Also, Mogg Fanatic (or Death Cultist) + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker both in the yard + Necrotic Ooze on the field is a really nice and easy combo to set up with just a Buried Alive and then casting the ooze via Chainer. NOTE: I was recently informed you dont even need the third piece. You can activate Kiki after your opponents end step but before their cleanup phase to keep the tokens until the next players end step which will untap your army of infinite tapped oozes if your turn is next. This requires trickier timing and is more easily disrupted by say a Ghostly Prison so you may want to keep the third pieces in anyway. But still, its good to know if you only have the 2 pieces
I used those combos Sedris, the Traitor King, though Chainer certainly made it much simpler with his low cc and build-in discard. A shame Intuition cannot be used here. Call to the Netherworld is likely the best after an Entomb/Final Parting type spell, discard it to play a creature while retrieve the second combo piece from graveyard (Mikaeus/Necrotic Ooze).
Not sure how I feel about the Kiki + Combat Celebrant combo. If you don't have a good enough board position it doesn't work, but I'm already running Kiki anyway and Combat Celebrant isn't the worst stand alone card
Doomed Necromancer is going to be killer in this deck as a way to cheat in big creatures pretty early. Sheoldred, Whispering One is expensive, but late game she'll completely control the game, if you can protect her. One off spells like Reanimate will be good, especially with creatures like Anarchist to reuse it.
Doomed Necromancer is going to be killer in this deck as a way to cheat in big creatures pretty early. Sheoldred, Whispering One is expensive, but late game she'll completely control the game, if you can protect her. One off spells like Reanimate will be good, especially with creatures like Anarchist to reuse it.
A lot of those are really great enablers that I will def using, thanks for mentioning them. Especially Doomed Necromancer, thats gonna be a great way to repeatedly cheat out wincons like Sheoldred.
Not sure how I feel about the Kiki + Combat Celebrant combo. If you don't have a good enough board position it doesn't work, but I'm already running Kiki anyway and Combat Celebrant isn't the worst stand alone card
How so? It doesn't need a good board position.
You Kiki a copy of Combat Celebrant. You attack with the token and exert it. It untaps Kiki and itself. Sure, they can block, and it'll die. But then you make another... and attack again. And again. And again. Every time, it's another 4 damage on their blockers. They'll run out eventually.
Sure, it has some weaknesses to First Strike, Protection from Red, and Indestructible - but it does work, even if you only have kiki and the celebrant. And once you clear someone's blockers, you can start building up a board of them to hit the people that do have blockers.
Not sure how I feel about the Kiki + Combat Celebrant combo. If you don't have a good enough board position it doesn't work, but I'm already running Kiki anyway and Combat Celebrant isn't the worst stand alone card
How so? It doesn't need a good board position.
You Kiki a copy of Combat Celebrant. You attack with the token and exert it. It untaps Kiki and itself. Sure, they can block, and it'll die. But then you make another... and attack again. And again. And again. Every time, it's another 4 damage on their blockers. They'll run out eventually.
Sure, it has some weaknesses to First Strike, Protection from Red, and Indestructible - but it does work, even if you only have kiki and the celebrant. And once you clear someone's blockers, you can start building up a board of them to hit the people that do have blockers.
Here is my list for anyone interested. Its $200 budget because we have some newish players and I dont want them to feel like they're losing to money. It's mainly the mana base that suffers lol
- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Zealous Conscripts
- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Combat Celebrant
- Walking Ballista (or Triskelion for budget)+ Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
- Archfiend of Despair + Heartless Hidetsugu (or Tree of Perdition to kill 1 player)
I like these cause they're 2 card combos and all creatures so they can be reanimated.
Also, Mogg Fanatic (or Death Cultist) + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker both in the yard + Necrotic Ooze on the field is a really nice and easy combo to set up with just a Buried Alive and then casting the ooze via Chainer. NOTE: I was recently informed you dont even need the third piece. You can activate Kiki after your opponents end step but before their cleanup phase to keep the tokens until the next players end step which will untap your army of infinite tapped oozes if your turn is next. This requires trickier timing and is more easily disrupted by say a Ghostly Prison so you may want to keep the third pieces in anyway. But still, its good to know if you only have the 2 pieces
For just solid reanimate targets there's: Flayer of the Hatebound, Sire of Insanity and Archfiend of Spite
Mass Reanimation: Living Death, Twillight's Call and Balthor the Defiled
Any other good combos I'm missing or other solid win cons for new Chainer?
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Edit: The tree combos on one player with Archfiend of Despair too. What fo you guys think of that combo?
Edit 2: Heartless Hidetsugu Works even better with the Archfiend
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
The Archfiend is great, because Chainer's deck will have dedicated reanimation, not to mention its much cheaper than Wound Reflection.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Edit: Also Living Death
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
It's true, Chainer's ability allows you to discard each turn, even if you cannot cast a creature.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Scourge of Nel Toth can take advantage of the haste support.
Artisan of Kozilek can also work since it's two bodies for 9.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Also something like Corpse Dance will be really, really good late game. Also Entreat the Dead.
If you want to play around with artifact creatures, Goblin Welder and Daretti, Scrap Savant will be amazing.
One more that I love. Ever After + Rune-Scarred Demon.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
@votechainer2016
A lot of those are really great enablers that I will def using, thanks for mentioning them. Especially Doomed Necromancer, thats gonna be a great way to repeatedly cheat out wincons like Sheoldred.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
I'm definitely planning to build this deck as well, and my first two big-money cards will be that and Wheel of Fortune.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
@votechainer2016
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
You Kiki a copy of Combat Celebrant. You attack with the token and exert it. It untaps Kiki and itself. Sure, they can block, and it'll die. But then you make another... and attack again. And again. And again. Every time, it's another 4 damage on their blockers. They'll run out eventually.
Sure, it has some weaknesses to First Strike, Protection from Red, and Indestructible - but it does work, even if you only have kiki and the celebrant. And once you clear someone's blockers, you can start building up a board of them to hit the people that do have blockers.
Retired EDH - Tibor and Lumia | [PR]Nemata |Ramirez dePietro | [C]Edric | Riku | Jenara | Lazav | Heliod | Daxos | Roon | Kozilek
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/200-chainer-nightmare-adept/?cb=1565664092
Feel free to provide constructive criticism
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)