following one or more games. You have been warned, proceed at your own risk.
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir - Kind of annoying on his own, he turns off opposing countermagic, suspend, cascade, rebound, spell-based combat tricks, EOT spells, etc. When combined with Knowledge Pool or Possibility Storm, he will turn the game into a kind of degenerate one-sided race. Basically either of those cards + Teferi prevents all your opponents from casting ANY further spells, at all. Omen Machine also works, but less effectively since they can still cast cards out of hand. They can also get cards via tutoring and "technically not a draw" type effects like FoF, Bob, etc.
"The distance between genius and insanity... Is measured only by success."
-Elliot Carver, Tomorrow Never Dies
"If violence isn't solving it, you're obviously not using enough!"
-Me
A kid at my local gameshop wanted to break a twenty.
"You got 2 tens?" he asked me.
"No, but I probably got 3 fives." I replied.
"Perfect!"
"You might want to check your math there."
Thanks for the suggestion but i am going to have to wait one getting land due to me buying all the other cards it took to make this deck. Right now dont mind buying one or to cards so i will look at what gives me the most bag for my buck. I already have knowledge pool in the deck and i will look at adding Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir.
V/r
Michael
1 Karona, False God
Artifact
1 Gate to the Aether
1 Omen Machine
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Obelisk of Bant
1 Obelisk of Esper
1 Obelisk of Grixis
1 Obelisk of Jund
1 Obelisk of Naya
1 Obelisk of Alara
1 Temple Bell
1 Teferi's Puzzle Box
1 Font of Mythos
1 Null Rod
1 Knowledge Pool
1 Howling Mine
1 Horn of Greed
1 Naked Singularity
Lands
1 Gemstone Caverns
1 Command Tower
1 Rupture Spire
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Izzet Guildgate
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Forbidden Orchard
1 Halimar Depths
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Mystifying Maze
5 Mountain
5 Plains
4 Island
5 Swamp
5 Forest
1 Jace Beleren
Creatures
1 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 Braids, Cabal Minion
1 Akroan Horse
1 Norin the Wary
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
1 Jhoira of the Ghitu
1 Sleeper Agent
1 Tempting Wurm
1 Liege of the Hollows
1 Mogg Assassin
1 Heartwood Storyteller
1 Phelddagrif
Sorcery
1 Invincible Hymn
1 Reverse the Sands
1 Tahngarth's Glare
1 Alliance of Arms
1 Goblin Game
1 Unexpected Results
1 Warp World
1 Telemin Performance
1 Scrambleverse
1 thieves' Auction
1 Last Stand
Instant
1 Master Warcraft
1 Chaos Warp
1 Honorable Passage
1 Mana Maze
1 Overabundance
1 Aurification
1 Hive Mind
1 Eye of the Storm
1 Tombstone of Stairwell
1 Confusion in the Ranks
1 Collective Restraint
1 Parallel Lives
1 Predatory Advantage
1 Tide of War
1 Shared Fate
1 Mass Hysteria
1 Chaossphere
1 Seed the Land
1 Natural Emergence
1 Conjured Currency
1 Risky Move
1 Possibility Storm
1 Rites of Flourishing
1 Swirl the Mists
1 Psychic Battle
1 Grip of Chaos
Karona, False God | Sliver King | Horde of Notions | Marchesa, the Black Rose | Rhys the Redeemed | Selvala, Explorer Returned | Angus Mackenale
Vela the Night-Clad | Kaalia of the Vast | Merieke Ri Berit | Jhoira of the Ghitu | Ashling the Pilgrim | Arcum Dagsson
Ertai, Wizard Adept | Glissa, the Traitor | Oona, Queen of the Fae
Diaochan, Artful Beauty
Reins of Power
Twist Allegiance
Capricious Efreet
Fiery Gambit
EDH - Ghave, Guru of Spores
EDH - Rafiq of the Many
EDH - Roon of the Hidden Realm
I was thinking of adding Purphoros dew to the fact i got some large token producers. I already one game by stilling him then make tons of squirrels followed by a Goblin Game for the win. I was also thinking of putting in Opalescence for a win condition.
Karona, False God | Sliver King | Horde of Notions | Marchesa, the Black Rose | Rhys the Redeemed | Selvala, Explorer Returned | Angus Mackenale
Vela the Night-Clad | Kaalia of the Vast | Merieke Ri Berit | Jhoira of the Ghitu | Ashling the Pilgrim | Arcum Dagsson
Ertai, Wizard Adept | Glissa, the Traitor | Oona, Queen of the Fae
Karona, False God | Sliver King | Horde of Notions | Marchesa, the Black Rose | Rhys the Redeemed | Selvala, Explorer Returned | Angus Mackenale
Vela the Night-Clad | Kaalia of the Vast | Merieke Ri Berit | Jhoira of the Ghitu | Ashling the Pilgrim | Arcum Dagsson
Ertai, Wizard Adept | Glissa, the Traitor | Oona, Queen of the Fae
Karona, False God | Sliver King | Horde of Notions | Marchesa, the Black Rose | Rhys the Redeemed | Selvala, Explorer Returned | Angus Mackenale
Vela the Night-Clad | Kaalia of the Vast | Merieke Ri Berit | Jhoira of the Ghitu | Ashling the Pilgrim | Arcum Dagsson
Ertai, Wizard Adept | Glissa, the Traitor | Oona, Queen of the Fae
Other, less good, options include:
A couple other chaos-esque cards:
Karona, Warden of AlcatrazWUBRG
The EPIC EDHWUBRG
Sun Quan Aggro1U
Animar GoodstuffRUG
Horobi MBCB
Medomai NerfWU
Saffi EriksdotterGW
Zur (CF)WUB
-Elliot Carver, Tomorrow Never Dies
"If violence isn't solving it, you're obviously not using enough!"
-Me
A kid at my local gameshop wanted to break a twenty.
"You got 2 tens?" he asked me.
"No, but I probably got 3 fives." I replied.
"Perfect!"
"You might want to check your math there."
Sweet i am totally putting in Temporal Aperture and Spellshift. I will need to order most of what you suggested but i like the changes.
As of today i have edited the deck again.
Cards IN
Cards OUT
Any ideas if these changes are good or should change some back?
Karona, False God | Sliver King | Horde of Notions | Marchesa, the Black Rose | Rhys the Redeemed | Selvala, Explorer Returned | Angus Mackenale
Vela the Night-Clad | Kaalia of the Vast | Merieke Ri Berit | Jhoira of the Ghitu | Ashling the Pilgrim | Arcum Dagsson
Ertai, Wizard Adept | Glissa, the Traitor | Oona, Queen of the Fae
Knowledge Pool - Another lawlzy card. This one gives everyone access to a common card pool, and nothing else. No, you may not cast that spell in your hand. It tends to reward a build heavy on cheap spells, and instants in particular.
I noticed your mana base is very budget. Still, I feel it could use a little work. I would tend to run more than 34 lands in an EDH like this.
So with that in mind, here are some budget friendly options:
Terramorphic Expanse / Evolving Wilds - Why are you not running these? They the most basic of budget mana fixing.
Transguild Promenade - Essentially a Rupture Spire #2, if you're into that kind of thing
Reflecting Pool - Not dirt cheap, but fairly inexpensive, and almost as good as Command Tower late game.
Vivid Crag - Taps for anything you want twice, pretty handy.
Vivid Creek - Ditto
Vivid Grove - Ditto
Vivid Marsh - Ditto
Vivid Meadow - Ditto
Arcane Sanctum - Alara Triland for Esper
Crumbling Necropolis - Ditto for Grixis
Jungle Shrine - Ditto for Naya
Savage Lands - Ditto for Jund
Seaside Citadel - Ditto for Bant
No Sol Ring? They are almost dirt cheap right now.
Here is a rather obnoxious lock combo option, if you're into that sort of thing:
Disclaimer: This combo will not make friends. In all likelihood, you will be immediately targeted by the rest of the table in both your current game (if possible) and the following one or more games. You have been warned, proceed at your own risk.
Karona, Warden of AlcatrazWUBRG
The EPIC EDHWUBRG
Sun Quan Aggro1U
Animar GoodstuffRUG
Horobi MBCB
Medomai NerfWU
Saffi EriksdotterGW
Zur (CF)WUB
-Elliot Carver, Tomorrow Never Dies
"If violence isn't solving it, you're obviously not using enough!"
-Me
A kid at my local gameshop wanted to break a twenty.
"You got 2 tens?" he asked me.
"No, but I probably got 3 fives." I replied.
"Perfect!"
"You might want to check your math there."
Thanks for the suggestion but i am going to have to wait one getting land due to me buying all the other cards it took to make this deck. Right now dont mind buying one or to cards so i will look at what gives me the most bag for my buck. I already have knowledge pool in the deck and i will look at adding Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir.
Karona, False God | Sliver King | Horde of Notions | Marchesa, the Black Rose | Rhys the Redeemed | Selvala, Explorer Returned | Angus Mackenale
Vela the Night-Clad | Kaalia of the Vast | Merieke Ri Berit | Jhoira of the Ghitu | Ashling the Pilgrim | Arcum Dagsson
Ertai, Wizard Adept | Glissa, the Traitor | Oona, Queen of the Fae