They should reprint the original 5 decks. I would be happy if they spent a year off planning new decks and instead just reprint the first 5 again. (Of course i may not be saying this if i still had the first 5 and bot sold most of the cards.)
Reprint the original 5 with also new cards instead of chaff and 2 new commanders for each deck
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
They already reprinted Mimeoplasm and Kalia. Zedruu would be a small percentage of people to want this (again).
Zedruu also contains Trade Secrets, which is banned, so it's unlikely to see print with the original decklist. A new player buying up the cute goat minotaur lady's deck only to find that one of the cards in it isn't actually allowed just means feelbads.
Mana Crypt. Same status as Sol Ring - banned in Legacy, restricted in Vintage. It was fair to dangle it as a carrot in EMA and as a Masterpiece for Vintage players because it was rarer than Sol Ring due to its unique origin status, but Vintage is such a narrow market comparatively to EDH I'd say it's unfair to dangle the regular versions any longer (since the Masterpiece exists).
If the hint from upcoming Modern products indicates they're diversifying to really focus on their target markets of each group, I'd daresay Vintage is too small for most considerations and cards like Crypt should have "Commander-targeted" as their main demographic instead.
Before anyone screams it'll aggravate the fast-mana "problem", I'd say the EMA print-run already initiated an arms race from what I saw. If it's really a problem curbed by price barriers (since EMA didn't exactly make it "cheap", just "cheaper" on the technicality), I'd rather it do a run like Sol Ring so we can properly assess how harmful is the whole situation. While Ring remains free (and has its complaints), cards like Primeval Titan did prove there is ultimately a line drawn. In fact, I'd feel a long-term "imbalance" caused by the EMA print run is more disturbing (and less likely to invoke actions since perceived barrier is no longer an active consideration of removal from the format) than if we let Sol-Crypt run amok for a while to make a proper assessment, especially now that the RC has introduced the CAG as more points of observation.
You can feel free to disagree (and I'm sure someone will), but I won't touch on the topic here further, the statement was just a preemptive reply because I know my choice of a needed reprint is bound to lead to someone raising this particular issue and I'm just planting my opinion here beforehand - some changes require statistical motivation beforehand (as Titan proved) and I think at this point of time, Crypt is definitely one of them, regardless of which side of the argument of whether it should go you stand on. As Masters have ended and I don't see Vintage having a chance of getting the treatment Modern is hinted to get at all, I'd say it's now a bonafide Commander-focused card for WotC to reprint.
You are right - it is only played as a single, and only in Vintage and EDH. If they put it in a precon, Commander players would be all over it, but not Legacy and Modern players.
They wouldn't be able to put it into only one deck though - it would remain expensive and that one deck would be in much higher demand. I think it is also unlikely that they will print it in multiple decks like Sol Ring.
I would only expect Mana Crypt to show up in a draftable set. Conspiracy and Battlebond are still around.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Mana Crypt show up in a future Conspiracy or Battlebond sort of set, but I think it would be very problematic to place in a Commander deck, just because a) there aren't very many cards that can be reprinted that would balance the value of a deck with Mana Crypt (Mana Drain is one of the few that leaps immediately to mind), and b) if they don't balance it - and find a way to do it that doesn't become a beacon to Vintage/Legacy/Modern players) - the decks will sell very unevenly and we will have a repeat of the True Name Nemesis fiasco.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Mana Crypt show up in a future Conspiracy or Battlebond sort of set, but I think it would be very problematic to place in a Commander deck, just because a) there aren't very many cards that can be reprinted that would balance the value of a deck with Mana Crypt (Mana Drain is one of the few that leaps immediately to mind), and b) if they don't balance it - and find a way to do it that doesn't become a beacon to Vintage/Legacy/Modern players) - the decks will sell very unevenly and we will have a repeat of the True Name Nemesis fiasco.
Put one in all of the decks just like with Sol Ring.
I'd rather they don't reprint cards that have been recently reprinted already because that's how/why other cards creep up as sellers try to recoup the lost dollars on cards that didn't get reprinted but find renewed interest thanks to the ones that did. Phyrexian Altar and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth were in UMA? Good, that means C19 needs Altar of Dementia and Cabal Coffers to cool those down too, not another immediate reprint of PA and Urborg.
I also would rather they finally look at all the $1-$4 INV-ONS era cards that they refuse to reprint instead of giving us one more Butcher of Malakir. Talismans instead of Signets, Eggs instead of Cluestones. Those cards may not be expensive but they're very hard to get in any quality that doesn't feel like toilet paper because cardboard just doesn't last 20 years, specially when it's common cardboard.
I'd really like to see a new Sakashima the Impostor reprint, maybe with some fancy new rk post artwork and the new legendary boarder. At the time of this post, non-foil Sakashima is $35 at scg, foil @ $80, all out of stock.
Tribal clones has always been a somewhat normal deck to expect at casual tables, and I'm really surprised that none of the developed pre-con's have ever focus on the easy theme. A few of the most powerful clone effects (sakashima, phantasmal image and vesuva) are fairly expensive and their inclusion would help justify the growing cost of the pre-cons.
I know it will never happen but fetchlands would nice.
Realistically I'd just like some of the staples that should be cents that are now a few bucks:
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Ash Barrens
- Lightning Greaves
- Skullclamp
- etc.
oooohhhhh!! i got it. pain lands adarkar wastes, karplusan forest et al. They're actually really good in EDH, since the damage it does to you is halved (i.e. 40 life/20 life), and they come into play untapped. It's not like they need more copies in the wild, but i think newer players need easier access to untapped lands.
Generally, i think mana is seen as the unfun part of deck-building. having precons that need so much work to fix the mana means that mana fixing becomes a drag - why not up the mana (remove comes into play tapped stuff, replace with lands like pains, checks, etc) and make the power bit the fun deck building part of the game?
The lack of near future Masters sets has me thinking of stuff like this for future Commander decks, cards with single printings that have become a lot more than they would having even one other printing.
Jesus, Athreos jumped in price. The command cards would be great to see again. Pretty sure Kolaghan's Command sees a bit of modern play alongside Bloodbraid Elf, which could explain the price.
It'a nice card but it costs €15 right now which i feel is more due to scarcity than the actual power of the card. I'd be happy to pick it up for like €5.
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I would say that cards that see play in almost every deck, like Sol Ring, should be reprinted. I would like to see reprints of the tutors, Nykthos, shrine to Nyx, and strip mine.
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Modern
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
A lot of the biggest offenders have been listed here (e.g. Bloom Tender and Vedalken Orrery), but the main thing that they should be doing is improving the mana bases. Some examples include:
Most of these are relatively inexpensive (prior to reprinting and will certainly be post reprinting, are not in standard) and serve as reasonable mana bases in decks (i.e. the first major step a deck would take when upgrading from the precon mana bases).
A lot of the biggest offenders have been listed here (e.g. Bloom Tender and Vedalken Orrery), but the main thing that they should be doing is improving the mana bases. Some examples include:
Most of these are relatively inexpensive (prior to reprinting and will certainly be post reprinting, are not in standard) and serve as reasonable mana bases in decks (i.e. the first major step a deck would take when upgrading from the precon mana bases).
Iconic lands I'd like to see in addition to these mentioned:
The absolute last thing I want to see is the value of precons eaten up by fetches. They are great if you can afford them, I just don't want them to be the only reason anyone buys a precon pack.
Reprint the original 5 with also new cards instead of chaff and 2 new commanders for each deck
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If the hint from upcoming Modern products indicates they're diversifying to really focus on their target markets of each group, I'd daresay Vintage is too small for most considerations and cards like Crypt should have "Commander-targeted" as their main demographic instead.
Before anyone screams it'll aggravate the fast-mana "problem", I'd say the EMA print-run already initiated an arms race from what I saw. If it's really a problem curbed by price barriers (since EMA didn't exactly make it "cheap", just "cheaper" on the technicality), I'd rather it do a run like Sol Ring so we can properly assess how harmful is the whole situation. While Ring remains free (and has its complaints), cards like Primeval Titan did prove there is ultimately a line drawn. In fact, I'd feel a long-term "imbalance" caused by the EMA print run is more disturbing (and less likely to invoke actions since perceived barrier is no longer an active consideration of removal from the format) than if we let Sol-Crypt run amok for a while to make a proper assessment, especially now that the RC has introduced the CAG as more points of observation.
You can feel free to disagree (and I'm sure someone will), but I won't touch on the topic here further, the statement was just a preemptive reply because I know my choice of a needed reprint is bound to lead to someone raising this particular issue and I'm just planting my opinion here beforehand - some changes require statistical motivation beforehand (as Titan proved) and I think at this point of time, Crypt is definitely one of them, regardless of which side of the argument of whether it should go you stand on. As Masters have ended and I don't see Vintage having a chance of getting the treatment Modern is hinted to get at all, I'd say it's now a bonafide Commander-focused card for WotC to reprint.
They wouldn't be able to put it into only one deck though - it would remain expensive and that one deck would be in much higher demand. I think it is also unlikely that they will print it in multiple decks like Sol Ring.
I would only expect Mana Crypt to show up in a draftable set. Conspiracy and Battlebond are still around.
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13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
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Put one in all of the decks just like with Sol Ring.
Phyrexian Altar and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth were in UMA? Good, that means C19 needs Altar of Dementia and Cabal Coffers to cool those down too, not another immediate reprint of PA and Urborg.
I also would rather they finally look at all the $1-$4 INV-ONS era cards that they refuse to reprint instead of giving us one more Butcher of Malakir. Talismans instead of Signets, Eggs instead of Cluestones. Those cards may not be expensive but they're very hard to get in any quality that doesn't feel like toilet paper because cardboard just doesn't last 20 years, specially when it's common cardboard.
Tribal clones has always been a somewhat normal deck to expect at casual tables, and I'm really surprised that none of the developed pre-con's have ever focus on the easy theme. A few of the most powerful clone effects (sakashima, phantasmal image and vesuva) are fairly expensive and their inclusion would help justify the growing cost of the pre-cons.
Links to my most current deck lists;
Primary EDH; Rakka Mar Token Perfection, Crosis Mnemonic Betrayal, Cromat Villainous, Judith Gravestorm, Rakdos Empty Storm, Exava Artifacts, Bant Trash, & Fumiko Voltron!
EDH kept at home; Ruzzian Isset & Rakdos LoR!
EDH (nostalgic/pimp/retired) in storage;
Latulla Burns, Akroma Smash, Jeska Voltron, Rakdos Storm, Bladewing Darghans, Lyzolda Worldgorger, Xantcha Steals your Heart, Jori Storm, Wydwen Permission, Gwendlyn Paradox, Jeleva Warps, & Sigarda Brick!
Legacy Showanimator and High Tide!
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This is solely because of my laziness and having never owned any one of these for any extended length of time. Please help me draw cards.
Realistically I'd just like some of the staples that should be cents that are now a few bucks:
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Ash Barrens
- Lightning Greaves
- Skullclamp
- etc.
possibly fetchlands? grove of the burnwillows?
oooohhhhh!! i got it. pain lands adarkar wastes, karplusan forest et al. They're actually really good in EDH, since the damage it does to you is halved (i.e. 40 life/20 life), and they come into play untapped. It's not like they need more copies in the wild, but i think newer players need easier access to untapped lands.
Generally, i think mana is seen as the unfun part of deck-building. having precons that need so much work to fix the mana means that mana fixing becomes a drag - why not up the mana (remove comes into play tapped stuff, replace with lands like pains, checks, etc) and make the power bit the fun deck building part of the game?
....though i'd wanna see the tabernacle at pendrell vale reprinted, so i could get a copy or 2.
Legacy - Solidarity - mono U aggro - burn - Imperial Painter - Strawberry Shortcake - Bluuzards - bom
Athreos, God of Passage
The lack of near future Masters sets has me thinking of stuff like this for future Commander decks, cards with single printings that have become a lot more than they would having even one other printing.
It'a nice card but it costs €15 right now which i feel is more due to scarcity than the actual power of the card. I'd be happy to pick it up for like €5.
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I agree that reprints should try to bring hard-to-get stuff. A good approach would be reprinting 10dollarish low supply cards such as medallions.
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
Most of these are relatively inexpensive (prior to reprinting and will certainly be post reprinting, are not in standard) and serve as reasonable mana bases in decks (i.e. the first major step a deck would take when upgrading from the precon mana bases).
Iconic lands I'd like to see in addition to these mentioned:
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Hall of the Bandit Lord
Shizo, Death's Storehouse
Maze of Ith
Strip Mine
Dust Bowl
Tolaria West
Kor Haven
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
The absolute last thing I want to see is the value of precons eaten up by fetches. They are great if you can afford them, I just don't want them to be the only reason anyone buys a precon pack.