Bontu's Monument was spoiled. Not as good as Purphuros but thought it should be mentioned. Hazoret's Monument can be good for ripping through your deck. The cost reduction isnt super good but it certainly doesn't hurt.
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Vizier of the Menagerie
3G
Mythic Rare
Creature – Naga Cleric
You may look at the top card of your library.
You may cast the top card of your library if it’s a creature card.
You may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast creature spells.
3/4
New banlist is up and Protean Hulk is unbanned. Thoughts? It can tutor any creature I'm pretty sure a small package for it could be included without muddling the deck so much.
I haven't tended to include many sacrifice effects in the deck, which Protean Hulk requires to be a win condition. I think it's a fine good stuff inclusion and some sort of protection against wrath effects, but I don't think it's worth shaping the deck in the direction of using it as a win condition on it's own.
That said, feel free to brainstorm Temur win conditions using Hulk.
Also, yes Vizier of the Menagerie is amazing for Animar. The colour fixing is almost the more valuable part of its effect.
Ok, as much as I like Birthing Pod, it just wasn't pulling its weight here due to lack of creatures I actually want to sac. I figure I'll make up for it with some draw power.
I say it seems bad because it is taking up a 3cmc non-creatures slot for a conditional mana source that can't even be used until the next turn at the earliest. Wood Elves is probably a much better card in this deck, because it contributes to the main game plan, gives mana immediately (sometimes free with 2 Animar counters), and can do all the things a normal creature can do. If you want an additional Cradle, you are better off playing Sylvan Scrying, Expedition Map, or Crop Rotation, as they cost less mana and use less conditions. Xenegos the Reveler gives a pseudo cradle that makes red mana immediately, and can even produce chump blockers. Even Ulvenwald Hydra gets a tapped cradle and is a creature, so it advances our own plan.
Also, in my experience with combo Animar, you don't really need loads of green mana. Most of the combo cards are red or blue mana.
I say it seems bad because it is taking up a 3cmc non-creatures slot for a conditional mana source that can't even be used until the next turn at the earliest. Wood Elves is probably a much better card in this deck, because it contributes to the main game plan, gives mana immediately (sometimes free with 2 Animar counters), and can do all the things a normal creature can do. If you want an additional Cradle, you are better off playing Sylvan Scrying, Expedition Map, or Crop Rotation, as they cost less mana and use less conditions. Xenegos the Reveler gives a pseudo cradle that makes red mana immediately, and can even produce chump blockers. Even Ulvenwald Hydra gets a tapped cradle and is a creature, so it advances our own plan.
Also, in my experience with combo Animar, you don't really need loads of green mana. Most of the combo cards are red or blue mana.
I agree about the noncreature cards in an animar build. I've found for fixing, Vizier of the Menagerie gets a lot of mileage.
I say it seems bad because it is taking up a 3cmc non-creatures slot for a conditional mana source that can't even be used until the next turn at the earliest. Wood Elves is probably a much better card in this deck, because it contributes to the main game plan, gives mana immediately (sometimes free with 2 Animar counters), and can do all the things a normal creature can do. If you want an additional Cradle, you are better off playing Sylvan Scrying, Expedition Map, or Crop Rotation, as they cost less mana and use less conditions. Xenegos the Reveler gives a pseudo cradle that makes red mana immediately, and can even produce chump blockers. Even Ulvenwald Hydra gets a tapped cradle and is a creature, so it advances our own plan.
Also, in my experience with combo Animar, you don't really need loads of green mana. Most of the combo cards are red or blue mana.
I agree about the noncreature cards in an animar build. I've found for fixing, Vizier of the Menagerie gets a lot of mileage.
GWUBAtraxa and Her Superfriends
WUB Oloro, the Life Drain Train
URG Animar, Soul of Elements
WBR Kaalia of the Vast
BWTeysa Karlov, Scion of Orzhov
R Purphoros, Goblins of Pain ($100 Budget Challenge)
U Talrand, Fun Police (Needs updating)
GWUBAtraxa and Her Superfriends
WUB Oloro, the Life Drain Train
URG Animar, Soul of Elements
WBR Kaalia of the Vast
BWTeysa Karlov, Scion of Orzhov
R Purphoros, Goblins of Pain ($100 Budget Challenge)
U Talrand, Fun Police (Needs updating)
Congrats. Imperial Recruiter is so good, it almost feels like cheating. Walking Ballista and Phyrexian Metamorph say hi.
WB Ayli, Eternal Recursion WB - GUPir and Toothy GU - WBR Mathas, Fiend SeekerWBR
Using Clone to copy Imperial Recruiter FEELS like cheating.
GWUBAtraxa and Her Superfriends
WUB Oloro, the Life Drain Train
URG Animar, Soul of Elements
WBR Kaalia of the Vast
BWTeysa Karlov, Scion of Orzhov
R Purphoros, Goblins of Pain ($100 Budget Challenge)
U Talrand, Fun Police (Needs updating)
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
Hazoret's Monument can be good for ripping through your deck. The cost reduction isnt super good but it certainly doesn't hurt.
GW Rhys the Redeemed EDH
RUGAnimar, Soul of Elements EDH
WBRAlesha, Who Smiles at Death EDH
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
If you're running a list like gelf's, loyalist doesn't have a spot in a combo deck.
However, if you're going more of an aggro route (*spoiler* I didn't look at your list) then loyalist might find a spot... but he's really fragile for a creature that has to attack. I run more of an aggro Animar list myself and wouldn't run loyalist here personally. (list here http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/758417-welcome-to-animars-creature-utopia ).
I run him in my Marchesa, the Black Rose list and he's an all-star there but it's entirely because of her constant recursion and his haste.
*edit* links not working yet.
Vizier of the Menagerie
3G
Mythic Rare
Creature – Naga Cleric
You may look at the top card of your library.
You may cast the top card of your library if it’s a creature card.
You may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast creature spells.
3/4
*2nd edit* /Drooling still
WB Ayli, Eternal Recursion WB - GUPir and Toothy GU - WBR Mathas, Fiend SeekerWBR
/Still Drooling
Can't wait to have this on the field at the same time as Oracle of Mul Daya.
I haven't tended to include many sacrifice effects in the deck, which Protean Hulk requires to be a win condition. I think it's a fine good stuff inclusion and some sort of protection against wrath effects, but I don't think it's worth shaping the deck in the direction of using it as a win condition on it's own.
That said, feel free to brainstorm Temur win conditions using Hulk.
Also, yes Vizier of the Menagerie is amazing for Animar. The colour fixing is almost the more valuable part of its effect.
1 Animar, Soul of Elements
Non Creature Spells: 12
1 Glimpse of Nature
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Hardened Scales
2 Sylvan Library
2 Earthcraft
2 Survival of the Fittest
2 Heroic Intervention
3 Cloudstone Curio
3 Food Chain
3 Song of the Dryads
3 Fabricate
3 Rhystic Study
Creatures: 53
1 Birds of Paradise
2 Cloud of Faeries
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Spellskite
2 Stratus Dancer
2 Den Protector
2 Bloom Tender
2 Sylvan Caryatid
2 Rattleclaw Mystic
2 Beastcaller Savant
2 Utopia Tree
3 Thassa, God of the Sea
3 Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
3 Shaman of Forgotten Ways
3 Somberwald Sage
3 Imperial Recruiter
3 Fierce Empath
3 Eternal Witness
4 Stunt Double
4 Clever Impersonator
4 Ogre Battledriver
4 Temur Sabertooth
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Solemn Simulacrum
4 Vizier of the Menagerie
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
4 Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
4 Ancestral Statue
4 Dack's Duplicate
5 Xenagos, God of Rebels
5 Seedborn Muse
5 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
5 Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
5 Urabrask, the Hidden
5 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
5 Peregrine Drake
5 Garruk's Packleader
6 Consecrated Sphinx
6 Primordial Sage
6 Soul of the Harvest
6 Prime Speaker Zagana
6 Brutalizer Exarch
6 Duplicant
6 Draining Whelk
6 Pathbreaker Ibex
7 Palinchron
7 Great Whale
8 Maelstrom Wanderer
10 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
11 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Lands: 34 (by count)
1 Arid Mesa
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Flooded Strand
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Bloodstained More
1 Windswept Heath
1 Polluted Delta
1 Command Tower
1 Ancient Ziggurat
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Mana Confluence
1 City of Brass
1 Stomping Ground
1 Breeding Pool
1 Steam Vents
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Kessig Wolf Run
4 Mountain
5 Forest
5 Island
Out: Birthing Pod
In: Rhystic Study
GWUBAtraxa and Her Superfriends
WUB Oloro, the Life Drain Train
URG Animar, Soul of Elements
WBR Kaalia of the Vast
BWTeysa Karlov, Scion of Orzhov
R Purphoros, Goblins of Pain ($100 Budget Challenge)
U Talrand, Fun Police (Needs updating)
Siren Stormtamer could be worth playing.
There, I fixed that typo for you.
Also, in my experience with combo Animar, you don't really need loads of green mana. Most of the combo cards are red or blue mana.
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
I also agree with the above.