If Edgar gets banned I won't play this format anymore, I won't play Titania vs Titania.
Edgar is the easiest deckbuilding challenge ever and if the players are too weak to solve it, they don't desserve to have a format.
If Edgar gets banned I won't play this format anymore, I won't play Titania vs Titania.
Edgar is the easiest deckbuilding challenge ever and if the players are too weak to solve it, they don't desserve to have a format.
This sort of attitude is clearly too extreme.
I've restructured my Daretti deck and now I just don't lose to Edgar anymore. I play anger of the gods, slagstorm, sweltering suns, flamebreak, rough//tumble, pyroclasm and whipflare. I beat the 'deckbuilding challenge' that so many here are talking about. I still think the deck should be banned. You guys are being too short-sighted. Edgar is not only bad for combo decks, as most here claim, he is the bane of other aggro decks as Raizen mentioned. Who wants to play in a format with only one aggro deck and maybe one burn deck in zurgo? I certainly find that boring as hell. Playing Daretti and kicking Edgar's ass repeatedly is also no fun at all, I much rather play against a greater diversity of decks.
Finally, saying that Titania will 'run rampant' with the format if Edgar gets banned is ludicrous. Titania is a good deck, but far from being that oppressive. Of course, we should ban fastbond AGAIN, because it was a mistake and it makes the deck unnecessarily stronger. Probably the same goes for Ancient Tomb. Despite being EXCELLENT in Daretti, I think the card is too unbalanced to stay.
Anyway, I feel like some people that enjoy playing aggro (and I'm usually one of them) are letting their judgment being impaired here. Edgar is incredibly harmful to the diversity of this format and it contrives deckbuilding. You HAVE to play cheap wrath effects to deal with it, which not only limits your colors to red and/or black it also makes your matchup against different decks miserable when you keep drawing those *mostly* dead wrath effects.
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If Edgar gets banned I won't play this format anymore, I won't play Titania vs Titania.
Edgar is the easiest deckbuilding challenge ever and if the players are too weak to solve it, they don't desserve to have a format.
This sort of attitude is clearly too extreme.
I've restructured my Daretti deck and now I just don't lose to Edgar anymore. I play anger of the gods, slagstorm, sweltering suns, flamebreak, rough//tumble, pyroclasm and whipflare. I beat the 'deckbuilding challenge' that so many here are talking about. I still think the deck should be banned. You guys are being too short-sighted. Edgar is not only bad for combo decks, as most here claim, he is the bane of other aggro decks as Raizen mentioned. Who wants to play in a format with only one aggro deck and maybe one burn deck in zurgo? I certainly find that boring as hell. Playing Daretti and kicking Edgar's ass repeatedly is also no fun at all, I much rather play against a greater diversity of decks.
Finally, saying that Titania will 'run rampant' with the format if Edgar gets banned is ludicrous. Titania is a good deck, but far from being that oppressive. Of course, we should ban fastbond AGAIN, because it was a mistake and it makes the deck unnecessarily stronger. Probably the same goes for Ancient Tomb. Despite being EXCELLENT in Daretti, I think the card is too unbalanced to stay.
Anyway, I feel like some people that enjoy playing aggro (and I'm usually one of them) are letting their judgment being impaired here. Edgar is incredibly harmful to the diversity of this format and it contrives deckbuilding. You HAVE to play cheap wrath effects to deal with it, which not only limits your colors to red and/or black it also makes your matchup against different decks miserable when you keep drawing those *mostly* dead wrath effects.
It's stupid not running those cards in this meta, it's stupid not running answers to those cards as Edgar. If those 5 Edgars are at top8 it's because neither of the 24 other players cared to fight it. I wouldn't even be surprised if those 2 Titanias were the only two Titanias at the tournament and got there by being a naturally good match vs the current fad fairweather players haven't even figured out completely yet.
I don't think the future meta will be Titania vs Titania because she's much more powerful than others, I think it will be so because the Commander community at large doesn't seem to give a damn about experimenting or metagaming at all and just want to play the "old classic" or the "new OP".
My local scene died when they banned Bruse, Geist and Jace because a "competitive" format that punishes people being competitive at the deckbuilding stage is not a format worth playing. You tell people to adapt and exactly how to exploit the "new broken deck" and they get offended, they don't want to play anything but the pile they built from their trade binder scraps or the "best deck" they netdecked from an event 8 months ago. Then whine when it doesn't beat a new deck until it gets banned. No ***** new decks never last in this format.
On Edgar specifically, claiming he is bad for the format because he's good against other aggro decks is the same as claiming Burn is bad for Modern because it beats Affinity and Death's Shadow. It makes little sense. Zurgo's best and worst match-ups are not the same as Edgar's which are not the same as Karlov's. The problem is, again, that people insist on un-diversifying the format and playing as few decks as possible despite the ridiculously versatile cardpool.
No offense but people like you, 3drinks, yujipooji and me are the odd ones out in how much we actually seem to like the format as a whole, most people seem to be looking for a discount Standard and the DC has been barking up at the wrong three by keeping them entertained. Nobody seems to play Daretti at my city, or Kalitas in Philippines, or Karlov in France. Of course multiple copies of a couple decks are gonna show up in all top8s if nobody plays the decks that beat them and force the metagame to open. It's like always losing to the 18 Tron players at your Modern FNM and still refusing to play Burn because you might run into the 1 Soul Sisters dude.
3-0-1, ID'ing the last round again so we could all go home earlier. Titania, Zurgo, Baral Poly. We had some Oloros and Keranos that tryed to out-play the meta but all of their Pyroclasm effects and Engineered Plague-like enchantments only drag them down since they lost round 1 or 2 to Mono B Sidisi and Jace HT.
The problem of trying to solve it all during deckbuilding and going for counters to the current fad is that your deck also have to beat the ones that you did not came side-boarded for. Oloro already has an advantage over Edgar b/c of the life cushion but lost to HT because it was trying to interact on the wrong axis. The same is true for the Keranos player, who is a great player, but ended up losing round 1 and did not face any Edgars b/c of it.
If you have a "best deck", doesn't have to be by a great margin, and the counters to it just don't have a great % over the rest of the field, then you are better off playing the "best deck". Reducing Edgars' power to "other people not trying to counter it" is a very simplistic point of view, one that ends up not holding up most of the times. If all people just try to angle-shoot against Edgar they leave their bums uncovered for some other 'unfair' strategy to exploit the meta, one that's naturally good against Ed and people trying to punish creatures at sorcery speed, whoever this strategy might be.
Edric warped the meta, was a big trouble to the diversity and provided a very steep entry barrier for new players to overcome, as it was oppressive against untuned decks. Edgar is the same but in different colors. You might think it's easy to beat it, but I thought Vial wasn't difficult to beat when it was legal.
3-0-1, ID'ing the last round again so we could all go home earlier. Titania, Zurgo, Baral Poly. We had some Oloros and Keranos that tryed to out-play the meta but all of their Pyroclasm effects and Engineered Plague-like enchantments only drag them down since they lost round 1 or 2 to Mono B Sidisi and Jace HT.
The problem of trying to solve it all during deckbuilding and going for counters to the current fad is that your deck also have to beat the ones that you did not came side-boarded for. Oloro already has an advantage over Edgar b/c of the life cushion but lost to HT because it was trying to interact on the wrong axis. The same is true for the Keranos player, who is a great player, but ended up losing round 1 and did not face any Edgars b/c of it.
If you have a "best deck", doesn't have to be by a great margin, and the counters to it just don't have a great % over the rest of the field, then you are better off playing the "best deck". Reducing Edgars' power to "other people not trying to counter it" is a very simplistic point of view, one that ends up not holding up most of the times. If all people just try to angle-shoot against Edgar they leave their bums uncovered for some other 'unfair' strategy to exploit the meta, one that's naturally good against Ed and people trying to punish creatures at sorcery speed, whoever this strategy might be.
Edric warped the meta, was a big trouble to the diversity and provided a very steep entry barrier for new players to overcome, as it was oppressive against untuned decks. Edgar is the same but in different colors. You might think it's easy to beat it, but I thought Vial wasn't difficult to beat when it was legal.
This info is of little relevance because you're not playing the same format as we are. In 20lp the decks that prey on Edgar (Kalitas, Marchesa, Doran) do have good games vs other decks, which they absolutely didn't have in the Zurgo vs Titania meta. Edgar ADDS diversity particularily in the Control bracket that had pretty much dissapeared after Geist got banned and now represents close to 50% of the meta.
I am afraid that with the current trend of top8's from Edgar it might get banned, not because I want it to be, but because to many people are playing it and making top 8... I am never for any banning.. the more decks the merrier... and so far have never had issues with what was the supposed top deck... ^^
Then again most people here are not really great players... You might call some of them Netdeckers I guess...
I don't want to be rude to people who play on a budget or play in a casual meta, that's perfectly fine and it's really nice seeing people like that come here for ideas, tech and discusion. But there's a vocal group of people who keep whining to the DCC to ban this and that because their dinosaur from the 30lp metagame can't compete anymore and they don't want to change a single card from it. There's also people who get super upset when a deck has more than 5% meta presence even if it doesn't translate into actual tournament wins because they have personal issues and can't sleep at night when reality doesn't align with their OCD or something. Those are the people I say the DCC should stop listening to because their goal should be crafting a metagame where the largest ammount of decks possible in all three play archetypes are viable to win a tournament, not try to please the unpleasable internet malebolge.
I also fear Edgar will end up being banned not because he's factually better than other current decks but because he's popular and we can't have nice new things that promote creativity when so many people seem to wish we could've stayed in 2014 forever. And as I said, I won't stand to continue playing such a format, even Modern at it's worst didn't have stuff getting banned to willy nilly.
When the life shifted from 30, to 20, everyone I ever played told me they were sorry that I couldn't play Alesha anymore, least of which via my own reckless, life is a resource style. I proved them wrong when I continued to play it, and put up positive numbers with it. This is thanks to my ability to predict a meta and make concessions for what is necessary. While most would just stand up on their tip toes and shout "that's b.s. I shouldn't have to play [card x] in a serious environment" that's really just the equivalent of a toddler screaming that they didn't get their way.
"It's not meta cards if the meta demands it."
- Pyroclasm isn't just good vs Edgar; it's good against any other kind of mana dork decks. Although I admit I'd prefer a Slagstorm effect as it's also better vs Titania and it's tokens. Still, lots of these are easily castable by t3 on the draw...Edgar is not winning on t3. There are no decks winning that early in this format...and there are tons of three cmc, three point mass removals.
- Grave hate isn't just good vs combo; it's also good vs recursion decks, control decks (snapcaster and the like).
- Lastly, comparing Edgar to Edric isn't a fair comparison at all. Edric warped the entire format to be literally a 2 deck format of him or anti-him, at his worst was at 45% presence in the metagame. His colour distribution also absolutely made a difference - being the two best colours in the format gave access to the best CA, efficient [preemptive] answers, protection, all wrapped up in a commander that provided overwhelming, one-sided CA. Edgar doesn't do this at all.
- With Edric, you could play specific hate cards and were still 50% to lose. With Edgar, you might win through hate but it's much less likely.
- Edgar is only over-represented right now, because, as Cainsson said, no one is innovating. Everyone is trying to play the same list from a year or two ago because they don't want to change. There's lots of strats that will beat him convincingly and regularly, and they aren't just hard meta decks.
Are creatures better when you add the text "when you cast this, create a 1/1 creature token on the battlefield"? Sure. Absolutely. But to be busted? Not even.
A deck shows up that makes decks people were complaining they couldn't play anymore because they lost to Zurgo (MBC, Abzan Midrange) competitive again and they want it gone.
What do people want?
True, my opponent said he couldn't kill me because I would gain the life I lost when Triskelion came back from the grave and I didn't question it until now.
Pre-Prerelease FNM results
Vs Karlov 1-2
Vs Titania 2-1
Vs Zurgo 2-1
Vs Doran 0-2
Vs Kalitas 1-2
Not my best night. I didn't draw Authority of the Consuls or Blind Obedience in a single game, which made me appreciate how much the deck depends on virtually or otherwise removing blockers.
Pre-Prerelease FNM results
Vs Karlov 1-2
Vs Titania 2-1
Vs Zurgo 2-1
Vs Doran 0-2
Vs Kalitas 1-2
Not my best night. I didn't draw Authority of the Consuls or Blind Obedience in a single game, which made me appreciate how much the deck depends on virtually or otherwise removing blockers.
Should tell all the anti-Edgar players to read these results and suck it.
Say it ain't so. A deck that's good mostly when it draws specific cards?! *gasp* that's only, like, every single competitive deck ever!
A 3-2 score is absolutely nothing to talk about banning over, which proves the naysayers were knee-jerking to the "new big thing on campus" and failing to let the metagame sort itself out.
Should tell all the anti-Edgar players to read these results and suck it.
Say it ain't so. A deck that's good mostly when it draws specific cards?! *gasp* that's only, like, every single competitive deck ever!
A 3-2 score is absolutely nothing to talk about banning over, which proves the naysayers were knee-jerking to the "new big thing on campus" and failing to let the metagame sort itself out.
Do you see the 20% of metagame dominance that Edgar has? Because that is what you should be looking at, not anedoctal evidence of one player in one tournament. I can grab the objectively best deck in any format and get wrecked. That doesn't make it 'not the best deck'.
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Should tell all the anti-Edgar players to read these results and suck it.
Say it ain't so. A deck that's good mostly when it draws specific cards?! *gasp* that's only, like, every single competitive deck ever!
A 3-2 score is absolutely nothing to talk about banning over, which proves the naysayers were knee-jerking to the "new big thing on campus" and failing to let the metagame sort itself out.
Do you see the 20% of metagame dominance that Edgar has? Because that is what you should be looking at, not anedoctal evidence of one player in one tournament. I can grab the objectively best deck in any format and get wrecked. That doesn't make it 'not the best deck'.
Your 20% argument is not valid as the sample size of games with Edgar is far too small to not be skewed by large degrees variance.
Should tell all the anti-Edgar players to read these results and suck it.
Say it ain't so. A deck that's good mostly when it draws specific cards?! *gasp* that's only, like, every single competitive deck ever!
A 3-2 score is absolutely nothing to talk about banning over, which proves the naysayers were knee-jerking to the "new big thing on campus" and failing to let the metagame sort itself out.
Do you see the 20% of metagame dominance that Edgar has? Because that is what you should be looking at, not anedoctal evidence of one player in one tournament. I can grab the objectively best deck in any format and get wrecked. That doesn't make it 'not the best deck'.
Your 20% argument is not valid as the sample size of games with Edgar is far too small to not be skewed by large degrees variance.
My argument is not valid due to small sample size... but yours - asking for the people who oppose edgar to 'suck it' - with sample size of ONE, is?
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Should tell all the anti-Edgar players to read these results and suck it.
Say it ain't so. A deck that's good mostly when it draws specific cards?! *gasp* that's only, like, every single competitive deck ever!
A 3-2 score is absolutely nothing to talk about banning over, which proves the naysayers were knee-jerking to the "new big thing on campus" and failing to let the metagame sort itself out.
Do you see the 20% of metagame dominance that Edgar has? Because that is what you should be looking at, not anedoctal evidence of one player in one tournament. I can grab the objectively best deck in any format and get wrecked. That doesn't make it 'not the best deck'.
Your 20% argument is not valid as the sample size of games with Edgar is far too small to not be skewed by large degrees variance.
My argument is not valid due to small sample size... but yours - asking for the people who oppose edgar to 'suck it' - with sample size of ONE, is?
Neither argument is valid because MTGtop8 results for duel commander are *****, and my tournament reports are anecdotal.
Only 5 of the lastest 10 reported events have a fully disclosed top 8 and Edgar's 24% comes from just 12 results. If there's just one Titania concealed among each of those 5 top8s that only show 1st-3rd, she'd be at 20% too. Does she need to get banned ASAP, or is making permanent metagame desicions from 50 deck results too rough when it doesn't target the new kid?
This is the first time ever an extremelly popular color combination, playstyle and tribe becomes playable all on the same deck and it's not even a month old. We're also at the lowest event density we've had pretty much ever. People aren't playing DC anymore thanks to the Bruse/Jace/Geist ban and Fastbond unban. I bet banning Edgar and unbanning Channel is the solution.
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Welcome to Titania's wild ride. This is the end result of every change they've made to the banlist since the 20lp change and I will not be playing such a format.
I'd rather deal with Breya, at least she could play from a different angle every game.
Whoever wants to keep posting on this thread, we can make it about the MTGO banlist Edgar, which BTW went 4-0 once more last week. We have until November for it to be banned anyway ;p
Whoever wants to keep posting on this thread, we can make it about the MTGO banlist Edgar, which BTW went 4-0 once more last week. We have until November for it to be banned anyway ;p
Would edgar really be banned in 30 life you think? BTW is your tapped out list updated?
Whoever wants to keep posting on this thread, we can make it about the MTGO banlist Edgar, which BTW went 4-0 once more last week. We have until November for it to be banned anyway ;p
Would edgar really be banned in 30 life you think? BTW is your tapped out list updated?
He might not be since Leagues are suffering on MODO, so by November he might not be the biggest problem on line. I'll update it next weekend, before the new cards become legal.
Of course not, gotta protect the waifu.
I'll be trading my JP Balance for dinosaurs and play casual, bet if I keep playing this ***** they'll ban Karlov too because it's unfair that a deck can force Titania into a draw.
With the markov ban I better change the title to gear the discussion more for the MTGO banlist. I'm guessing there's a thread about the announcement in the duel primer thingy anyway.
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Edgar is the easiest deckbuilding challenge ever and if the players are too weak to solve it, they don't desserve to have a format.
I've restructured my Daretti deck and now I just don't lose to Edgar anymore. I play anger of the gods, slagstorm, sweltering suns, flamebreak, rough//tumble, pyroclasm and whipflare. I beat the 'deckbuilding challenge' that so many here are talking about. I still think the deck should be banned. You guys are being too short-sighted. Edgar is not only bad for combo decks, as most here claim, he is the bane of other aggro decks as Raizen mentioned. Who wants to play in a format with only one aggro deck and maybe one burn deck in zurgo? I certainly find that boring as hell. Playing Daretti and kicking Edgar's ass repeatedly is also no fun at all, I much rather play against a greater diversity of decks.
Finally, saying that Titania will 'run rampant' with the format if Edgar gets banned is ludicrous. Titania is a good deck, but far from being that oppressive. Of course, we should ban fastbond AGAIN, because it was a mistake and it makes the deck unnecessarily stronger. Probably the same goes for Ancient Tomb. Despite being EXCELLENT in Daretti, I think the card is too unbalanced to stay.
Anyway, I feel like some people that enjoy playing aggro (and I'm usually one of them) are letting their judgment being impaired here. Edgar is incredibly harmful to the diversity of this format and it contrives deckbuilding. You HAVE to play cheap wrath effects to deal with it, which not only limits your colors to red and/or black it also makes your matchup against different decks miserable when you keep drawing those *mostly* dead wrath effects.
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It's stupid not running those cards in this meta, it's stupid not running answers to those cards as Edgar. If those 5 Edgars are at top8 it's because neither of the 24 other players cared to fight it. I wouldn't even be surprised if those 2 Titanias were the only two Titanias at the tournament and got there by being a naturally good match vs the current fad fairweather players haven't even figured out completely yet.
I don't think the future meta will be Titania vs Titania because she's much more powerful than others, I think it will be so because the Commander community at large doesn't seem to give a damn about experimenting or metagaming at all and just want to play the "old classic" or the "new OP".
My local scene died when they banned Bruse, Geist and Jace because a "competitive" format that punishes people being competitive at the deckbuilding stage is not a format worth playing. You tell people to adapt and exactly how to exploit the "new broken deck" and they get offended, they don't want to play anything but the pile they built from their trade binder scraps or the "best deck" they netdecked from an event 8 months ago. Then whine when it doesn't beat a new deck until it gets banned. No ***** new decks never last in this format.
On Edgar specifically, claiming he is bad for the format because he's good against other aggro decks is the same as claiming Burn is bad for Modern because it beats Affinity and Death's Shadow. It makes little sense. Zurgo's best and worst match-ups are not the same as Edgar's which are not the same as Karlov's. The problem is, again, that people insist on un-diversifying the format and playing as few decks as possible despite the ridiculously versatile cardpool.
No offense but people like you, 3drinks, yujipooji and me are the odd ones out in how much we actually seem to like the format as a whole, most people seem to be looking for a discount Standard and the DC has been barking up at the wrong three by keeping them entertained. Nobody seems to play Daretti at my city, or Kalitas in Philippines, or Karlov in France. Of course multiple copies of a couple decks are gonna show up in all top8s if nobody plays the decks that beat them and force the metagame to open. It's like always losing to the 18 Tron players at your Modern FNM and still refusing to play Burn because you might run into the 1 Soul Sisters dude.
The problem of trying to solve it all during deckbuilding and going for counters to the current fad is that your deck also have to beat the ones that you did not came side-boarded for. Oloro already has an advantage over Edgar b/c of the life cushion but lost to HT because it was trying to interact on the wrong axis. The same is true for the Keranos player, who is a great player, but ended up losing round 1 and did not face any Edgars b/c of it.
If you have a "best deck", doesn't have to be by a great margin, and the counters to it just don't have a great % over the rest of the field, then you are better off playing the "best deck". Reducing Edgars' power to "other people not trying to counter it" is a very simplistic point of view, one that ends up not holding up most of the times. If all people just try to angle-shoot against Edgar they leave their bums uncovered for some other 'unfair' strategy to exploit the meta, one that's naturally good against Ed and people trying to punish creatures at sorcery speed, whoever this strategy might be.
Edric warped the meta, was a big trouble to the diversity and provided a very steep entry barrier for new players to overcome, as it was oppressive against untuned decks. Edgar is the same but in different colors. You might think it's easy to beat it, but I thought Vial wasn't difficult to beat when it was legal.
I don't want to be rude to people who play on a budget or play in a casual meta, that's perfectly fine and it's really nice seeing people like that come here for ideas, tech and discusion. But there's a vocal group of people who keep whining to the DCC to ban this and that because their dinosaur from the 30lp metagame can't compete anymore and they don't want to change a single card from it. There's also people who get super upset when a deck has more than 5% meta presence even if it doesn't translate into actual tournament wins because they have personal issues and can't sleep at night when reality doesn't align with their OCD or something. Those are the people I say the DCC should stop listening to because their goal should be crafting a metagame where the largest ammount of decks possible in all three play archetypes are viable to win a tournament, not try to please the unpleasable internet malebolge.
I also fear Edgar will end up being banned not because he's factually better than other current decks but because he's popular and we can't have nice new things that promote creativity when so many people seem to wish we could've stayed in 2014 forever. And as I said, I won't stand to continue playing such a format, even Modern at it's worst didn't have stuff getting banned to willy nilly.
"It's not meta cards if the meta demands it."
- Pyroclasm isn't just good vs Edgar; it's good against any other kind of mana dork decks. Although I admit I'd prefer a Slagstorm effect as it's also better vs Titania and it's tokens. Still, lots of these are easily castable by t3 on the draw...Edgar is not winning on t3. There are no decks winning that early in this format...and there are tons of three cmc, three point mass removals.
- Grave hate isn't just good vs combo; it's also good vs recursion decks, control decks (snapcaster and the like).
- Lastly, comparing Edgar to Edric isn't a fair comparison at all. Edric warped the entire format to be literally a 2 deck format of him or anti-him, at his worst was at 45% presence in the metagame. His colour distribution also absolutely made a difference - being the two best colours in the format gave access to the best CA, efficient [preemptive] answers, protection, all wrapped up in a commander that provided overwhelming, one-sided CA. Edgar doesn't do this at all.
- With Edric, you could play specific hate cards and were still 50% to lose. With Edgar, you might win through hate but it's much less likely.
- Edgar is only over-represented right now, because, as Cainsson said, no one is innovating. Everyone is trying to play the same list from a year or two ago because they don't want to change. There's lots of strats that will beat him convincingly and regularly, and they aren't just hard meta decks.
Are creatures better when you add the text "when you cast this, create a 1/1 creature token on the battlefield"? Sure. Absolutely. But to be busted? Not even.
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What do people want?
Vs Karlov 1-2
Vs Titania 2-1
Vs Zurgo 2-1
Vs Doran 0-2
Vs Kalitas 1-2
Not my best night. I didn't draw Authority of the Consuls or Blind Obedience in a single game, which made me appreciate how much the deck depends on virtually or otherwise removing blockers.
Should tell all the anti-Edgar players to read these results and suck it.
Say it ain't so. A deck that's good mostly when it draws specific cards?! *gasp* that's only, like, every single competitive deck ever!
A 3-2 score is absolutely nothing to talk about banning over, which proves the naysayers were knee-jerking to the "new big thing on campus" and failing to let the metagame sort itself out.
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Do you see the 20% of metagame dominance that Edgar has? Because that is what you should be looking at, not anedoctal evidence of one player in one tournament. I can grab the objectively best deck in any format and get wrecked. That doesn't make it 'not the best deck'.
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Your 20% argument is not valid as the sample size of games with Edgar is far too small to not be skewed by large degrees variance.
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Read my other stories as well (some ongoing):
Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
Only 5 of the lastest 10 reported events have a fully disclosed top 8 and Edgar's 24% comes from just 12 results. If there's just one Titania concealed among each of those 5 top8s that only show 1st-3rd, she'd be at 20% too. Does she need to get banned ASAP, or is making permanent metagame desicions from 50 deck results too rough when it doesn't target the new kid?
This is the first time ever an extremelly popular color combination, playstyle and tribe becomes playable all on the same deck and it's not even a month old. We're also at the lowest event density we've had pretty much ever. People aren't playing DC anymore thanks to the Bruse/Jace/Geist ban and Fastbond unban. I bet banning Edgar and unbanning Channel is the solution.
Italics for catty sarcasm.
Happy. It was too much for 20 life, see him one last time tonight then kiss him goodbye.
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
I'd rather deal with Breya, at least she could play from a different angle every game.
Would edgar really be banned in 30 life you think? BTW is your tapped out list updated?
The zurgo nerfs too. Wow. Dc shifting the meta towards green it seems. Ironic considering they were vocal about B/G dominance way back.
He might not be since Leagues are suffering on MODO, so by November he might not be the biggest problem on line. I'll update it next weekend, before the new cards become legal.
I'll be trading my JP Balance for dinosaurs and play casual, bet if I keep playing this ***** they'll ban Karlov too because it's unfair that a deck can force Titania into a draw.