I've always personally dodged the Gatekeeper on the basis that he is very risky. You need a second creature to sac (which you don't always have handy), and he can backfire if Shirei has Greaves or something on him if opponents use their spot removal on something else instead and force you to sac Shirei.
Of the DKA cards so far only Black Cat seems to merit some investigation for Shirei...thoughts?
--Evil
Same as Ravenous Rats/Noxious Toad/etc. Repeatable instant-speed discard is too mean. It has, however, reminded me about the explicitly super-mean Shirei list I was working on, which I should get out shortly.
I forgot about Ashen-Skin Zubera wonder if I have a spot. I may just ditch my deathtouch guys for more discard
Words of Waste is really intriguing seems like a great lock down especially with a draw mechanism out, but drawing is supper important for this deck especially since it is such a low curve.
In my experience, Ashen-Skin Zubera is really good, but it pisses people off. (With the Shirei engine) It can make people discard their draw every turn, which is very powerful when they have an empty hand.
Awesome! Did you make this just for the hell of it? I'd feel bad using it if it were a commission for someone else is all. Otherwise, hell yes, free banner.
Agreed. That and Increasing Ambition are my two DKA includes for this deck. In fact, they've been sitting on my mouse pad for the last two weeks. I've just been too busy with Mikaeus to bother about them.
Regarding the cutthroat list: I've been working on it in my lunch breaks at work and keep forgetting to send it home. It's 80% done.
This deck looks damn brilliant, really looking foward to the update. In the mean time Skirsdag High priest - too weak or spot on for this deck?
I think he can be pretty insane in this deck. With Shirei online, two other creatures and a sac outlet you are making a 5/5 demon token on every players turn. None of which is by no means difficult to accomplish.
I think he can be pretty insane in this deck. With Shirei online, two other creatures and a sac outlet you are making a 5/5 demon token on every players turn. None of which is by no means difficult to accomplish.
not every players turn unless you have a way to give it haste. I personally have it in my Shirei deck. If you get a Thornbite Staff on it everything goes crazy with a sac outlet and just a few dudes.
I've always personally dodged the Gatekeeper on the basis that he is very risky. You need a second creature to sac (which you don't always have handy), and he can backfire if Shirei has Greaves or something on him if opponents use their spot removal on something else instead and force you to sac Shirei.
--Evil
Same as Ravenous Rats/Noxious Toad/etc. Repeatable instant-speed discard is too mean. It has, however, reminded me about the explicitly super-mean Shirei list I was working on, which I should get out shortly.
Scavenger Drake & Abyssal Gatekeeper are on my list
Khabal Ghoul is nice but a pricier card that can be accomplished with a few other lesser cards
Gatekeeper does scare me a bit. My meta game varies it has some great players and some not so great. I'd like me deck to be the best it can be though, so I have been looking into more discard cards like Ravenous Rats, Noxious Toad, Black Cat, Augur of Skulls, Corrupt Court Official, Chimney Imp
added:
Ravenous Rats, Noxious Toad, Black Cat, Mind Slash, Black Sun's Zenith, Necroskitter, Plagued Rusalka
Removed:
Scavenger Drake, Abyssal Gatekeeper, Carrion Feeder, Stinkweed Imp, Keeper of the Dead (Not sure I should have), Wall of Corpses, Consume Spirit.
Looking to make room for:
Beseech the queen, Demonic Tutor, Go for the Throat (maybe)
Thoughts:
Not to sure how good Thornbite Staff will be removing Keeper of the Dead adds to that thought which I'm not sure I should have.
Also should Deserted Temple & Black Market have a place in here?
Glissa, the Traitor, Ulasht, the Hate Seed, The Mimeoplasm
A Skirsdag Flayer too
I know this card might not quite fit with the deck, but Temporal Extortion seems pretty fantastic to me.
Words of Waste is really intriguing seems like a great lock down especially with a draw mechanism out, but drawing is supper important for this deck especially since it is such a low curve.
IN:
Ashen-Skin Zubera
Demonic Tutor
Deserted Temple
Chimney Imp
OUT:
Arena
Basilisk Collar
Giant Scorpion
Typhoid Rats
Because I was bored.
I was thinking of adding the text "Rise to your knees.", but decided against it.
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"Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead" -Jaya Ballard, task mage
~Shirei
Glissa, the Traitor, Ulasht, the Hate Seed, The Mimeoplasm
That's a good one haha
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Probably would run it if it didn't have to tap. Clunky and expensive, though. I'd rather spend four mana on other sac effects most of the time.
Awesome! Did you make this just for the hell of it? I'd feel bad using it if it were a commission for someone else is all. Otherwise, hell yes, free banner.
Agreed. That and Increasing Ambition are my two DKA includes for this deck. In fact, they've been sitting on my mouse pad for the last two weeks. I've just been too busy with Mikaeus to bother about them.
Regarding the cutthroat list: I've been working on it in my lunch breaks at work and keep forgetting to send it home. It's 80% done.
and Increasing Ambition is pretty interesting. It looks as though it would be better then Diabolic Tutor and possibly Beseech the Queen for the potential late game lock down.
I think he can be pretty insane in this deck. With Shirei online, two other creatures and a sac outlet you are making a 5/5 demon token on every players turn. None of which is by no means difficult to accomplish.
not every players turn unless you have a way to give it haste. I personally have it in my Shirei deck. If you get a Thornbite Staff on it everything goes crazy with a sac outlet and just a few dudes.
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