So I've got an idea for a super casual deck. In my playgroup, we allow proxy cards. So I wanted to make a deck with all the fast mana, best lands, 1 mana tutors, power cards etc.... and ramp into Leviathan type garbage as the only wincons.
So wondering what are some similar *trash* creatures, ideally with terrible downsides. Currently UB, I mostly found islandhome and terrible demons hence those colours were best.
Current general is Dralnu, Lich Lord as he is a creature with a terrible downside. But I'm open to other generals too if it gives more creatures.
Things like Kezzerdrix, which are awful but not unbelievably awful, are more for a V.2 of the deck. If the Leviathan plan is just too awful to ever do anything, these merely 'bad' creatures will start coming in.
Sorry I didn't acknowledge you in my earlier post Melkor, for some reason only FetalTadpole's post was visible to me.
A while ago I ran a grixis tribal djinn deck, and the most memorable game that has stood out from my playgroup has always been when I had to rely on an army of Emberwilde Caliph from rite of replication
A while ago I ran a grixis tribal djinn deck, and the most memorable game that has stood out from my playgroup has always been when I had to rely on an army of Emberwilde Caliph from rite of replication
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I'm really liking these middling bad creatures. Something like Boldwyr or Caliph are pretty awful, in a way that is more aggressive but also more playable than Leviathan. Cheers for the suggestions!
Lol wood elemental is perfect, but the others are just too good for this deck. The creatures need to actively hurt you when they come in, in a way that is more intense than 1 life per turn.
The general does not have to be Dralnu, thats just the current best option. Karona, False God is pretty terrible though, so I could maybe make an argument for 5C, though she isn't as on point flavour wise as Dralnu.
At the moment, my game plan is cast Leviathans, use cards like Ledgerdomain and Puca's Mischief to swap them for decent creatures. Dralnu helps facilitate that plan by recasting some of the exchange spells, while being a potentially terrible creature too. Sultai, being what it is, is severely lacking in awful three colour commanders so BUG is out of the question.
There are Hunted Dragon, Hunted Troll, and Hunted Phantasm, all of which I would consider bad cards in commander without a way to exploit the tokens. (but maybe not awful awful)
So wondering what are some similar *trash* creatures, ideally with terrible downsides. Currently UB, I mostly found islandhome and terrible demons hence those colours were best.
Current general is Dralnu, Lich Lord as he is a creature with a terrible downside. But I'm open to other generals too if it gives more creatures.
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Good lord, those other ones are atrocious.
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Elder Spawn feels very Leviathan-esque.
Hellcarver Demon is very hard to work with.
Greater Harvester hurts but can hurt them, too.
Ovinomancer is pretty trash, even if I run it in Mairsil (where you get around the downside).
Attacking with Ebonblade Reaper hurts, even if it does get through.
Kezzerdrix is a possibility.
Lurking Evil is not worth it.
Banshee is really bad.
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Things like Kezzerdrix, which are awful but not unbelievably awful, are more for a V.2 of the deck. If the Leviathan plan is just too awful to ever do anything, these merely 'bad' creatures will start coming in.
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I wish there was a way for me to put all these creatures into play under my opponents' control.
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The general does not have to be Dralnu, thats just the current best option. Karona, False God is pretty terrible though, so I could maybe make an argument for 5C, though she isn't as on point flavour wise as Dralnu.
At the moment, my game plan is cast Leviathans, use cards like Ledgerdomain and Puca's Mischief to swap them for decent creatures. Dralnu helps facilitate that plan by recasting some of the exchange spells, while being a potentially terrible creature too. Sultai, being what it is, is severely lacking in awful three colour commanders so BUG is out of the question.
Things like Leviathan:
There are Hunted Dragon, Hunted Troll, and Hunted Phantasm, all of which I would consider bad cards in commander without a way to exploit the tokens. (but maybe not awful awful)
Cosmic Larva,
Drooling Ogre,
Goldnight Castigator
Jagged Poppet,
Mardu Blazebringer,
and Qal Sisma Behemoth are some good reasons to run red.
Ogres are apparently rife with badness as well. Raving Oni-Slave also exists.
Also Worldgorger Dragon and Soulgorger Orgg are really bad.
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