If i played that deck at our store, people would jump me after the edh session or they
wouldn't play with me :P. I had about 3-4 of those stax pieces, and people complained, ALOT.
Yeah I know, I still get moans and groans everytime Karn comes out, but thats the way I like to play. In a format of power like EDH Stax effects and Counterspells carry extra weight. I always struggle though since I get hatted out pretty early, so it keeps the game even...until I hit critical mass again.
The scepter I'm definitely considering, its just hard to find a slot, but ward of bones I don't like so much. All my lands do something, so blood moon cuts off quite a bit of my resources. I don't play enchantments, and ward of bones doesn't stop the card from being played if they have no enchantments in play, it seems unimportant, but it happens quite a bit. Same thing goes for Stony Silence, or Bane of Progress.
There hasn't been much change in the decklist lately - probably because there hasn't been many new candidates for inclusion.
Coercive Portal seems very risky for this type of deck - it seems like the first vote to come around would nuke all my junk.
I've been trying out Mox Opal, Jhoira's Toolbox and a few other options to lower my aCMC - including the addition of a chaos orb as a proxy for O-Stone (and letting the table decide if it's an OStone or Orb when I cast it).
It's still largely the same deck - no major changes have happened in some time.
Hopefully M15 and Khans of Tarkhir give us some great new toys.
Thanks for thinking of me! This guy is definitely going to immediately be incorporated into Karn. And my Derevi Enchantress. And any deck that can reasonably spare that kinda mana.
I was planning to wait until we saw the whole set before posting - but I am really excited for this.
I really love this card,long time since i was so hype over a card.
I mean sure it WILL see play in every freaking deck, but i will be able to
play it in MY KARN DECK !!! :DDD. I was waiting for an awesome card like this one.
It even saves us from boardwipes if we got the mana for it! :DDD
I almost dropped a tear when i saw it. Yeah, i was that hype and happy for it.
I first thought since its Soul of New Phyrexia, that it would be colorless with blackmana for activating
the ability. I think im gonna start collecting this card :D.
It's good - but it can still get Krosan Grip-ed or exiled (and you know people will overreact and do so). I also feel like this is a card that can turn the whole table (sometimes) unjustifiably against you - you won't just need to have 5 back. You'll need 10 or 15 - or more.
Also, on a side note - this is going to make Prophet of Kruphix just that much more of a beast. I feel like Prophet already isn't healthy for our local games.
I have to agree, when the bant deck resolves a prophet i just starts to sigh, because i either managed to save a path or a plow for it, since NOBODY does it, or else they're taking 1 extra turn each turn that is not his/her, and that's just flatout broken/annoying. I had a roon deck , i HAD one, because prophet took over the game coupled with 1-3 other creatures. I don't think there are other cards really that are quite degenerate and easy to acquire/play early on. One time we obliterated a dudes board (a bant player). He had 3 lands and a prophet out, we let him survive with a prophet in play, guess what? he manages to win, and i warned everybody about it.
^Agree with you Burntgerbil.
We'll see how many people that will play with it, i know i will.
Soul of New Phyrexia looks decent, I agree with burntgerbil that it'll probably draw too much hate, and is pretty expensive, but I'm much more excited about Perilous vault! All the board wipes!
Perilous vault seems ok. It seems a little more palatable with a sac outlet on the field. It's sort of the nuclear option for when you can't deal with threats.
I agree about the set.
I play other great CCG's and it seems like wizards is following after them by simply printing good, fun cards instead of bad limited filler.
Yeah I've been thinking about the vault, I don't think its gonna make my list, considering how much I actually play out of the grave yard, it just doesn't give me that warm and fuzzy feeling the other board wipe options do. I mean all is dust is just silly in this deck, Nev's disk is a combo piece, and O-stone I don't even like to use that often because if I pop it its because I'm behind, but at least I still have limited access to the pieces in the grave. I feel like I need another board wipe, but at the cost of exiling everything in play its just not fitting as well as I thought.
It's been a bit since I've posted a real decklist update - and that's because there hasn't really been that much new juice to try out. After trying some things in Conspiracy, I'm hoping to get the cards I need from M15 ASAP so I can start testing them out shortly. I've been looking to reduce my average CMC - and it looks like Deal Broker and some more of these new cards might assist with that. I hope to have good updates for everyone soon.
I had a deck of robots and I couldn't handle the lack of spells, sorry guys it became Jin & Juice and it is devastating. Thanks for the original inspiration of the list though. Keep fighting the good robot fight.
Yeah, I have run it and chaos orb in my deck for more than a year now - playtesting metalworker to see how egregious it is and with chaos orb as a working proxy for oblivion stone ( or perilous vault now) and let the table decide when the orb is played if they want to let the real chaos orb that is a proxy for another card just be the original chaos orb or not
metalworker's been "being tested" in my list for maybe two years at this point. There are scarce few situations where I have won the game with him when I couldn't have with another single card.
In over a year of (continuous but not constant) play, I've resolved him only 3 times earlier than 3rd turn. According to my notes, one of those times I had mostly lands in my hand. The two other times I did have a hand with many artifacts, but nothing I played while he was out broke the game wide open. The overwhelming majority of times he's won the game for me, it's not on-the-spot. It's usually because he powers out some kind of value/recursion engine that I use for a few turns.
If he was unbanned in EDH, he'd be great in the deck, and from my testing and opinion he'd be a good candidate to consider making legal.
Those are some pretty good notes, I really just wanted another way to hit infinite mana in the deck, but after looking at him again, there is just soo much value there. I agree that he should be unbanned, a one toughness body that you have to build around isn't any where close to Prophet of Kruprix. What were they thinking...two broken abilities, on a creature that shares the two best colors in EDH... Sorry for the bitterness there.
Its understandable. There's a few infinite mana combos in my build:
Voltaic Construct +3 artifact
Rings + Basalt
Rings + Voltaic Key + Candlabra + Scorched Ruin ( I think)
Salvaging Station + Mana Crypt + Karn
Myr battlesphere + Nim Deathmantle + Krark-clan Ironworks
Are the few I can recall off my head.
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If i played that deck at our store, people would jump me after the edh session or they
wouldn't play with me :P. I had about 3-4 of those stax pieces, and people complained, ALOT.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
RIP Karn EDH
RIP Karn EDH
Coercive Portal seems very risky for this type of deck - it seems like the first vote to come around would nuke all my junk.
I've been trying out Mox Opal, Jhoira's Toolbox and a few other options to lower my aCMC - including the addition of a chaos orb as a proxy for O-Stone (and letting the table decide if it's an OStone or Orb when I cast it).
It's still largely the same deck - no major changes have happened in some time.
Hopefully M15 and Khans of Tarkhir give us some great new toys.
I almost creamed myself hahaha.
I love it!!!
http://mythicspoiler.com/m15/cards/soulofnewphyrexia.jpg
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
My Trade Thread
I was planning to wait until we saw the whole set before posting - but I am really excited for this.
I mean sure it WILL see play in every freaking deck, but i will be able to
play it in MY KARN DECK !!! :DDD. I was waiting for an awesome card like this one.
It even saves us from boardwipes if we got the mana for it! :DDD
I almost dropped a tear when i saw it. Yeah, i was that hype and happy for it.
I first thought since its Soul of New Phyrexia, that it would be colorless with blackmana for activating
the ability. I think im gonna start collecting this card :D.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Also, on a side note - this is going to make Prophet of Kruphix just that much more of a beast. I feel like Prophet already isn't healthy for our local games.
^Agree with you Burntgerbil.
We'll see how many people that will play with it, i know i will.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
http://mythicspoiler.com/m15/cards/perilousvault.html
A fixed Nev Disk! Better/worse. Ok it isn't recurrable but exile effects in colorless ain't bad! : ).
http://mythicspoiler.com/m15/cards/obeliskofurd.html
I can now buff my tribal Golem deck!
Im really starting to like m15, it's just packed with a bunch of nice cards.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
RIP Karn EDH
I agree about the set.
I play other great CCG's and it seems like wizards is following after them by simply printing good, fun cards instead of bad limited filler.
RIP Karn EDH
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
RIP Karn EDH
In over a year of (continuous but not constant) play, I've resolved him only 3 times earlier than 3rd turn. According to my notes, one of those times I had mostly lands in my hand. The two other times I did have a hand with many artifacts, but nothing I played while he was out broke the game wide open. The overwhelming majority of times he's won the game for me, it's not on-the-spot. It's usually because he powers out some kind of value/recursion engine that I use for a few turns.
If he was unbanned in EDH, he'd be great in the deck, and from my testing and opinion he'd be a good candidate to consider making legal.
RIP Karn EDH
Voltaic Construct +3 artifact
Rings + Basalt
Rings + Voltaic Key + Candlabra + Scorched Ruin ( I think)
Salvaging Station + Mana Crypt + Karn
Myr battlesphere + Nim Deathmantle + Krark-clan Ironworks
Are the few I can recall off my head.