Sprouting Phytohydra is cheaper than Sekki, though, and goes infinite with only 2 of those cards (parallel lives and blasting station) though you'd need something to work off of the death triggers, and another creature to start things off with. The cheapest seems to be rot shambler, who would end up being infinitely large.
You don't need any death trigger shenanigans, but you do need another creature.
Sacrifice a creature to Blasting Station, doing one damage to Phytohydra and getting two copies. You now have two Blasting Station untap triggers. Let the first one resolve and then sac the original Phytohydra to do one damage to an opponent. Let the second trigger resolve and start over.
Unfortunately, the need for another creature is enough to technically prevent it from being a refutation.
The original combo had "another creature or way to damage sekki" included, so Sprouting Phytohydra does work as a refutation for any Parallel Lives+Blasting Station combo, unfortunately.
Sac the Any Creature to Blasting Station, deal 1 to Sekki and put 2 tokens in play. This untaps Blasting Station twice, but you only resolve one and leave the other on the stack, and tap your Blasting Station again to sac a token to deal another damage to Sekki. Repeat until you have a dead Sekki, which results in you having 9 untap triggers on the stack for Blasting Station, but also 9 spirit tokens in play, which you can sacrifice 8 of to bring Sekki back, and have one left over to restart the loop. And because of Doubling Season, now comes back with 16 counters instead of 8. This means you can run the same line of play back, but have an excess of tokens at the end. Eventually you will have enough spirits and untap triggers to just Blasting Station everything into oblivion.
The original combo had "another creature or way to damage sekki" included, so Sprouting Phytohydra does work as a refutation for any Parallel Lives+Blasting Station combo, unfortunately.
I got him with the stealth edit after he quoted my initial post. Not on purpose, obviously. I'm just immensely indecisive.
Sac the Any Creature to Blasting Station, deal 1 to Sekki and put 2 tokens in play. This untaps Blasting Station twice, but you only resolve one and leave the other on the stack, and tap your Blasting Station again to sac a token to deal another damage to Sekki. Repeat until you have a dead Sekki, which results in you having 9 untap triggers on the stack for Blasting Station, but also 9 spirit tokens in play, which you can sacrifice 8 of to bring Sekki back, and have one left over to restart the loop. And because of Doubling Season, now comes back with 16 counters instead of 8. This means you can run the same line of play back, but have an excess of tokens at the end. Eventually you will have enough spirits and untap triggers to just Blasting Station everything into oblivion.
Look a few comments above yours and you'll see that we're already discussing basically that combo. Yours is a little different because it hinges on Sekki actually dying, but it runs into the same problem of non-uniqueness, in that Sprouting Phytohydra can replace Sekki.
Tap Sekki, doing two damage to itself and making two spirits. Sac the spirits to Ashnod's Altar for 4. Use 3 to untap Sekki, also conveniently giving it +2/+2 and preventing it from ever dying from shooting itself in the foot.
This gives you infinite mana, which means you can also make an infinite number of spirit tokens, an infinitely large Sekki, and, most importantly, an infinite number of Heavy Arbalest activations.
Tap Sekki, doing two damage to itself and making two spirits. Sac the spirits to Ashnod's Altar for 4. Use 3 to untap Sekki, also conveniently giving it +2/+2 and preventing it from ever dying from shooting itself in the foot.
This gives you infinite mana, which means you can also make an infinite number of spirit tokens, an infinitely large Sekki, and, most importantly, an infinite number of Heavy Arbalest activations.
Kazandu Tuskcaller (fully powered so 14 mana) refutes again, since you do not need the Heavy Arbalest in play and equipped for Tuskcaller to generate infinite mana (and thus have 15 mana to play around with).
Wallycaine: I don't think your combo works because Tangleroot doesn't activate off of tokens.
256k: You silly punter, Saber Ants is a refutation
Oracletext: Yours looks fine, though I might stick with Blasting Station instead of Altar of Dementia since milling is unreliable in the EDH world of Eldrazi Titans.
I don't think Kazandu Tuskcaller refutes here because Phyrexian Altar doesn't provide enough mana to untap it with Umbral Mantle, even if it is fully powered up.
EDIT: Giant Growth is better from a mana budget perspective though. So let's say Giant Growth. Or alternately, we could save a card by just adding three to our mana budget and activating Umbral Mantle in response to the first Predatory Urge tap....
EDIT TO RESPOND TO REAPER'S LATER COMMENT WHICH WAS IN REPLY TO A PREVIOUS (NOW DELETED) EDIT OF THIS COMMENT, ALL FOR MAXIMUM THREAD CONFUSION: I had gotten Shuko and Leonin Scimitar confused.
I don't think Kazandu Tuskcaller refutes here because Phyrexian Altar doesn't provide enough mana to untap it with Umbral Mantle, even if it is fully powered up.
I don't think Kazandu Tuskcaller refutes here because Phyrexian Altar doesn't provide enough mana to untap it with Umbral Mantle, even if it is fully powered up.
EDIT: Giant Growth (or Shuko) is better from a mana budget perspective though. So let's say Shuko.
How does Shuko help you? Dont you need to increase thoughness not power?
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This combo doesn't work, though, since you don't have the 8 spirits you need to recur Sekki, you have to sac them to the blasting station before he dies. giant growth would work as a replacement for hardened scales, but then you, once again, need something to trigger off of things entering/leaving the battlefield, like altar of the brood, or champion of lambholt
Sekki, Seasons' Guide + Doubling Season + Blasting Station + Any Creature.
Sac the Any Creature to Blasting Station, deal 1 to Sekki and put 2 tokens in play. This untaps Blasting Station twice, but you only resolve one and leave the other on the stack, and tap your Blasting Station again to sac a token to deal another damage to Sekki. Repeat until you have a dead Sekki, which results in you having 9 untap triggers on the stack for Blasting Station, but also 9 spirit tokens in play, which you can sacrifice 8 of to bring Sekki back, and have one left over to restart the loop. And because of Doubling Season, now comes back with 16 counters instead of 8. This means you can run the same line of play back, but have an excess of tokens at the end. Eventually you will have enough spirits and untap triggers to just Blasting Station everything into oblivion.
I got him with the stealth edit after he quoted my initial post. Not on purpose, obviously. I'm just immensely indecisive.
Look a few comments above yours and you'll see that we're already discussing basically that combo. Yours is a little different because it hinges on Sekki actually dying, but it runs into the same problem of non-uniqueness, in that Sprouting Phytohydra can replace Sekki.
1) Equip Sekki with Thornbite Staff and Viridian Longbow, have it ping itself, creating a spirit.
2) Sacrifice the spirit to Altar of Dementia, untapping Sekki with the Thornbite Staff trigger. Repeat until everyone is milled to death.
Sekki, Seasons' Guide equipped with Heavy Arbalest and Umbral Mantle. Also, Ashnod's Altar.
Tap Sekki, doing two damage to itself and making two spirits. Sac the spirits to Ashnod's Altar for 4. Use 3 to untap Sekki, also conveniently giving it +2/+2 and preventing it from ever dying from shooting itself in the foot.
This gives you infinite mana, which means you can also make an infinite number of spirit tokens, an infinitely large Sekki, and, most importantly, an infinite number of Heavy Arbalest activations.
Sekki+tangleroot+Silklash Spider+any anthem+any way to give flying to Sekki+parallel lives
Requires 5 mana to start, but makes infinite tokens and mana
Kazandu Tuskcaller refutes.
Doesn't work because tangleroot requires playing spells. You could likely use earthcraft though
Kazandu Tuskcaller (fully powered so 14 mana) refutes again, since you do not need the Heavy Arbalest in play and equipped for Tuskcaller to generate infinite mana (and thus have 15 mana to play around with).
256k: You silly punter, Saber Ants is a refutation
Oracletext: Yours looks fine, though I might stick with Blasting Station instead of Altar of Dementia since milling is unreliable in the EDH world of Eldrazi Titans.
Tap Tracker to make Sekki fight itself. Get 15 spirits. Sekki dies. Sac 7 spirits for 10GG. Sac 8 spirits to bring back Sekki.
Pay 3 to untap Tracker. Pay 6 to re-equip Sekki. You have 1GG left and it only costs 1G to reactivate the Tracker.
Make infinite green mana, an infinite number of tokens, and an infinitely large Tracker.
This doesn't work because tracker can't make Sekki fight itself.
Dammit. Okay. Sekki, enchanted with Predatory Urge and equipped with Umbral Mantle. Gaea's Anthem. Phyrexian Altar.
Kazandu Tuskcaller... You could use Giant growth over anthem though
You need one other start creature
I don't think Kazandu Tuskcaller refutes here because Phyrexian Altar doesn't provide enough mana to untap it with Umbral Mantle, even if it is fully powered up.
EDIT: Giant Growth is better from a mana budget perspective though. So let's say Giant Growth. Or alternately, we could save a card by just adding three to our mana budget and activating Umbral Mantle in response to the first Predatory Urge tap....
EDIT TO RESPOND TO REAPER'S LATER COMMENT WHICH WAS IN REPLY TO A PREVIOUS (NOW DELETED) EDIT OF THIS COMMENT, ALL FOR MAXIMUM THREAD CONFUSION: I had gotten Shuko and Leonin Scimitar confused.
Ohh, you are right! I thought it was Ashnod's Altar
Tuskcaller doesn't produce enough creatures to untap itself with Umbral Mantle and Phyrexian Altar.
How does Shuko help you? Dont you need to increase thoughness not power?
You could likely use Sword of the Paruns with some way to tap creatures.
This combo doesn't work, though, since you don't have the 8 spirits you need to recur Sekki, you have to sac them to the blasting station before he dies. giant growth would work as a replacement for hardened scales, but then you, once again, need something to trigger off of things entering/leaving the battlefield, like altar of the brood, or champion of lambholt
Tymna & Ishai, ie Esper Edric
Crosis Turbotrash
I know, right?
Make sure you include Kazandu Tuskcaller, Sprouting Phytohydra, and Saber Ants!