I'm building some Grusilda EDH, and I'm trying to find some good, CONSISTENT discard effects. Something like Zombie Infestation that says: Discard a card: Something happens. I know there's stuff like Entomb for getting creatures directly into your graveyard from your library, but I'm looking for something that'll get it out of my hand.
What are some good cards for that?
EDIT: Quick extra question. Is Volrath's Dungeon worth it, or will that get cracked IMMEDIATELY?
Volrath's Dungeon will always be destroyed by someone immediately.
Zombie Infestation is very powerful and there are few cards like it. Most effects have mana costs or are tap effects. Vampire Hounds and Olivia's Dragoon are the only ones I can think of with no restrictions.
You can use the Pithing Needle trick if you're really adamant about keeping Dungeon around. Can also run Lethal Vapors for a similar combo, and this might actually aid your gameplan if you're in creature heavy metas.
As for your original question, as Dunharrow pointed out, there aren't a ton of these types of effects that are worthwhile in this format. I would recommend looking at any creature with the "Spellshaper" type, as they all have a "pay x, discard a card, tap: effect" ability, but unless you have a convoluted untapping mechanism you'll only be getting one of each effect each turn. Still, Spellshaper tribal could be an interesting build.
If by "consistent" you mean repeatable and/or free, I'm sorry to say there aren't a lot of cards that both allow you to discard easily and have impactful effects. Zombie Infestation and Call the Bloodline are the two cards mentioned so far that I think are the best.
The other free, repeatable discard outlets that I can think of are Oona's Prowler, Putrid Imp, and Skirge Familiar. The Familiar is the only one of those that really gives you any benefit, but its mana cost is relatively high.
Cryptbreaker, Pack Rat, and Tomb Robber have discard effects that cost mana, but they give you something in return. Cryptbreaker has to tap, but will give the most value in the long run.
In my Olivia Discard deck I've found Deal Broker to be probably the best discard effect. No mana-investment, instant speed activation for madness stuff, along with draw.
He is also really non-threatening, being essentially a bad merfolk looter. Ppl familiar with the old looters won't think too much of it. You could add the red looters too (mad prophet and rummaging goblin), but they require you to discard first making them worse.
Well in red black you have avatar of discord and malfagor which use discard as an editional cost but malfagor can be a big beater in some games and avatar of discord only requires two
What are some good cards for that?
EDIT: Quick extra question. Is Volrath's Dungeon worth it, or will that get cracked IMMEDIATELY?
Zombie Infestation is very powerful and there are few cards like it. Most effects have mana costs or are tap effects.
Vampire Hounds and Olivia's Dragoon are the only ones I can think of with no restrictions.
Call the Bloodline is pretty good. Key to the City. Liliana of the Veil.
You should also consider cards like Collective brutality and Cathartic Reunion. Paired with Dredge, these are very good at filling your graveyard.
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As for your original question, as Dunharrow pointed out, there aren't a ton of these types of effects that are worthwhile in this format. I would recommend looking at any creature with the "Spellshaper" type, as they all have a "pay x, discard a card, tap: effect" ability, but unless you have a convoluted untapping mechanism you'll only be getting one of each effect each turn. Still, Spellshaper tribal could be an interesting build.
Look at:
Greel, Mind Raker
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Latulla, Keldon Overseer
Notorious Assassin
Seismic Mage
Bog Witch
Volrath the Fallen
Also, Skirge Familiar seems like something you want to run.
I agree that you should absolutely not play Volrath's Dungeon.
The other free, repeatable discard outlets that I can think of are Oona's Prowler, Putrid Imp, and Skirge Familiar. The Familiar is the only one of those that really gives you any benefit, but its mana cost is relatively high.
I think you might get the most mileage out of the red looters, Mad Prophet and Rummaging Goblin.
Cryptbreaker, Pack Rat, and Tomb Robber have discard effects that cost mana, but they give you something in return. Cryptbreaker has to tap, but will give the most value in the long run.
Faithless Looting, Demonic Collusion, Insolent Neonate, Lightning Axe, Pirate's Pillage, Viashino Racketeer, and Tormenting Voice give you a one-time discard for a reasonable benefit.
Cunning Lethemancer and Necrogen Mists give you a discard once each turn while affecting your opponents.
Tortured Existence allows you to dump creatures you want to reanimate in exchange for any small value creatures you have in the 'yard.
If your deck discards its own cards frequently, I love Big Game Hunter as a piece of removal.
Draft my Peasant Cube.
He is also really non-threatening, being essentially a bad merfolk looter. Ppl familiar with the old looters won't think too much of it. You could add the red looters too (mad prophet and rummaging goblin), but they require you to discard first making them worse.
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I know some Neheb decsk that run Malfegor or Sire of Insanity to get hellbent in one shot, and I have been a fan of Avaricious Dragon and Grafted Skullcap for that purpose.
As far as pure discard outlets, Call the Bloodline, Zombie Infestation, Skirge Familiar, Volrath's Dungeon, Hazoret the Fervent, and Pack Rat are probably your best bets.
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