It's been a couple of years since I last ran this, so I figure it's time for a fresh perspective. Just like in previous years, I'm going to create a poll to see what you the community feels ought to be banned in EDH. Like before, I will seed the poll with every card which is currently banned, every card which has been unbanned (for legitimate reasons not rules changes - GTFO Riftsweeper), as well as some stuff that I personally feel always comes up for discussion in the event that no one else mentions them. Unlike before, I'm not going to do multiple polls for tuck, BaaC, infect, etc. because they created issues with the poll. When the list goes up, simply select ALL the cards you think should be banned.
IN THIS THREAD: post a list of what cards you want to see on the poll. Please just post cards, no added chatter about your reasons. Additionally, don't comment on someone else's cards. If you want to have a conversation about cards, there's a subforum just for that. If there are any questions about this poll, ypu can post them here and I'll clarify. This thread will remain up for a few weeks, and around the beginning of October I'll compile the poll.
Cards that will currently be in the upcoming poll:
Cyclonic Rift (non-responsive design) Doubling Season (tired of it since WotC is pushing PWs - as a commander as well - too much) Mana Crypt (f**k fast mana without a significant drawback, warps games too much) Necropotence (love using it, but it is beyond stupid in this format) Sol Ring (see above) Storm Crow (OP af)
Consecrated sphinx
Protean Hulk
Deadeye navigator
cyclonic rift
Glen elendra archmage
Demonic tutor
Living plane
Rhystic study
Skullclamp
Oracle of mul daya
Armageddon
Ravages of war
Cards I think should be considered: Doubling Season - there's no way to use it without degeneracy, in fact it's only gotten worse since superfriends became a major thing. Food Chain - While I don't see it that often, again it isn't used outside of a broken context. Metalworker - I respect that it isn't on the list, and I can see why it isn't. I can also see how there's plenty of fuel for an argument to put it back on the list.
I can understand why all of the cards from the second list are considerable for banning. They're all strong. 3 of the 4 I play in the same deck, even. I'm just glad that they aren't.
I can also see and sympathise with an argument for banning of strict tutors - I'm happy to leave that as the individual's choice - it's restrictively expensive enough that I don't see them that often.
I am all for a pretty small list, and don't think most of what others are listing should be banned (Sol Ring/Crypt, maybe) even though some of them are overplayed.
Basic forest. So many degenerate plays are enabled by this card. Green decks pretend that they are fair edh battlecruiser decks but they are secretly fast combo decks that just ruin the format.
I've updated the OP with everything currently banned, (almost) every card mentioned in this thread, and a handful of cards that weren't mentioned but got a fair number of votes when I last did this poll. So as of now, if a card isn't on that list, it's not going to be on the poll.
Does this mean we can start debating the inclusion of individual cards or is that still left to the subforum? I feel like having to bounce between different threads would be an unnecessary headache. I get that there would be a lot of overlap between debate in this thread and the banlist discussion thread but it would be more convenient in the context of this poll to have any discussion related to it in the same thread.
No, no debating here. Truthfully, there doesn't need to be any discussion in this thread because it's just for letting me know what cards you want to see on the poll in a couple of weeks. In that thread you can discuss what you voted for and why, but even then there shouldn't be debates about people's choices. That should all be left to the BL forum.
It's been a couple of years since I last ran this, so I figure it's time for a fresh perspective. Just like in previous years, I'm going to create a poll to see what you the community feels ought to be banned in EDH. Like before, I will seed the poll with every card which is currently banned, every card which has been unbanned (for legitimate reasons not rules changes - GTFO Riftsweeper), as well as some stuff that I personally feel always comes up for discussion in the event that no one else mentions them. Unlike before, I'm not going to do multiple polls for tuck, BaaC, infect, etc. because they created issues with the poll. When the list goes up, simply select ALL the cards you think should be banned.
IN THIS THREAD: post a list of what cards you want to see on the poll. Please just post cards, no added chatter about your reasons. Additionally, don't comment on someone else's cards. If you want to have a conversation about cards, there's a subforum just for that. If there are any questions about this poll, ypu can post them here and I'll clarify. This thread will remain up for a few weeks, and around the beginning of October I'll compile the poll.
Cards that will currently be in the upcoming poll:
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Cyclonic Rift
Doubling Season (tired of it since WotC is pushing PWs - as a commander as well - too much)
Mana Crypt (f**k fast mana without a significant drawback, warps games too much)
Necropotence (love using it, but it is beyond stupid in this format)
Sol Ring (see above)
Storm Crow (OP af)
While they aren't as broken i'm bored seeing Tooth and Nail combos, Skullclamp, Deadeye Navigator.
Consecrated sphinx
Protean Hulk
Deadeye navigator
cyclonic rift
Glen elendra archmage
Demonic tutor
Living plane
Rhystic study
Skullclamp
Oracle of mul daya
Armageddon
Ravages of war
Doubling Season - there's no way to use it without degeneracy, in fact it's only gotten worse since superfriends became a major thing.
Food Chain - While I don't see it that often, again it isn't used outside of a broken context.
Metalworker - I respect that it isn't on the list, and I can see why it isn't. I can also see how there's plenty of fuel for an argument to put it back on the list.
Cards I play that I can concede are frustrating or borderline for a questionable ban:
Consecrated Sphinx
Paradox Engine
Cyclonic Rift
Tooth and Nail
I can understand why all of the cards from the second list are considerable for banning. They're all strong. 3 of the 4 I play in the same deck, even. I'm just glad that they aren't.
I can also see and sympathise with an argument for banning of strict tutors - I'm happy to leave that as the individual's choice - it's restrictively expensive enough that I don't see them that often.
I am all for a pretty small list, and don't think most of what others are listing should be banned (Sol Ring/Crypt, maybe) even though some of them are overplayed.
Paradox Engine. It is just too good.
Mana Crypt
That's enough to bring balance back into the force.
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Cyclonic rift
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