...but why not have TWO five-drops dropped by her effect? It just seems too good to pass up, and interacts nicely with the always lovely Strionic Resonator, which I run because it copies almost everything that my big-ass beaters do on ETB, attack, whatever. I get why some people wouldn't run Resonator, but Bracers seems like an auto-include for Mayael.
We should all only play G/x decks because they are the most objectively fun and anyone who disagrees does not know the truth about EDH. Everyone should just play their decks because interaction beyond high fiving about how many land are in play is unfun and equivalent to casting Stasis while kicking puppies. I for one will never play with anyone who casts tutors, removal spells, blue cards, or things I arbitrarily decide I don't like but will probably cast myself later.
...but why not have TWO five-drops dropped by her effect? It just seems too good to pass up, and interacts nicely with the always lovely Strionic Resonator, which I run because it copies almost everything that my big-ass beaters do on ETB, attack, whatever. I get why some people wouldn't run Resonator, but Bracers seems like an auto-include for Mayael.
You shouldn't need another card to make 1 card good ya know? I get why people would include it, but I don't think it's worth it. I would much rather have open mana to bluff a boros charm than to double mayael's ability.
When they spin into myth mayael or she's sitting in the command zone, what is the resonater or the bracelet going to do for you? I would much rather have a signet before a resonater/bracelet.
I tried them out in the deck, and they always got cut. You dont see them when you need them and you see them too early or late game when its irrelevant, and Ill gladly let you waste a tutor if you ever wanna search for this card lol
If you aren't playing stalking vengence. Play it. I once beat two opponents, one had his creatures at about 30/30's trample w/ vigor out and the other had spike weaver (In karador) avacyn and the archon so players cant attack you. I had vengence out and just boardwiped both of their faces for over 40. Hilarious way to win and it is fairly common.
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern:
DredgeVine EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima Standard:
5 mana, flying, 5/5, bolster 2. She becomes a 7/7 on her own and if she sticks +2/+2 each turn on anything gets out of hand. She is the real deal!
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As much fun as it is to go big, having undercosted fatties that are respectable even late game is important because either Mayael will be too expensive or she'll get tossed into your library.
Totally agree. The occasional 4, but mostly 5, and 6 drops should be the meat and potatoes of the deck.
I've always found that Avenger has been one of my least impressive creatures. Maybe I'm just playing it wrong, but it seems that every time it hits the table, I either don't have enough lands to make a significant number of dudes, or I already have so many lands that I don't get enough counters on them. Either way, the tokens rarely last more than a turn before it provokes a board wipe... or someone just kills Avenger before I get any counters. The only reason that I haven't cut it before now is because everyone else considers it to be a must-have, and I assume that a scenario will come up that will prove me wrong.
Avenger hasn't made my list for similar reason. Your impressions are valid. Don't feel discouraged friend, a lot of cards that people consider "staples" in certain decks look great on paper but are very underwhelming in actual use.
Gods are what we wanted but enchantments are what we got. They're just not that good for this type of deck. Nylea and Xenagos are decent but even Nylea is kind of so-so. Indestructible is a little moot when not in creature mode and the mana sinks aren't honestly that great.
It's a lot of mana to sink into the bracers with Mayael to reap the benefits. Generally creature quality is more important than quantity. Also the deck should be able to play fluidly without the commander.
Alright guys! I'll be posting my decklist soon. I've been testing the crap out of this deck lately, and it's worked better now than It ever has. Has anyone else thought of making her a dragon subtheme deck?
I already run Thundermaw Hellkite, Hellkite Charger, Balefire Dragon (who has done an outSTANDING job at securing his place in this deck. Countless times I have tutored for Thundermaw and Balefire together with Tooth and Nail, To completely annihilate someones field.
Dragons of Tarkir means I'm going to have to make many, many different lists for Mayael now. My current list is pretty heavy on dragons, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. Once we have the full spoiler, I'm going to take a hard look at the set and figure out what goes in what list. These fatties are bonkers.
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Hellkite can damage players.
Flash is only mildly relevant in Mayael.
Trample I think wins this one, at least for me. It's becoming SO relevant for my meta, but I think if your meta is a little more control oriented then the flash guy might take the cake.
And I'm totally down for, "Mayael, Mother of Dragons" lol
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern:
DredgeVine EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima Standard:
Just got my Mayael done custom art! I would love the name "Mayael, Mother of Dragons" I really want to make a dragon tribal variant.
ya I dont think I can drop my godsire or my angels but... I oculd probably drop a few others of mine for more dragons. Mother of dragons is definitely a real thing now
Dromoka: Pretty obvious include. I like that she has 7 toughness, as 6/x flying guys are everywhere in this format.
Atarka: Replaces Bogardan Hellkite in every non-dragon tribal list running it. In dragon tribal you just play both.
Surrak: If you are looking for cheap fatties to be able to cast out of hand, I think he's worth trying. Not in generic Mayael lists, though.
Arashin Sovereign: I like that this can put itself on top of your deck, effectively making it immune to traditional removal as long as you have an activation ready. For tribal lists only.
Harbinger of the Hunt: Fine in tribal lists--it's a Scourge of Kher Ridges that's more mana intensive.
Revamping the primer is something that's going to be difficult for me to do given my new work schedule. I may have to hand the primer off to someone else--would anyone be willing to take the reins in this event?
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The tuck rule never hurt too much once I built a better deck. By then, once it get's tucked I USUALLY have lots of cards in my hand that I can just play because I was using Mayael to dig for better stuff. But now we definitely dont have to worry about it lol
RAIKOU: I would love to try to take over the thread but I don't have the free time it takes to properly handle this as well. Just update when you can and dont stress about it. It's pretty obvious what cards we can use for this new set vs the ones that we can't use, so just take your time. This thread is not in a hurry to go anywhere lol
I played a 3 way game, Mayael vs Aurilia the Warleader vs my brother's Oros deck. Iona naming White, with Avacyn out alongside a lot of other goodies... I won that one obviously lol
Mayael is getting to the point to where she hardly every disappoints me. Even if I lose they are extremely close games, which I'm ok with. Can't wait to add the new goodies from the new set
My modern Decks: GBRJundGBR URWJeskai NahiriURW My Legacy Deck: URBGrixis DelverURB My EDH Decks: GJarad, Golgari Lich LordB GRhys, The RedeemedW RWArchangel AvacynRW UWDragonlord OjutaiUW
You shouldn't need another card to make 1 card good ya know? I get why people would include it, but I don't think it's worth it. I would much rather have open mana to bluff a boros charm than to double mayael's ability.
When they spin into myth mayael or she's sitting in the command zone, what is the resonater or the bracelet going to do for you? I would much rather have a signet before a resonater/bracelet.
I tried them out in the deck, and they always got cut. You dont see them when you need them and you see them too early or late game when its irrelevant, and Ill gladly let you waste a tutor if you ever wanna search for this card lol
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
Modern:
DredgeVine
EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima
Standard:
Agreed. If not dragon tribal, 4 toughness isn't a butt we want on a 7 drop.
5 mana, flying, 5/5, bolster 2. She becomes a 7/7 on her own and if she sticks +2/+2 each turn on anything gets out of hand. She is the real deal!
Totally agree. The occasional 4, but mostly 5, and 6 drops should be the meat and potatoes of the deck.
Avenger hasn't made my list for similar reason. Your impressions are valid. Don't feel discouraged friend, a lot of cards that people consider "staples" in certain decks look great on paper but are very underwhelming in actual use.
Gods are what we wanted but enchantments are what we got. They're just not that good for this type of deck. Nylea and Xenagos are decent but even Nylea is kind of so-so. Indestructible is a little moot when not in creature mode and the mana sinks aren't honestly that great.
It's a lot of mana to sink into the bracers with Mayael to reap the benefits. Generally creature quality is more important than quantity. Also the deck should be able to play fluidly without the commander.
Indeed. Farewell, Spellbreaker Behemoth. We had good times together, but a far better version of you has come along, and so you must go.
RGWMayael the AnimaRGW
UBRMarchesa, the Black RoseUBR
Modern Decks
RGWNaya BurnRGW
Yes! my first thought was "I haven't seen anything exciting for my mayael deck in a while, but this dragonlord dromoka is definitely fits the bill."
I already run Thundermaw Hellkite, Hellkite Charger, Balefire Dragon (who has done an outSTANDING job at securing his place in this deck. Countless times I have tutored for Thundermaw and Balefire together with Tooth and Nail, To completely annihilate someones field.
I mean hell The new dragon is amazing, Atarka, World Render is definitely a crazy beater, Dromoka, the Eternal is completely solid
and we could also run Utvara Hellkite, Imperial Hellkite, heck the list goes on lol
I really do wanna try this out..... lol
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
Dragonlord Atarka or Bogardan Hellkite
Atarka, costs one less and has trample.
Hellkite can damage players.
Flash is only mildly relevant in Mayael.
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Trample I think wins this one, at least for me. It's becoming SO relevant for my meta, but I think if your meta is a little more control oriented then the flash guy might take the cake.
And I'm totally down for, "Mayael, Mother of Dragons" lol
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
Modern:
DredgeVine
EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima
Standard:
ya I dont think I can drop my godsire or my angels but... I oculd probably drop a few others of mine for more dragons. Mother of dragons is definitely a real thing now
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
Dromoka: Pretty obvious include. I like that she has 7 toughness, as 6/x flying guys are everywhere in this format.
Atarka: Replaces Bogardan Hellkite in every non-dragon tribal list running it. In dragon tribal you just play both.
Surrak: If you are looking for cheap fatties to be able to cast out of hand, I think he's worth trying. Not in generic Mayael lists, though.
Arashin Sovereign: I like that this can put itself on top of your deck, effectively making it immune to traditional removal as long as you have an activation ready. For tribal lists only.
Harbinger of the Hunt: Fine in tribal lists--it's a Scourge of Kher Ridges that's more mana intensive.
Revamping the primer is something that's going to be difficult for me to do given my new work schedule. I may have to hand the primer off to someone else--would anyone be willing to take the reins in this event?
Emille, Seven-Sting Dancer Shalin Nariya
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
RAIKOU: I would love to try to take over the thread but I don't have the free time it takes to properly handle this as well. Just update when you can and dont stress about it. It's pretty obvious what cards we can use for this new set vs the ones that we can't use, so just take your time. This thread is not in a hurry to go anywhere lol
I played a 3 way game, Mayael vs Aurilia the Warleader vs my brother's Oros deck. Iona naming White, with Avacyn out alongside a lot of other goodies... I won that one obviously lol
Mayael is getting to the point to where she hardly every disappoints me. Even if I lose they are extremely close games, which I'm ok with. Can't wait to add the new goodies from the new set
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/608108-mayael-the-anima-and-her-brutal-friends-help
I am quite new in Mayael and EDH so I need some advice to get the deck working...
WUBEsper Dragon ControlWUB
GURTemur Aggro (retired)GUR
Modern Decks:
GGGMono Green StompyGGG
Commander Decks:
BBBDrana Mono Black Control (retired)BBB
GGGEzuri and His Army of ElvesGGG
RGWMayael the Anima and Her Brutal FriendsRGW
UBWydwen ControlUB
RRRAkroma's Furious Land DestructionRRR
GBRJundGBR
URWJeskai NahiriURW
My Legacy Deck:
URBGrixis DelverURB
My EDH Decks:
GJarad, Golgari Lich LordB
GRhys, The RedeemedW
RWArchangel AvacynRW
UWDragonlord OjutaiUW
I am new to EDH and this is my version of Mayael, so far it plays out pretty decently, any thoughts and ideas on improving the deck list?
Commander
Mayael the Anima
1x Angel of Serenity
1x Archetype of Endurance
1x Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1x Balefire Dragon
1x Baneslayer Angel
1x Blazing Archon
1x Bloom Tender
1x Dragonlord Atarka
1x Dragonlord Dromoka
1x Dromoka, the Eternal
1x Elvish Piper
1x Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1x Gruul Ragebeast
1x Hellkite Tyrant
1x Krosan Tusker
1x Scourge of the Throne
1x Seedborn Muse
1x Sigarda, Host of Herons
1x Soul of Theros
1x Spearbreaker Behemoth
1x Stalking Vengeance
1x Terastodon
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1x Ulvenwald Tracker
1x Vagrant Plowbeasts
1x Vigor
1x Woodfall Primus
1x Worldspine Wurm
1x Xenagos, God of Revels
1x Yosei, the Morning Star
1x Chaos Warp
1x Chord of Calling
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Krosan Grip
1x Path to Exile
1x Swords to Plowshares
Artifact (7)
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Quicksilver Amulet
1x Rings of Brighthearth
1x Scroll Rack
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Sol Ring
1x Swiftfoot Boots
Sorcery (10)
1x Austere Command
1x Farseek
1x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Nature's Lore
1x Reap and Sow
1x See the Unwritten
1x Skyshroud Claim
1x Terminus
1x Tooth and Nail
Enchantment (9)
1x Aura Shards
1x Defense of the Heart
1x Greater Good
1x Lurking Predators
1x Mirari's Wake
1x Mirri's Guile
1x Privileged Position
1x Survival of the Fittest
1x Sylvan Library
1x Canopy Vista
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Cinder Glade
1x Clifftop Retreat
1x Command Tower
1x Fire-Lit Thicket
5x Forest
1x Homeward Path
1x Jungle Shrine
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Mosswort Bridge
3x Mountain
3x Plains
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Rootbound Crag
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Stomping Ground
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Temple Garden
1x Temple of Abandon
1x Temple of the False God
1x Temple of Triumph
1x Verdant Catacombs
1x Winding Canyons
1x Windswept Heath
1x Wooded Bastion
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Yavimaya Hollow
Modern : Huh?
EDH : UBGW Thrasios / Tymna Combo UBGW // GRW Mayael Big Stuff GRW // GU Edric Timewalkers GU
Is this deck outdated.. Just curious as no one has posted in here since 2016?