Hey everyone. I just re-built myself a deck using Marchesa, the Black Rose as my new commander after having a sacrifice based Breya deck. So I've taken out all of the white and added life payment triggers and sac outlets etc.
It's been discussed on here before about using Marchesa to permanently gain control of my opponents creatures which all makes sense and is self explanatory for the most part anyway.
But here is my question. Lets say i gain control of an opponents commander using Highjack, say Atraxa for example, put a +1/+1 counter on her and sacrifice her to Bloodflow Connoisseur.
If my opponent chooses to have Atraxa return to his command zone will that alter Marchesa's ability or will it just return to my board under my control like everything else. My thoughts are that Atraxa would still return to me as Marchesa doesn't care where the creature goes, only that it died under my control with a +1/+1 counter. But I'd like to clarify for my friends who think the Command zone is a magical place of safety.
It's a replacement effect, so the creature never "died". Same reason child of alara can't blow up the world if he wants to return to the command zone - he has to actually go to the graveyard. So no, you can't steal commanders this way unless they choose not to send it to the command zone on death.
As a replacement effect your opponent can always choose to have Atraxa, Praetors' Voice go the command zone instead of his or her graveyard.
As a result, the creature would never "die"/hit the graveyard, so no Marchesa, the Black Rose trigger anyway.
For said situation, the command zone is a magical place of safety indeed.
It's been discussed on here before about using Marchesa to permanently gain control of my opponents creatures which all makes sense and is self explanatory for the most part anyway.
But here is my question. Lets say i gain control of an opponents commander using Highjack, say Atraxa for example, put a +1/+1 counter on her and sacrifice her to Bloodflow Connoisseur.
If my opponent chooses to have Atraxa return to his command zone will that alter Marchesa's ability or will it just return to my board under my control like everything else. My thoughts are that Atraxa would still return to me as Marchesa doesn't care where the creature goes, only that it died under my control with a +1/+1 counter. But I'd like to clarify for my friends who think the Command zone is a magical place of safety.
Cheers
Also the rulings forum is a better place for these sorts of questions. https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings
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As a result, the creature would never "die"/hit the graveyard, so no Marchesa, the Black Rose trigger anyway.
For said situation, the command zone is a magical place of safety indeed.
Cheers guys