The Meletis Kings should probably have the humans. Though they could easily be five color with Tazri, not sure if there are enough scarecrows to actually make a working deck.
Artificers is likely the best option for Breya, but since she isnt an artificer herself, you could throw it in Esper colors as that's likely better than Sphinx tribal.
Isnt Saskia a soldier? Pretty sure there are a few of those too.
BUG for Elves? How many blue Elves are there? Put it in GW, and make it a Rhys elf ball deck. Or put it in BG. Whats the point of making a tribal deck that is goodstuff? Elfball is where its at.
For BUG, you should go shaman, as Sidisi and Tasigur are both shamans. There are enough shamans in those colors, to include Eternal Witness. Fauna Shaman and Elvish Piper, Oracle of Mul Daya, Thrun, and a few others that will likely go in other tribal decks (lookng at you Woodfall). Make it based around sacing and recurring from the GY, and you can throw in Mazirek and Melen for kicks.
Tazri is obviously Ally Tribal... just saying lol.
Breya works for Thopter Tribal but sadly, Thopters tend not to be individual cards as much as attached to other cards (Whirlers and Thopter Spy Network for instance). Sadly Breya's creature types kinda leave you with Human tribal... seeing as Artificers are not a big tribe and they tend to be support for Artifact decks... and the two kings also only leave human tribal...
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I've got to say, I'm not big on Leovold Elves for BUG. Elves don't fit blue very well, and they make much better sense for mono-green (or GB if you have to). I would suggest The Mimeoplasm for ooze tribal instead! Fits the flavor of BUG quite nicely. Also, you could fit druids (the current G deck) into one of the four-color decks and have fun with them in multiple colors.
I've got to say, I'm not big on Leovold Elves for BUG. Elves don't fit blue very well, and they make much better sense for mono-green (or GB if you have to). I would suggest The Mimeoplasm for ooze tribal instead! Fits the flavor of BUG quite nicely. Also, you could fit druids (the current G deck) into one of the four-color decks and have fun with them in multiple colors.
Except none of the 4 color generals are Druids. The General needs to match the tribe, which right now is creating difficulty for the 4 colors because 3 of them are Humans and 2 of the 3 are soldier human.... and Artificer is not really a tribe.
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I agree with daugarten, UBGLeovold, Emissary of Trest - Elves is going to be a bit overpowered. Elves is one of the strongest tribes already. Not that you build the deck around Leovold ability, but if you do end up splashing card draw in decks in general then he is going to be a bit oppressive.
[EDIT] BG Insects seems like one of the weakest tribes. Lets face it is anybody really going to want to draw the short straw on that one?
Scouts as a tribe seem to be totally under powered as well, the only redeeming quality to the deck is the fact the Selvala, Explorer Returned is quite good.
What you could do is switch Knights from WUGRafiq of the Many to Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa. Lets face it Rafiq is less tribe and more voltron. I don't think he'd ever be leading an army, do you know what I mean? Like drawing and playing knights is just superfluous, because you'll just end up attack with one, probably Rafiq. At least Sidar gets your small knights into the red zone.
WU Kangee, Aerie Keeper - Birds can be changed to either Spirits (Brago, King Eternal or Geist of Saint Traft) or Merfolk (Sygg, River Guide)
Finally if you did change Merfolk over to Sygg, River Guide, which is the more flavor driven commander, then you could make mono-blue Mistform Ultimus and get it to represent Kraken/Leviathan/Octopus/Serpent tribal theme. "Technically" Mistform Ultimus is every creature type so you could play anything But I think this is a good tribal archetype to be represented
I count roughly 70 artificers in Breya's colors. If you dont want to fudge it, then there are still 47 (?) artificers, which is more than enough creatures for a deck with a good amount of artifacts. (For reference, I only count 36 Sphinxes in Esper colors.) Besides, Sydri is a fun commander.
Soldiers are far more relevant that most other "professions", with the likely exception of wizard. They should be represented somewhere, and Saskia is the easiest way to do it. Another option would be to put it in monoW.
all tribes filled. now it just depends of if i switch any
I edited my post quite a few times. Do you want to read over it again? Because I think you should make some more changes based on my suggestions, for game balance mainly.
The last thing I'd do would be to swap WBGGrave, Guru of Spores for a SpiritsKarador, Ghost Chieftain. The problem with fungus is that it really does play weak, and you're all in on Grave, Guru of Spores carrying you to victory.
As for as OxMan, I think Allies should be General Tazri, and not do the Slivers. The thing with the Slivers is that with the tutoring it plays very linear (but powerful) in it's approach. I've played a Sliver Overload deck for years, once you learn the correct sequence to maximize mana and tutoring, it plays the same. At least with the other decks its much more balanced with most of your stuff is top decking and random. You could say that General Tazri does the same thing, but its nowhere near the same with mana efficiency having to cast her out again or have some sort of blinking effect.
Man, I just looked through gatherer at every ogre you could run in Yidris and that deck is gonna have to have a really strong non-ogre gameplan and just run some crappy ogres because there are only a small handful of good ones.
Man, I just looked through gatherer at every ogre you could run in Yidris and that deck is gonna have to have a really strong non-ogre gameplan and just run some crappy ogres because there are only a small handful of good ones.
Well if someone could give me a new tribal with partners, I would gladly take it.
Man, I just looked through gatherer at every ogre you could run in Yidris and that deck is gonna have to have a really strong non-ogre gameplan and just run some crappy ogres because there are only a small handful of good ones.
Well if someone could give me a new tribal with partners, I would gladly take it.
Orges is mainly jank, but Yidris ability is pretty incredible. Just going to depend on what the "minimum" number of creatures is going to be? The idea is to balance the decks out right, make them as equal as possible. So there will be some tuning of not putting in too many jank Orges and giving Yedris evasion or bulk, so that he at least hits opponents. If you're not using his ability, then yes the deck isn't very good.
Sultai Elves is actually a very good choice I think. It's true that not many elves are blue, but you do miss out on a few real stars like Edric, Rashmi and Momir Vig if you don't have Simic colors.
It seems a shame to leave out Doran treefolk. However, Karador spirits lets you run some pretty good green spirits from Kamigawa (like the Kodamas), so it's a strong contender for the Abzan Slot.
Scarecrows seem a pretty bad choice for pentacolor to me. There's only 31 of them in the entire game, and they don't exactly have much tribal synergy. If you're going for a tribal project like this, I really feel that slots needs to go to Slivers. Can't have Elves, Zombies and Goblins but leave out one of Magic's most unique and iconic tribes.
No i did not, i just put Saskia in the wrong spot, which i then got an extra WBGR combo which was a different tribe. Tanks for the catch. witched Saksia to Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis
]Orges is mainly jank, but Yidris ability is pretty incredible. Just going to depend on what the "minimum" number of creatures is going to be? The idea is to balance the decks out right, make them as equal as possible. So there will be some tuning of not putting in too many jank Orges and giving Yedris evasion or bulk, so that he at least hits opponents. If you're not using his ability, then yes the deck isn't very good.
If i were to switch goblins it would be to RB and I would use Wort, Boggart Auntie But then i would need to find something to replace red.
I already have clerics and I already have Zombies. Given the fact that we already have a Thrax deck build I am not going to switch out Thrax. As for goblins, i have one built but I use Purphy as the general instead of Krenko, I a simply switching generals for this tribal wars thing.
No i did not, i just put Saskia in the wrong spot, which i then got an extra WBGR combo which was a different tribe. Tanks for the catch. witched Saksia to Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis
]Orges is mainly jank, but Yidris ability is pretty incredible. Just going to depend on what the "minimum" number of creatures is going to be? The idea is to balance the decks out right, make them as equal as possible. So there will be some tuning of not putting in too many jank Orges and giving Yedris evasion or bulk, so that he at least hits opponents. If you're not using his ability, then yes the deck isn't very good.
If i were to switch goblins it would be to RB and I would use Wort, Boggart Auntie But then i would need to find something to replace red.
I already have clerics and I already have Zombies. Given the fact that we already have a Thrax deck build I am not going to switch out Thrax. As for goblins, i have one built but I use Purphy as the general instead of Krenko, I a simply switching generals for this tribal wars thing.
Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper + Kraum, Ludevic's Opus = Zombies, you could make UBR Sol'kanar the Swamp King = Demons. You can keep the content of the Thrax deck together for the most part, just switch up generals. Like you only put in a minimal number of green sources, and maybe add a few green zombies like: Vulturous Zombie, Dreg Mangler, but basically keep the mana base and deck content Grixis UBR.
This way you can get the classic Angels vs Demons vs Dragons match up some time
Horde of Notions for your five color elementals deck! My current Breya deck has a heavy artificer theme, very good for inventing combos via Kaladesh themes. Don't forget r/w DepalA sp? Vehicles and dwarf tribal
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Artificers is likely the best option for Breya, but since she isnt an artificer herself, you could throw it in Esper colors as that's likely better than Sphinx tribal.
Isnt Saskia a soldier? Pretty sure there are a few of those too.
BUG for Elves? How many blue Elves are there? Put it in GW, and make it a Rhys elf ball deck. Or put it in BG. Whats the point of making a tribal deck that is goodstuff? Elfball is where its at.
For BUG, you should go shaman, as Sidisi and Tasigur are both shamans. There are enough shamans in those colors, to include Eternal Witness. Fauna Shaman and Elvish Piper, Oracle of Mul Daya, Thrun, and a few others that will likely go in other tribal decks (lookng at you Woodfall). Make it based around sacing and recurring from the GY, and you can throw in Mazirek and Melen for kicks.
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Breya works for Thopter Tribal but sadly, Thopters tend not to be individual cards as much as attached to other cards (Whirlers and Thopter Spy Network for instance). Sadly Breya's creature types kinda leave you with Human tribal... seeing as Artificers are not a big tribe and they tend to be support for Artifact decks... and the two kings also only leave human tribal...
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Except none of the 4 color generals are Druids. The General needs to match the tribe, which right now is creating difficulty for the 4 colors because 3 of them are Humans and 2 of the 3 are soldier human.... and Artificer is not really a tribe.
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Not represented is Warriors, so instead of Saskia the Unyielding I suggest
WBRG Reyhan, Last of the Abzan + Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder - Warriors (Only Reyhan is a warrior, but this helps fill your 4 colors and warriors needs to be represented in tribes)
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice should be able to run Praetors of course
I agree with daugarten, UBG Leovold, Emissary of Trest - Elves is going to be a bit overpowered. Elves is one of the strongest tribes already. Not that you build the deck around Leovold ability, but if you do end up splashing card draw in decks in general then he is going to be a bit oppressive.
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BG Insects seems like one of the weakest tribes. Lets face it is anybody really going to want to draw the short straw on that one?
Maybe switch the Elves to BG? Nath of the Gilt-Leaf, Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Rhys the Exiled, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Glissa, the Traitor are all options.
Shamans need to represented and so to fill in the BUG slot either Sidisi, Brood Tyrant or Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Scouts as a tribe seem to be totally under powered as well, the only redeeming quality to the deck is the fact the Selvala, Explorer Returned is quite good.
What you could do is switch Knights from WUG Rafiq of the Many to Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa. Lets face it Rafiq is less tribe and more voltron. I don't think he'd ever be leading an army, do you know what I mean? Like drawing and playing knights is just superfluous, because you'll just end up attack with one, probably Rafiq. At least Sidar gets your small knights into the red zone.
So change WG Selvala, Explorer Returned to Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa.
Then you could possible have WUG bant as Derevi, Empyrial Tactician as Bird tribal.
WU Kangee, Aerie Keeper - Birds can be changed to either Spirits (Brago, King Eternal or Geist of Saint Traft) or Merfolk (Sygg, River Guide)
Finally if you did change Merfolk over to Sygg, River Guide, which is the more flavor driven commander, then you could make mono-blue Mistform Ultimus and get it to represent Kraken/Leviathan/Octopus/Serpent tribal theme. "Technically" Mistform Ultimus is every creature type so you could play anything But I think this is a good tribal archetype to be represented
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Soldiers are far more relevant that most other "professions", with the likely exception of wizard. They should be represented somewhere, and Saskia is the easiest way to do it. Another option would be to put it in monoW.
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The last thing I'd do would be to swap WBG Grave, Guru of Spores for a Spirits Karador, Ghost Chieftain. The problem with fungus is that it really does play weak, and you're all in on Grave, Guru of Spores carrying you to victory.
Spirits needs to be represented for sure!
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Spirits is another strong option... but I would put them in UW and take out birds... though birds are a decent tribe too.
Also a bit strange to have the OxMan in two decks.
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As for as OxMan, I think Allies should be General Tazri, and not do the Slivers. The thing with the Slivers is that with the tutoring it plays very linear (but powerful) in it's approach. I've played a Sliver Overload deck for years, once you learn the correct sequence to maximize mana and tutoring, it plays the same. At least with the other decks its much more balanced with most of your stuff is top decking and random. You could say that General Tazri does the same thing, but its nowhere near the same with mana efficiency having to cast her out again or have some sort of blinking effect.
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I agree but the partners sucked, so i took the lesser of two evils.
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Well if someone could give me a new tribal with partners, I would gladly take it.
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I rather keep Elves in sultai and give Bg to something else like Treefolk or Fungus if Insect is too weak
Karador as the spirit commander isn't a pick in my opinion because it would be missing tons of greaat spirits in Blue.
I prefer the sugegstion of giving Bird tribal to Derevi in Bant and give WU to Spirits
No offense but there are 344 Shamans including all stars like:
Deathrite Shaman, Eternal Witness, Fauna Shaman, Master of the Wild Hunt, Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Oracle of Mul Daya, Reclamation Sage, Shaman of Forgotten Ways, Ulvenwald Tracker, Vampire Hexmage, Woodfall Primus, Yeva, Nature's Herald, Sakura-Tribe Elder
The quality of the 150 insects falls off pretty quickly. Plus there is zero tribal synergies, where as Shaman actually has tribal interactions like:
Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro, Squeaking Pie Grubfellows, Wolf-Skull Shaman, Bloodline Shaman
1 Ainok Survivalist
1 Beastcaller Savant
1 Centaur Omenreader
1 Circle of Elders
1 Dowsing Shaman
1 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
1 Elvish Piper
1 Kazandu Tuskcaller
1 Leaf-Crowned Elder
1 Masked Admirers
1 Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest
1 Nullmage Shepherd
1 Sapling of Colfenor
1 Sylvok Replica
1 Tajuru Preserver
1 Thelonite Hermit
1 Thornbite Staff
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Troll Ascetic
1 Wickerbough Elder
You've clearly never played a tribal Shaman deck before My tribal Shaman deck is an actual beast.
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Anyways i feel like Elves is better for the SULTAI spot and BG for Treefolk or Fungus, depending of who takes ABZAN(Without blue spirits sucks)
Im assuming you mean Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis
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Alternatives could be?
Tymna the Weaver + Tana, the Bloodsower = Clerics
Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa + Vial Smasher the Fierce = Goblins
Krenko as the Goblin commander could be considered too strong and linear right? I mean you'll probably find that:
But the other mono-red tribal offerings are terrible.
Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper + Kraum, Ludevic's Opus = Zombies
If you changed to Zombies you could make UBR Sol'kanar the Swamp King = Demons
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It seems a shame to leave out Doran treefolk. However, Karador spirits lets you run some pretty good green spirits from Kamigawa (like the Kodamas), so it's a strong contender for the Abzan Slot.
Scarecrows seem a pretty bad choice for pentacolor to me. There's only 31 of them in the entire game, and they don't exactly have much tribal synergy. If you're going for a tribal project like this, I really feel that slots needs to go to Slivers. Can't have Elves, Zombies and Goblins but leave out one of Magic's most unique and iconic tribes.
No i did not, i just put Saskia in the wrong spot, which i then got an extra WBGR combo which was a different tribe. Tanks for the catch. witched Saksia to Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis
If i were to switch goblins it would be to RB and I would use Wort, Boggart Auntie But then i would need to find something to replace red.
I already have clerics and I already have Zombies. Given the fact that we already have a Thrax deck build I am not going to switch out Thrax. As for goblins, i have one built but I use Purphy as the general instead of Krenko, I a simply switching generals for this tribal wars thing.
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This way you can get the classic Angels vs Demons vs Dragons match up some time
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Feather, the Redeemed
Estrid, the Masked
Teshar
Tymna/Ravos
Najeela, Blade-Blossom
Firesong & Sunspeaker
Zur the Enchanter
Lazav, the Multifarious
Ishai+Reyhan
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And free Ogres is still free Ogres.
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W - Cat Tribal
U - Ninja Tribal
B - Skeleton Tribal
R - Goblin Tribal
G - Treefolk Tribal
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UB - Shapeshifter Tribal
BR - Vampire Tribal
RG - Hydra Tribal
GW - Knight Tribal
WB - Cleric Tribal (Alternate Commanders)
UR - Weird Tribal
BG - Spider Tribal
RW - Dwarf Tribal
GU - Snake Tribal
GWU - Rhino Tribal
WUB - Giant Tribal
UBR - Zombie Tribal
BRG - Dragon Tribal
RGW - Beast Tribal
BWR - Angel Tribal
RUG - Elemental Tribal
GBW - Spirit Tribal
WRU - Monk Tribal
UGB - Ooze Tribal
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WBRG - Warrior and Soldier Tribal
WURG - Human Tribal (Alternative Partners)
WUBG - Horror Tribal
WUBR - Artifact Creature Tribal
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