Here is my first EDH deck. First off, I would like to thank Seth Dracovitch and Kuvien and their Norn list. My knowledge is limited mainly to Zendikar forward and some Ice Age stuff and they both provided a good base to work from.
Now to the basics of the deck! I tried keeping it on the cheaper side and went for tokens buffed by enchantments. There are a couple more expensive cards that I want to add when the budget allows it and are listed in my wish list below. Also below is a list of cards I'm currently considering. Any thoughts, comments or suggestions are welcome!
Decree of Justice: The 102 card is a good description. Keeping it here just in case.
Well of Lost Dreams: I like the draw, and I think there is decent life gain in the right situations. Not sure of the consistency, but I'm going to test it.
Glad to be of help! I'll be updating my Norn list eventually, as it is a deck I still have built and use. It's really lost a lot of the flavor, but it can dominate a table if Norn stays. Definite MVP is Darksteel Plate. So many times players don't have an answer to it, and most wave it off as a subpar card. I can't count the number of removal spells it's protected Elesh from, and it's been worth every equip.
I see Land Tax isn't in your list either. It's kinda pricey, but it is really strong to grab 3 lands off of a single card, and epic strong in mono-white. I highly recommend finding one if you can.
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Oh, that is nice! Biggest threat in my playgroup is a good Omnath, Locus of Mana deck and Land Tax sure would help to keep pace. Not that expensive either, BONUS!
Scroll Rack with Land Tax is one of the best draw engines Mono-White has.
Expedition Map can go get Urborg, other than that, I can't think of anything to make that "combo" more consistent.
I am honestly not that big of a fan of Extraplanar Lens, but it tends to die quickly in my meta.
Of the cards in your "not sold on" list. Only Decree and Well are really playable and I didn't run either in my Norn list and don't run them in my Darien list. Decree seems to be card 102 for the deck with Well being a bit further down.
I wouldn't take out Wrath of God for the Mass Calcify, loosing the "cannot be regenerated" clause seems bad, I would swap out the Phyrexian Rebirth.
The "Sac a Pegasus or sac this" on Sacred Mesa makes it worse than Mobilization. I would not make that swap.
Oh crap, glad to see some comments still going on this! I personally forgot about it for a bit. I'm going to try and sit down and update my original post over the weekend.
I want to fit both of these cards in there. Geist-Honored Monk gives me another target for Asnod's Alter and Nim Deathmantle. I'm not sure what to cut for her, but she will end up in there.
Currently thinking that Increasing Devotion is a great replacement for Conqueror's Pledge. I always seem to hold Pledge for the kicker cast, but that shouldn't be an issue with Devotion!
Scroll Rack with Land Tax is one of the best draw engines Mono-White has.
Expedition Map can go get Urborg, other than that, I can't think of anything to make that "combo" more consistent.
I am honestly not that big of a fan of Extraplanar Lens, but it tends to die quickly in my meta.
Of the cards in your "not sold on" list. Only Decree and Well are really playable and I didn't run either in my Norn list and don't run them in my Darien list. Decree seems to be card 102 for the deck with Well being a bit further down.
I wouldn't take out Wrath of God for the Mass Calcify, loosing the "cannot be regenerated" clause seems bad, I would swap out the Phyrexian Rebirth.
The "Sac a Pegasus or sac this" on Sacred Mesa makes it worse than Mobilization. I would not make that swap.
Thats My Two Cents.
Scroll Rack is nice, but so is the price tag. That will go on the wish list.
I'm giving up on the Urborg/Bell combo. Just not a great fit for this deck. I have some other combos in the works that the individual pieces can have an impact by themselves.
Unless I'm really dumb or desperate, Extraplanar Lens stays on the table for awhile. There are other artifacts/enchantments that seems to scare my play group more.
I've learned my lesson on Wrath of God and that will be staying in.
White has been popping up more, so I think Mass Calcify will stay on the bench for now.
As the deck is now, I completely agree on Sacred Mesa as the deck stands now. I have been looking into adding Avacyn, Angel of Hope to the deck list and even the general. Mesa might be less of a risk with her.
My bad. I was thinking of it going in my own B/W tokens deck which runs both colors.
EDIT: What do you think about adding Humility? Your deck has enough "anthem" effect enchantments to benefit from it.
Humility crossed my radar when creating the original list. At the very least it is going on the considering list, but I haven't looked into what it would replace yet.
Now to the basics of the deck! I tried keeping it on the cheaper side and went for tokens buffed by enchantments. There are a couple more expensive cards that I want to add when the budget allows it and are listed in my wish list below. Also below is a list of cards I'm currently considering. Any thoughts, comments or suggestions are welcome!
Creatures 14
2 Graven Dominator
3 Emeria Angel
4 Captain of the Watch
5 Cloudgoat Ranger
6 Knight-Captain of Eos
7 Auriok Champion
8 Oathsworn Giant
9 Windborn Muse
10 Crovax, Ascendant Hero
11 Suture Priest
12 Soul Warden
13 Soul's Attendant
14 Hero of Bladehold
15 Sun Titan
16 Triskelavus
Planeswalkers 3
17 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
18 Elspeth Tirel
19 Ajani Goldmane
Artifacts 10
20 Sol Ring
21 Lightning Greaves
22 Extraplanar Lens
23 Gauntlet of Power
24 Ashnod's Altar
25 Elixir of Immortality
26 Nim Deahtmanle
27 Darksteel Plate
28 Norn's Annex
29 Caged Sun
30 Marshal's Anthem
31 Crusade
32 Glorious Anthem
33 Ghostly Prison
34 Aurification
35 Delaying Shield
36 Leyline of the Meek
37 Mobilization
38 Greater Auramancy
39 Oblivion Ring
40 Honor of the Pure
41 Luminarch Ascension
42 Leyline of Sanctity
43 Phyrexian Unlife
44 Journey to Nowhere
45 True Conviction
46 Cathars' Crusade
47 Land Tax
Instants 8
48 Enlightened Tutor
49 Midnight Haunting
50 Return to Dust
51 Swords to Plowshares
52 Condemn
53 Brave the Elements
54 White Sun's Zenith
55 Idyllic Tutor
56 Increasing Devotion
57 Hour of Reckoning
58 Kirtar's Wrath
59 Martial Coup
60 Nomads' Assembly
61 Gaze of Justice
62 Wrath of God
63 Phyrexian Rebirth
Lands 37
64 New Benalia
65 Mistveil Plains
66 Strip Mine
67 Tectonic Edge
68 Dust Bowl
69 Eiganjo Castle
70 Kor Haven
71 Kjeldoran Outpost
72 Karoo
73 Ghost Quarter
74 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
26 Snow-Covered Plains
Change Log:
5-1-12
In: Cathars' Crusade and Triskelavus
Out: Raise the Alarm and Cenn's Enlistment
Crusade+Triskelavus+Ashnod's=Dead Table. Crusade can create blowouts by itself. Triskelavus does depend on Crusade for full affect but isn't completely awful by itself.
5-31-12
In: Increasing Devotion and Land Tax
Out Conqueror's Pledge and Spectral Procession
3 more mana and creatures form Increasing Devotion but the cost can be split up! Land Tax is awesome, but not sure if I took the right card out.
Wish list:
Considering:
Cards going in:
Last Update: 5.31.12
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WNorn Tokens
I see Land Tax isn't in your list either. It's kinda pricey, but it is really strong to grab 3 lands off of a single card, and epic strong in mono-white. I highly recommend finding one if you can.
-C.S. Lewis
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Obzedat - Still Alive
Retired - Nicol Bolas
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EDH
WNorn Tokens
Check the color identity, there.
R Citizen Cane (Feldon of the Third Path)
Also, Increasing Devotion seems like a nice fit.
Like the deck, good luck.
Expedition Map can go get Urborg, other than that, I can't think of anything to make that "combo" more consistent.
I am honestly not that big of a fan of Extraplanar Lens, but it tends to die quickly in my meta.
Of the cards in your "not sold on" list. Only Decree and Well are really playable and I didn't run either in my Norn list and don't run them in my Darien list. Decree seems to be card 102 for the deck with Well being a bit further down.
I wouldn't take out Wrath of God for the Mass Calcify, loosing the "cannot be regenerated" clause seems bad, I would swap out the Phyrexian Rebirth.
The "Sac a Pegasus or sac this" on Sacred Mesa makes it worse than Mobilization. I would not make that swap.
Thats My Two Cents.
Talrand, Sky Summoner
Darien and his Loyal Army
Marrow-Gnawer tribal rats
Elesh Norn / Sharuum / Damia - Retired
He can't add lingering souls, part of it's color identity is black. Elesh Norn = mono white.
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BRKaervek the Merciless
RGRadha, Heir to Keld
My bad. I was thinking of it going in my own B/W tokens deck which runs both colors.
EDIT: What do you think about adding Humility? Your deck has enough "anthem" effect enchantments to benefit from it.
I want to fit both of these cards in there. Geist-Honored Monk gives me another target for Asnod's Alter and Nim Deathmantle. I'm not sure what to cut for her, but she will end up in there.
Currently thinking that Increasing Devotion is a great replacement for Conqueror's Pledge. I always seem to hold Pledge for the kicker cast, but that shouldn't be an issue with Devotion!
Scroll Rack is nice, but so is the price tag. That will go on the wish list.
I'm giving up on the Urborg/Bell combo. Just not a great fit for this deck. I have some other combos in the works that the individual pieces can have an impact by themselves.
Unless I'm really dumb or desperate, Extraplanar Lens stays on the table for awhile. There are other artifacts/enchantments that seems to scare my play group more.
I've learned my lesson on Wrath of God and that will be staying in.
White has been popping up more, so I think Mass Calcify will stay on the bench for now.
As the deck is now, I completely agree on Sacred Mesa as the deck stands now. I have been looking into adding Avacyn, Angel of Hope to the deck list and even the general. Mesa might be less of a risk with her.
Humility crossed my radar when creating the original list. At the very least it is going on the considering list, but I haven't looked into what it would replace yet.
Standard
W.I.P.
EDH
WNorn Tokens