"Some of the other guys dared me to go out, but I knew it weren't no ordinary giant giga-blasting blaze of unending flames that would scorch the whole world."
—Norin the Wary
Hey could you please organise the decklist at the end of your first post?
It's about how the deck is supposed to be like when it's finished, if so please do it as in Creature, Enchant, etc.
I used to have a Jund EDH, it was generally just goodstuff. All the good Jund card out there. Since the new General(s) came out I've decided to go Prossh, and your list is helping, but the end list is unorganised.
Ogre Battledriver and In the Web of War? Probably my favorite haste enablers in the game. They help put a lot of power on board, making Prossh 7/5 and all his Kobold tokens 2/1.
Surprise double strike with Wrecking Ogre is neat, too. Even just the six Kobolds from an initially cast Prossh bring him up to 11/5.
So, I've got a Prossh deck going on as well, what have you found to be the most effective in your own list?
Gravepact and Sadistic Hypnotist are probably some of the strongest cards in the deck surprisingly, if either goes unanswered you can pretty much win off of those alone. Purphoros, God of the Forge is also very effective at killing everyone else fairly quickly. I'm not sure whether I want to push the deck more towards the token theme or not, playing more goodstuff is fun for me.
What do you think about the changes? Is there anything you think should stay that got removed? Need an explanation to why something was cut? Let me know what you think.
Don't know if you've noticed this, but Woodfall Primus actually combo's with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Sac outlet for infinite non-creature wipe. Therefore, I'd choose it over Bane of Progress. I know you don't want a sac-deck, but I don't think there's too much more to do to the deck to make it good at it. Also, no Doubling Season effects?
I'm mostly working off of what I have available (I have a very small collection of mostly standard-recent cards). Yavimaya Dryad could work if I find one.
Did you mean Phyrexian Altar? I've considered looking at putting it in, I just need to find one. Also, Warstorm Surge doesn't do alot with 0/1 Kobolds, but something like Vicious Shadows could do more. Blood Artist wouldn't be too hard to grab and could add some extra lifegain that this deck can really use.
Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll actually try out Blood Artist within the next few days
If you're playing Artist, you might like his big brother, Falkenrath Noble. Cheaper cards are better in formats like standard, but this guy can fly and I feel like 4 cmc actually positions him better to drop when you already have some creatures. I remember feel bad days of playing Dega Aristocrats in standard where your turn two play and only creature is a 0/1.
Don't know if you've noticed this, but Woodfall Primus actually combo's with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Sac outlet for infinite non-creature wipe. Therefore, I'd choose it over Bane of Progress. I know you don't want a sac-deck, but I don't think there's too much more to do to the deck to make it good at it. Also, no Doubling Season effects?
I've been looking for a woodfall primus, just haven't found one yet. Bane of Progress is cheaper and will always hit all the things. I'd really prefer to run both, especially because there's an Uril deck in my meta that's been giving me trouble lately. Although it can hit my own things at times, its usually better to stop what everyone else is doing than lose.
I've considered adding Primal Vigor to the list, and parallel lives would be similar (Doubling Season is a bit expensive) but I feel like I don't really need them. If I'm not casting my general, they don't really do much on their own. I just don't have quite enough interactions to justify one of them in there. I could be wrong though.
Then I think you haven't experienced the true power of Prossh. You want to cast almost always that you're able to. And trust me, doubling tokens once can seal the deal.
I do cast him at (nearly) every opportunity, but I'm skeptical as to adding a card that just makes more tokens when I cast Prossh. I'd rather have more cards that can break all those tokens I'm making rather than just make more, but testing might show otherwise. Usually I've found that the tokens he makes normally are enough to hold out until I can recast him and make more, at which point I've usually found some kind of win condition.
I've thought about Vicious Shadows in here, what does everyone else think? It's expensive on mana, but it can end the game after a Prossh cast.
I was lucky and had a Doubling Season and Woodfall Primus from Modern Masters. I feel if you put in Blood Artist and Falkenrath Noble, as well as doublers having Purphoros, God of the Forge already, you could kill people by making and sac'ing tokens, which would also combo nicely with food chain.
Other things that Doubling season can do: Ultimate Planeswalkers on the turn they come out (at least in this deck's colours), Undying makes things really matter with Mikaeus, because when the creatures die, they basically come back +3/+3 to what they're printed as. There's probably stuff I'm missing, but it's stupid late at night and I'm going to sleep now.
It was really difficult to decide what to cut from this deck, so I mostly went off of things that had been under performing lately BUT could be used in my other EDH, Roon of the Hidden Realm. I added Erebos to the deck mainly because one of my friends plays Oloro, Ageless Ascetic, so the can't gain life clause pretty much shuts down most of his shenanigans, while also providing me a source of extra card draw and an indestructible creature from time to time.
What do you think about the changes? Did I screw up somewhere? Let me know what you think
Necropotence is a really nice draw source if you're digging for combo or more answers, and adds alot to your devotion to black in case you have Erebos, God of the Dead. Ogre Battledriver is currently being tested to see how well it will do.
Let me know if you have any questions about this cut. I mostly needed Barter in Blood to help fight an Uril deck in my meta that's been hard to deal with.
With the very sad banning of Sylvan Primordial, I needed something to replace it for now, and another field wipe should be good. Hope you enjoy the deck.
If you want an alpha strike i recommend anger for haste and a surivial pitch target. Nothing not slamming down prossh with haste and beastmaster's acension. Thats amazing. Simply... amazing
Finally updated the decklist after a very long time. Many changes that I can't remember, but the current list is up in this thread. Let me know what you think.
P.S: I will be getting Life's Legacy soon that will also be added to the list accordingly. Any ideas on what might be cut in place of it?
Have you considered Rain of Gore? It will demolish a Oloro, Ageless Ascetic deck or well any life gain deck in general. Blood Artist type effects will hurt you if you run it, but you'll have enough sac outlets to make it relatively inconsequential.
Although having a backup infinite combo can be nice, it really never saw play in my deck. They were almost always dead draws in an opening hand or later on because they really didn't do anything for the deck on their own. I still own the cards though, and won't be getting rid of them just in case I want to put them back in. Maybe when I find a Tooth and Nail, they will be worth running, but until then they're clogging up space for other, better cards.
So, I've got a Prossh deck going on as well, what have you found to be the most effective in your own list?
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It's about how the deck is supposed to be like when it's finished, if so please do it as in Creature, Enchant, etc.
I used to have a Jund EDH, it was generally just goodstuff. All the good Jund card out there. Since the new General(s) came out I've decided to go Prossh, and your list is helping, but the end list is unorganised.
Surprise double strike with Wrecking Ogre is neat, too. Even just the six Kobolds from an initially cast Prossh bring him up to 11/5.
Gravepact and Sadistic Hypnotist are probably some of the strongest cards in the deck surprisingly, if either goes unanswered you can pretty much win off of those alone. Purphoros, God of the Forge is also very effective at killing everyone else fairly quickly. I'm not sure whether I want to push the deck more towards the token theme or not, playing more goodstuff is fun for me.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
Here's what I added:
+Avenger of Zendikar, Bane of Progress, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician, Farhaven Elf, Phyrexian Delver, Fecundity, Bloodstained Mire (Gold Bordered), Kher Keep, Temple of the False God
-Reaper from the Abyss, Terastodon, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Garruk Relentless, Farseek, Shriekmaw, Golgari Rot Farm, Evolving Wilds, Forest
What do you think about the changes? Is there anything you think should stay that got removed? Need an explanation to why something was cut? Let me know what you think.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
If you're playing Artist, you might like his big brother, Falkenrath Noble. Cheaper cards are better in formats like standard, but this guy can fly and I feel like 4 cmc actually positions him better to drop when you already have some creatures. I remember feel bad days of playing Dega Aristocrats in standard where your turn two play and only creature is a 0/1.
Skirsdag High Priest is another fun card, and easier to bring online in EDH
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I've been looking for a woodfall primus, just haven't found one yet. Bane of Progress is cheaper and will always hit all the things. I'd really prefer to run both, especially because there's an Uril deck in my meta that's been giving me trouble lately. Although it can hit my own things at times, its usually better to stop what everyone else is doing than lose.
I've considered adding Primal Vigor to the list, and parallel lives would be similar (Doubling Season is a bit expensive) but I feel like I don't really need them. If I'm not casting my general, they don't really do much on their own. I just don't have quite enough interactions to justify one of them in there. I could be wrong though.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
I do cast him at (nearly) every opportunity, but I'm skeptical as to adding a card that just makes more tokens when I cast Prossh. I'd rather have more cards that can break all those tokens I'm making rather than just make more, but testing might show otherwise. Usually I've found that the tokens he makes normally are enough to hold out until I can recast him and make more, at which point I've usually found some kind of win condition.
I've thought about Vicious Shadows in here, what does everyone else think? It's expensive on mana, but it can end the game after a Prossh cast.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
Other things that Doubling season can do: Ultimate Planeswalkers on the turn they come out (at least in this deck's colours), Undying makes things really matter with Mikaeus, because when the creatures die, they basically come back +3/+3 to what they're printed as. There's probably stuff I'm missing, but it's stupid late at night and I'm going to sleep now.
+Demonic Tutor, Survival of the Fittest (gold bordered), Squee, Goblin Nabob, Erebos, God of the Dead
-Slaughter Pact, Fauna Shaman, Gilded Lotus, Mimic Vat
It was really difficult to decide what to cut from this deck, so I mostly went off of things that had been under performing lately BUT could be used in my other EDH, Roon of the Hidden Realm. I added Erebos to the deck mainly because one of my friends plays Oloro, Ageless Ascetic, so the can't gain life clause pretty much shuts down most of his shenanigans, while also providing me a source of extra card draw and an indestructible creature from time to time.
What do you think about the changes? Did I screw up somewhere? Let me know what you think
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
Sig by DarkNightCavalier @ Heroes of the Plane Studios
+Necropotence, +Ogre Batlledriver
-Harmonize, -Sepulchral Primordial
Necropotence is a really nice draw source if you're digging for combo or more answers, and adds alot to your devotion to black in case you have Erebos, God of the Dead. Ogre Battledriver is currently being tested to see how well it will do.
What do you think about these choices?
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
+Barter in Blood
-Hua Tuo, Honored Physician
Let me know if you have any questions about this cut. I mostly needed Barter in Blood to help fight an Uril deck in my meta that's been hard to deal with.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
+Life's Finale
-Sylvan Primordial
With the very sad banning of Sylvan Primordial, I needed something to replace it for now, and another field wipe should be good. Hope you enjoy the deck.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=499393 My Sales Thread
P.S: I will be getting Life's Legacy soon that will also be added to the list accordingly. Any ideas on what might be cut in place of it?
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG
+Chord of Calling, Increasing Ambition
-Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Triskelion
Although having a backup infinite combo can be nice, it really never saw play in my deck. They were almost always dead draws in an opening hand or later on because they really didn't do anything for the deck on their own. I still own the cards though, and won't be getting rid of them just in case I want to put them back in. Maybe when I find a Tooth and Nail, they will be worth running, but until then they're clogging up space for other, better cards.
Special thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the avatar and Inkfox Aesthetics for the sig.
Vaevictus Asmadi, Creator of [The Spirit of EDH]
EDH Decks
BRGProssh, the Chump-Block DragonBRG
BRGVaevictis Asmadi-Hoarder of ManaBRG