Here is the deck that I've been tweaking with for a while. I keep finding that the more I try and put good cards into this deck... the more the deck seems to just stumble and fall (while I play against myself with my Drana deck). I guess that's because this deck doesn't usually see much other play than that. Though I did design this for multiplayer... I don't see a whole lot of it, so I guess I really just lack testing.
So it's obviously a Mono White Control deck... I just wonder if there's anything besides the Armageddon route to take with her. Also, if anyone knows, how would I get this deck put into the database? I just want to see more than 1 Linvala deck there. ^^;
Since Linvala, Keeper of Silence is your general, you should try the Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth(which is fine in mono-W because it has no mana symbols on it) + Kormus Bell combo with her. It's pretty awesome. Kind of DBish, but still cool nonetheless.
Since Linvala, Keeper of Silence is your general, you should try the Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth(which is fine in mono-W because it has no mana symbols on it) + Kormus Bell combo with her. It's pretty awesome. Kind of DBish, but still cool nonetheless.
I wish I could, but besides Enlightened Tutor and maybe Planar Portal, I don't know a good way to fetch Kormus Bell. For Urborg I have Expedition Map and Weathered Wayfarer already in the deck, so another non-basic wouldn't hurt. I also wouldn't know what to take out. I know I'm definitely adding one of the new Angels from SOM to the deck, and I'll probaby have to take out Yosei for it. But I am not sure what works and what doesn't since I don't have a regular play group.
Your mana curve is exceptionally high and you have no real acceleration. Play more artifact mana sources. Thawing Glaciers is good too, though it's not acceleration.
The problem with defining [EDH] by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Looking at your list, Auriok Salvagers can recur Pithing Needle, Expedition Map, Sol Ring and Skullclamp. Also Top if you run it. Also Phyrexian Furnace since a lot of times there's only 1 or 2 cards in a GY that are true problems.
Maze of Ith > Mystifying Maze. It's too mana intensive and is a bombo with ETB creatures your opponents control.
Angelic Renewal fits the theme, is tech, and it a bomb with Sun Titan. I think Crucible of Worlds needs to be in here somewhere. It's really good with Fetches, Armageddon, Cataclysm, and can bring back busted lands like Emeria which will get a lot of hate. Also I never found Jitte all that good in a MP game.
So anyway enough with my ranting. Good luck!
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@ Darklich528 If I could figure out what to take out for the Gauntlet of Power and Scroll Rack, I'd probably do it. Also, I don't own a Maze of Ith, Sensei's Divining Top or Crucible of Worlds... Otherwise, I'd have likely put them in here already. I need to go look for my Aura of Silence though... I'd probably take out the disenchant for it...
@Gaka What should I take out for the Sunblast Angel then?
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I have taken out some of the less spectacular and more expensive angels to put in some of the newer/cheaper ones.
-Platinum Angel, -Angelic Arbiter, -Battlgrace Angel <=just seem sub-par and over-costed... especially since I don't really have a way to protect the Platinum Angel...
+Sunblast Angel, +Indomitable Archangel, +Serra Avenger
Equipment upgrades:
-Skullclamp, -Sword of Vengeance, -Loxodon Warhammer
+Argentum Armor (for the lulz and will likely be taken out for the last Sword), +Sword of Body and Mind, + Sword of Feast and Famine
Land upgrades:
-3 Plains
+Mistveil Plains, +Kjeldoran Outpost, +Tectonic Edge
If you need acceleration, consider the Extraplanar Lens / Gauntlet of Power / 30+ Plains strategy (keeping the dopey good lands like Kor Haven, Emeria). If you're hardcore about it, subbing snow-covered plains for regular plains would keep the Extraplanar Lens's effect all to yourself. I have a mono-white soldier deck that just explodes with a mana-doubling effect. Plus, both can be tutored for with Enlightened Tutor.
Also, it's been mentioned but you have WAY too many wrath effects. Check out the recent mana stones thread and the all-inclusive mana stones thread for some good acceleration you should be playing in those slots so you can actually cast your angels.
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Land
27 Plains
1 Dust Bowl
1 Kor Haven
1 Kjeldoran Outpost
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Mystifying Maze
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Urza's Factory
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Temple of the False God
1 Arid Mesa
1 Flooded Strand
1 Marsh Flats
1 Windswept Heath
Creatures
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Reya Dawnbringer
1 Serra Avenger
1 Indomitable Archangel
1 Radiant, Archangel
1 Deathless Angel
1 Twilight Shepherd
1 Serra Angel
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Pristine Angel
1 Exalted Angel
1 Admontion Angel
1 Emeria Angel
1 Yosei the Morning Star
1 Stonehewner Giant
1 Sun Titan
1 Serra Ascendant
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Weathered Wayfarer
1 Devout Witness
1 Solemn Simalucrum
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Pithing Needle
1 Expedition Map
1 Extraplanar Lens
1 Brittle Effigy
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Journeyer's Kite
1 Sol Ring
1 Argentum Armor
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Sword of Body and Mind
Spells
1 Day of Judgment
1 Wrath of God
1 Final Judgment
1 Austere Command
1 Rout
1 Catastrophe
1 Planar Cleansing
1 Akroma's Vengeance
1 Martial Coup
1 Hallowed Burial
1 All is Dust
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Return to Dust
1 Condemn
1 Path to Exile
1 Disenchant
1 Land Tax
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Ajani Goldmane
1 Elspeth Knight Errant
1 Elspeth Tirel
So it's obviously a Mono White Control deck... I just wonder if there's anything besides the Armageddon route to take with her. Also, if anyone knows, how would I get this deck put into the database? I just want to see more than 1 Linvala deck there. ^^;
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That's what i run on MWS, because i love Angels, but i wont run or build on paper until i can get a Foil Japanese Linvala.
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I wish I could, but besides Enlightened Tutor and maybe Planar Portal, I don't know a good way to fetch Kormus Bell. For Urborg I have Expedition Map and Weathered Wayfarer already in the deck, so another non-basic wouldn't hurt. I also wouldn't know what to take out. I know I'm definitely adding one of the new Angels from SOM to the deck, and I'll probaby have to take out Yosei for it. But I am not sure what works and what doesn't since I don't have a regular play group.
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Sunblast Angel is looking pretty good right now, i admit.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
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Oblation is a really good general hoser. Also I don't see Scroll Rack, so good with shuffle effects and just broken with Land Tax.
Pearl Medallion might have a place, and Gilded Lotus is a huge mana boost. Coldsteel Heart for more accel and maybe Scrying Sheets for additional card draw. Not sure why Sensei's Divining Top isn't in here but it needs to be.
Looking at your list, Auriok Salvagers can recur Pithing Needle, Expedition Map, Sol Ring and Skullclamp. Also Top if you run it. Also Phyrexian Furnace since a lot of times there's only 1 or 2 cards in a GY that are true problems.
Maze of Ith > Mystifying Maze. It's too mana intensive and is a bombo with ETB creatures your opponents control.
Angelic Renewal fits the theme, is tech, and it a bomb with Sun Titan. I think Crucible of Worlds needs to be in here somewhere. It's really good with Fetches, Armageddon, Cataclysm, and can bring back busted lands like Emeria which will get a lot of hate. Also I never found Jitte all that good in a MP game.
So anyway enough with my ranting. Good luck!
@ Darklich528 If I could figure out what to take out for the Gauntlet of Power and Scroll Rack, I'd probably do it. Also, I don't own a Maze of Ith, Sensei's Divining Top or Crucible of Worlds... Otherwise, I'd have likely put them in here already. I need to go look for my Aura of Silence though... I'd probably take out the disenchant for it...
@Gaka What should I take out for the Sunblast Angel then?
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EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
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Map? Don't ever take Map out. Unless you're running an all-basic land deck, Expedition Map is an EDH staple.
I find that a little underwhelming, to be honest.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
Emeria, Temple, Maze, Kor Haven are all amazing cards. If you can run a 1cc colorless tutor for effects like those, you do it. No good reason not to.
I have taken out some of the less spectacular and more expensive angels to put in some of the newer/cheaper ones.
-Platinum Angel, -Angelic Arbiter, -Battlgrace Angel <=just seem sub-par and over-costed... especially since I don't really have a way to protect the Platinum Angel...
+Sunblast Angel, +Indomitable Archangel, +Serra Avenger
Equipment upgrades:
-Skullclamp, -Sword of Vengeance, -Loxodon Warhammer
+Argentum Armor (for the lulz and will likely be taken out for the last Sword), +Sword of Body and Mind, + Sword of Feast and Famine
Land upgrades:
-3 Plains
+Mistveil Plains, +Kjeldoran Outpost, +Tectonic Edge
I'm still working on getting a Maze of Ith...
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Removing Argentum Armor and Sword of Body and Mind would clear the way for those artifacts and your deck will suffer little for their loss.
Also, it's been mentioned but you have WAY too many wrath effects. Check out the recent mana stones thread and the all-inclusive mana stones thread for some good acceleration you should be playing in those slots so you can actually cast your angels.
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