MTG Salvation

well ixalan is fully revealed now so now we can get this started

oh by the way please no complaining about dinosaurs to weak in this forum if you want to go to the ixalan set threads not here

Gishath, Sun's Avatar is the legendary who is the number one choice for dinosaur tribal edh he can cheat quite a bit out from the deck. if he deals damage to players. and dinosaur type was the most wanted type to be added to magic the gathering. and now this is a momment for them to shine.


so lets get started

(ofcoarse we got the dinosaurs down if i missed any good ones or some should be removed let me know.)

Dinosaurs

• Bellowing Aegisaur
  
• Burning Sun's avatar
  
• Carnage tyrant
  
• Charging Monstrosaur
  
• Deathgorge Scavenger
  
• Deathmist Raptor
  
• fungusaur
  
• Goring creatops
  
• Imperial Aerosaur
  
• Imperiosaur
  
• Kinjalli's Sunwing
  
• Magmasaur
  
• Pygmy Allosaurus
  
• Raging Swordtooth
  
• Rampaging Ferocidon
  
• Ranging Raptors
  
• Raptor Hatchling
  
• Ravenous Dagger
  
• Regisaur Alpha
  
• Ridgetop Raptor
  
• Ripjaw Raptor
  
• Ripscale Predator
  
• Sky terror
  
• Snapping Sailback
  
• Steadfast Armasaur
  
• Sun-Crowned Hunters
  
• Territorial hammerskull
  
• Thrash Raptors
  
• Thundering Spineback
  
• Verdant Sun's Avatar
  
• Wakening Sun's avatar
  

Oh let's not forget the changelings and stuff that involves chosen type

• Mirror entity
  
• Taurean mauler
  
• Chameleon Colossus
  
• Adaptive automaton
  
• Metallic mimic
  
• Brass herald
  

EDIT: Welp todays the day 1/6/2018 the Rivals of ixalan set brought what the deck was missing for edh (expect recursion) and we got a good deck to start with now and we should get even more ammo in future sets (not as much as dragons/angels/demons/hydras of getting cards)

so heres the dinosaur staff from RIX

Rivals of ixalan dinosaurs

• Cacophodon
  
• Charging Tuskodon
  
• Cherished Hatchling
  
• Etali, Primal Storm
  
• Frilled Deathspitter
  
• Ghalta, Primal Hunger
  
• Imperial Ceratops
  
• Majestic Heliopterus
  
• Needletooth Raptor
  
• Overgrown Armasaur
  
• Polyraptor
  
• Raging Regisaur
  
• Siegehorn Ceratops
  
• Silverclad Ferocidons
  
• Temple Altisaur
  
• Thrashing Brontodon
  
• Trapjaw Tyrant
  
• Wayward Swordtooth
  
• Zacama, Primal Calamity
  
• Zetalpa, Primal Dawn
  

Okay, let's see.

Considering our commander, deck manipulation is going to be a thing:
Sensei's Divining Top
Scroll Rack
Sylvan Library
Worldly Tutor
Sylvan Tutor
Congregation at Dawn

Ramp:
Mirari's Wake
Skyshroud Claim
Farseek
Pillar of Origins
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
Xenagos, the Reveler
Birds of Paradise
Drover of the Mighty
Kodama's Reach
Cultivate
Growing Rites of Itlimoc/Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun
Chromatic Lantern
Darksteel Ingot

Cost Reduction/Cheating:
Green Sun's Zenith
Quicksilver Amulet
Elvish Piper
Herald's Horn
Krosan Drover
Kinjalli's Caller
Lurking Predators
Otepec Huntmaster
Command Beacon

Other possible cards:

Asceticism: Gotta protect those dinos.

Warstorm Surge: To take advantage of all the dinos that will be hitting the battlefield.

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight: To really ramp up our damage.

Xenagos, God of Revels: MOAR DAMAGE!



Possible hate cards?? To slow our opponents down as we build ourselves up?

Changelings count as Dinos also.

Chameleon Colossus
Taurean Mauler
Mirror Entity

Cards to help deal more damage:
Kessig Wolf Run
Gahiji, Honored One
Thunderfoot Baloth
Overwhelming Stampede
Beastmaster Ascension
Adaptive Automaton
Shared Animosity
Mayael's Aria

Wondering if effects like Pestilence and Pyrohemia as a way to easily trigger Enrage and control the other side of the board.

Also, I forgot some cards!

Shapers' Sanctuary: More cards if someone starts targets our dinos or their support.

Iroas, God of Victory: Where Xenagod makes a dino bigger and gives it haste, Iroas will make all of the dinos harder to block and they don't take damage when attack. For 4 mana, that ain't bad.

Vanquisher's Banner: Card draw and buffs for our dinos.

Tilonalli's Skinshifter: A card who gives us the ability to double up on an effective attacking creature.

Are the dinosaurs listed confirmed erratas?

Quote from chaoserver »

Are the dinosaurs listed confirmed erratas?

Here's a link to there full list here.

Here are some other cards that could help.

Circle of Elders
Dragon Whisperer
Drumhunter
Elemental Bond
Garruk's Packleader
Mighty Emergence
Paleoloth
Renegade Krasis
Sacellum Godspeaker
Gyre Sage
See the Unwritten
Shaman of Forgotten Ways
Shamanic Revelation
Whisperer of the Wilds

Brewing a combo around Gishath, Sun's Avatar + Breath of Fury + Wheel of Sun and Moon.

Essentially want to kill everyone on the same turn within the combat step by relentlessly attacking with jank Dinos. Its the only thing seems worth it in X commander until they release more better Dino cards

I agree that Herald's Horn is junk.

Harsh Mercy is kinda similar to Wakening Sun's avatar.

Kindred Boon grants indestructible.

Mana Echoes for more mana.

Shared Triumph

Traverse the Ulvenwald

Let's get some hate cards in this.

Since it can be a sub-theme

• Aura of Silence
  
• Aura shards
  
• Vorinclex, voice of hunger
  
• Null rod
  
• Grafdigger's cage
  
• Bonds of mortality
  
• Authority of the Consuls
  
• Stony Silence
  
• Blind Obedience
  
• Song of the Dryads
  
• Stranglehold
  
• Blood moon
  
• Hall of gemstone
  
• Shatterstorm
  
• Vandalblast
  
• Mizzium Mortars
  

Hi guys. Long story short: I am testing this build. I feel there are maybe a little too many dinosaur which are worth only limited. 3 tutors are considered creatures for the Commander count so I was considering cutting a few more dinasaur for utility/card draw/tutor.

// gishath v1

Pyrohemia is going to probably be the best card in my Gishath list. Barring indestructible, Ripjaw Raptor will be able to net me 4 cards a turn at instant speed for a mana each.

Lotta vanilla dinos at the moment but I'm going to build them anyways.

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Pyrohemia is going to probably be the best card in my Gishath list. Barring indestructible, Ripjaw Raptor will be able to net me 4 cards a turn at instant speed for a mana each.

Lotta vanilla dinos at the moment but I'm going to build them anyways.

Yea same for me

That problem should be fixed when "rivals of ixalan" comes out not garateed though.

raka sanctuary or caltrops help trigger enrage.

Yeah, I think the trap right now is just jamming in EVERY dino and hoping for the best. Instead, I think you jam the best Dinos and build a deck that takes advantage of enrage on those critters. Unless your goal is to build a theme deck, in which case yeah... jam every Dino you can.

I just realized, The Command Zone will have their Ixalan episode on Wednesday (20th), and one of them (Jimmy I do believe) will be making a Gishath, Sun's Avatar deck. Those guys know EDH inside and out, so I have faith that they will give us one heck of a Gishath, Sun's Avatar deck!

I think we all missed chandra, flamecaller to trigger enrage.

I'm definitely going to run Rampaging Ferocidon. I value consistent damage output over lifegain any day.

Bennie Smith wrote an article for SCG about Gishath, Sun's Avatar that has been posted today http://www.starcitygames.com/article/35848_I-Gishath-An-Idea.html

Quote from ilovesaprolings »

I need to make some excuses to Ryperior74. I have brewed a dinosaur deck and it's working better than i expected.
I mean it's still weak, mainly because it's very glasscannonish and easy to disrupt, but with the right hand and few removals it can be explosive. With Rivals of Ixalan, it may become a good deck.
These are the dinosaurs i'm using:

• Ancient Brontodon
  
• Bellowing Aegisaur
  
• Bonded Horncrest
  
• Burning Sun's Avatar
  
• Carnage Tyrant
  
• Charging Monstrosaur
  
• Colossal Dreadmaw
  
• Deathgorge Scavenger
  
• Goring Ceratops
  
• Grazing Whiptail
  
• Kinjalli's Sunwing
  
• Raging Swordtooth
  
• Ranging Raptors
  
• Raptor Hatchling
  
• Ravenous Daggertooth
  
• Regisaur Alpha
  
• Ripjaw Raptor
  
• Snapping Sailback
  
• Spike-Tailed Ceratops
  
• Steadfast Armosaur
  
• Sun-Crowned Hunters
  
• Thundering Spineback
  
• Trash of Raptors
  
• Verdant Sun's Avatar
  
• Wakening Sun's Avatar
  

They are 25, i think it's a good number. There are many suboptimal options, i hope that Rivals of Ixalan will bring more dinosaurs. This deck need a paleoloth and a spearbreaker behemoth like cards to not be too weak to removals.

I don't run Rampaging Ferocidon because i think it's too antisinergic with the deck. It stops Verdant Sun's Avatar, Deathgorge Scavenger and Ravenous Daggertooth and punish me for vomiting dinosaurs.

Glad to see we ar now on the same page now

Yes dinosaurs are good but are missing some factors in edh for now.

"Rivals of ixalan" should bring the missing pieces to this deck 16-24 cards or more in "rivals of ixalan" should be dinosaurs and probably %30-%60 give or take %3-%7 should be good.

regal behemoth should end but being one upgrade (magic is looking into this one for dinosaur type.)

Nominating Gruul Ragebeast for removal and Enrage triggers, Descendant's Pathfor mini Gishath-ing, Faith's Reward and Elixir of Immortalityfor recycling our grave?

Wild Pair to go with Lurking Predators.

Fires of Yavimaya because hasty dinos are scary.

Primal Surge, Where Ancients Tread, and Ruric Thar, the Unbowed as well.

Not sure what part of this will be gishath but the command zone prodcast of ixalan is up.

https://youtu.be/8BT0LMsvoag

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Quote from Monkey222 »

Wild Pair

I love Wild Pair, but in this deck there are some big problems:
1) it doesn't trigger when you cast Gishath (sadly, carnage tyrant was ready)
2) it doesn't trigger with Gishath free dinosaurs
3) some dinosaurs don't have a match. No 7/6 dinosaur for carnage tyrant, no 7/7 for wakening sun's avatar, no 9/9 for ancient brontodon...

1 and 2 are fair points, but point 3...

Wild Pair cares about the total, not the exact number.

So a 4/5 has a total of 9. It can get a 0/9, 1/8, 2/7, etc.

It would still be one of the first cuts, but still worth considering.