I wouldn't go as far as "crazy good" but I'm on board with it. As long as you have 3 or more cards in hand it seems comparable to attunement which is a card I've been really happy with.
It's cute with anything that replaces drawing a card because then you don't discard, but I'm just happy to have another playable instant speed looting effect.
I'll need at least 2 copies for various decks. I think every deck I've ever had with UB in its colors loved looting.
By the way, as anyone tried ovalchase daredevil as a black Squee? With all the rocks I always end up playing in nongreen and all the looting UB decks use, it could be cute.
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I would have to say Ancient Excavation is best in a casual reanimator deck that wants to have a good selection around turn-5. A deck built for more consistency over game-breaking speed.
I wish it was mono-blue although, since it would be good in Bruna. Ironically enough they just reprinted read the runes which is a classic Bruna 'yard deposit.
I'm looking to test it in Tasigur reanimator. Even when it's a dead card you can always get a land so that's pretty sweet
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I don't really know how your tasigur deck works, or the speed it operates at. If you need an excessively high volume of cards to be spilled from deck-to-hand-to-'yard, and you have the mana to sink in to an x-spell, then sure read the runes could work out for you.
Not quite. You don't get the same synergy as "looters and Archive" at all. However many cards you draw, you discard that many.
It's still really good filtering, insane in graveyard-based strategies like reanimator and dredge, and at worst, it's a basic land of your choice.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
Not sure I get the appeal. No one ever plays tolarian winds (maybe some niv shananigans, but outside of that, no one). Unless you've got a way to replace the draws it doesn't seem THAT much better to me - sure, you get to draw before you discard instead of after, but it's also 4 mana. I feel like UB got the short end of the stick on this one - the WG and BR of the cycle seem far superior. I've never ever seen anyone play laquatus's creativity.
If you're replacing it with something besides draw, then it starts to look pretty decent, but I don't know that there's any decks that will get such an effect reliably enough to justify using this.
At least it basic-cycles, so the flexibility is nice. Still, I doubt I'll be using it anytime soon.
Going to drop it to Wrexial for a try. At least so far in my experience, the 'mill everyone for profit' has always had a card or three in hand that I would not mind tossing to grave anyway for later use. Sometimes the early cycling might come useful instead. I like the flexibility, in that sense.
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You draw more, but you discard as many as you draw, so no, it doesn't work with Archive, unless your goal is a full graveyard. You do, however, get good filtering.
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I'm planning to squeeze this card into my Cromat enchantments deck, which runs both Abundance and Replenish.
Also in colors Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar gives you INSANE card selection if you have a decent sized hand. You basically pick out whatever you want and don't discard.
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it seems crazy good its pretty much never a dead draw and its instant speed!
It's cute with anything that replaces drawing a card because then you don't discard, but I'm just happy to have another playable instant speed looting effect.
I'll need at least 2 copies for various decks. I think every deck I've ever had with UB in its colors loved looting.
By the way, as anyone tried ovalchase daredevil as a black Squee? With all the rocks I always end up playing in nongreen and all the looting UB decks use, it could be cute.
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I would have to say Ancient Excavation is best in a casual reanimator deck that wants to have a good selection around turn-5. A deck built for more consistency over game-breaking speed.
I wish it was mono-blue although, since it would be good in Bruna. Ironically enough they just reprinted read the runes which is a classic Bruna 'yard deposit.
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To be honest read the runes really doesn't seem good for a quicker deck like Tasigur.
I'd value any of the cheaper filtering cards like catalog/compulsive research/thirst for knowledge/careful consideration over read the runes in Tasigur.
Read the runes and Ancient Excavation both are also card disadvantage (unless you want to sac' stuff with runes). Frantic search and careful study are really the only card-disadvantage filters that I personally like to play.
I don't really know how your tasigur deck works, or the speed it operates at. If you need an excessively high volume of cards to be spilled from deck-to-hand-to-'yard, and you have the mana to sink in to an x-spell, then sure read the runes could work out for you.
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Not quite. You don't get the same synergy as "looters and Archive" at all. However many cards you draw, you discard that many.
It's still really good filtering, insane in graveyard-based strategies like reanimator and dredge, and at worst, it's a basic land of your choice.
On phasing:
If you're replacing it with something besides draw, then it starts to look pretty decent, but I don't know that there's any decks that will get such an effect reliably enough to justify using this.
At least it basic-cycles, so the flexibility is nice. Still, I doubt I'll be using it anytime soon.
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Works as in, getting more cards in your hand.
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You draw more, but you discard as many as you draw, so no, it doesn't work with Archive, unless your goal is a full graveyard. You do, however, get good filtering.
On phasing:
Also in colors Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar gives you INSANE card selection if you have a decent sized hand. You basically pick out whatever you want and don't discard.
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