I'm actually wondering, would an artifact themed deck build with Padeem, Consul of Innovation work? By giving fim shroud/hexproof equipments spot removal just got useless?
been thinking along the same lines silverskin armor is epic with him i almost just wana play voltron with him since he protects his gear.
same with any of the boots that give shroud and hexproof
Filigree Familiar and Noxious Gearhulk (or whatever it's called) for Glissa, the Traitor. The BG Fastland for Glissa, that's about it.
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Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
An Expedition if I get lucky This deck has so much new stuff that I have to play with it and see what I like, but I am sure vehicles can go into my Boros soldier deck. Panharmonicon is an easy slot into Ephara and will probably replace my Strionic Resonator.
Honestly, there's a lot of stuff I want from this set, some of which will immediately go into decks, others just because I may use it at some point. I expect to use up a fair bit of my PucaTrade credit picking up whatever I don't get from drafting.
Thada Adel will likely become the hexproof artifacts legendary. She draws too much hate and this guy is a great foil to all the spot removal in the format and it would be a nice mirror to my red artifacts.
Kurkesh red artifacts will get a combustible gearhulk when I can find one.
Glissa will get black gearhulk, the creature/artifact return thing, and that black thoughtknot. Probably the random guy that returns to hand from graveyard off of artifacts, and damage to all opponents from artifacts etc. Man theres heaps for her in here.
Dralnu gets the blue spellslinger enchantment thing.
Blue gearhulk, panharmonicon etc will just go everywhere as proxies once I pick up one legitimate one.
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EDH RRGrenzo plays your deck, GGYeva's mono green control, WW9-tails trys desperately for monowhite not to suck RWBUTymna and Kraum's saboteur tribal, UWG Kestia's Enchantress Aggro, RUB Jeleva casts big dumb spells, RGB Vaevictis' big critters can kill your critters hard
Here are the cards im going to try and what decks they go in.
Aetherstorm Roc - Boros Melee and Anafenza. The tapping matters in these decks and getting a low cost (for commander) decent sized flyer is good in my metagame. Angel of Invention - Boros Melee and Anafenza. Seems very strong on paper, might actually be better in reality. Fumigate - Dakkon Blackblade (esper landfall control). Just a good wrath. Fairgrounds Warden - Anafenza. Just trying it out. Master Trinketeer - Dromoka (everything tribal). All tribal lords get a shot in this deck. Metallurgic Summonings - Mizzix. Obvious. Torrential Gearhulk - Mizzix and Blue Braids. Seems good on paper, could be clunky and lame in reality. Demon of Dark Schemes - Volrath and Erebos. Solid black control card that will occasionally whammy. Gonti, Lord of Luxury - Dimir theafing (new deck). It steals, the deck is about stealing. Noxious Gearhulk - Dimir Stealing, Volrath Cathartic Reunion - Bartel Runeaxe, Ashling Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Ashling. might have to proxie that one. Combustible Gearhulk - Ashling, Pia and Kiran Naalar. Seems pretty legit. Pia Nalaar - Pia and Kiran Nalaar. Very fitting if a bit underwhelming. Bomat Bazzar Barge - Pia and Kiran Nalaar. Vehicles seem fun. Aetherworks Marvel - Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Buggin Foundry Inspector - Pia and Kiran Nalaar Metalwork Colossos - Braids, Pia and Kiran Nalaar Panahamarnacon - Nissa, Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Buggin. Perhaps all green decks warrant this card.
My only EDH deck I upkeep a lot is Reaper King, and even then, its themed soooo not super spooky here. It might want Panharmonicon, because it uses a lot of recur etb effects, well see. It also might care about Noxious Gearhulk, but its likely win more because going infinate in that deck vindicates anyways, and I already have 3 ways to gain life going off.
I'm not getting that many cards from the set, running themed decks limits what is fitting and useful, but here is what I am getting:
Saheeli's Artistry - Will likely go into my Riku deck, the potential of four clones is interesting to have and works well with what the deck wants to do. Panharmonicon - Oona relies on a lot of ETB effects with her Eldrazi Processors, so that's a natural fit. Gonti, Lord of Luxury - Seem like something I might try in Oona as well, it exiles for the Processors but can also make that card be of use to me in other ways. Also, a deathtouch blocker ain't bad.
The "issue" is still that they get to choose their best pieces (and you lose more than one of yours in voltron). Plus side is that white can recur artifacts and creatures more easily than wraths.
Nothing for Mogis, Phenax, Drana, or Mizzix, though I am eyeing Metallurgic Summonings for the latter. Just don't know how I feel about tapping out to play it. Maybe as a "fairer" Show and Tell target than Omniscience...
Modern: -UBG Lantern Control-GW or RG or R Tron - G Stompy - C KCI Combo-
EDH: -UG Ezuri-UGZegana-BRMogis-WUBRGRamos-WBREdgar-URLocust God-WUBRBreya-BMacar-WUBrago-WEvra-
White Angel of Invention - This creature does both of the things that token decks want to do. Cataclysmic Gearhulk - Strong in 1v1, brutal in multiplayer. Wispweaver Angel - One of white's best ways of getting value is flickering its ETB creatures. Additionally doesn't have Resto Angel's non-Angel rider.
Black Marionette Master - Four bodies on a single card with 2 or less power for Alesha or Grenzo. You could also pump this with Nightmare Lash or something and start doming people for a lot. Midnight Oil - I have a soft spot for black enchantments that draw cards and have huge drawbacks. I'm not sure how this interacts with Reliquary Tower. Does the timestamp on this card consistently update? Morbid Curiosity - Seems good for Kokusho and other commanders in black with death triggers. I keep thinking about using this with Goblin Dark-Dwellers to draw five for 3RR.
Multicolor Cloudblazer - Sup Brago? Rashmi, Eternities Crafter - Probably just a goodstuff commander. Picking her up on the off chance I want to build her.
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
Lazav got Insidious Will to replace Mystic Confluence and Inventor's Fair over an Island. Testing out Skysovereign, took out Elusive Tormentor, but only because I had no idea what else to cut. Maybe Silumgar?
I'd add gearhulks if I had them, especially to Sharuum, the Hegemon. Otherwise, Panharmonicon has a home in any ETB deck and Insidious Will is a solid flexible counterspell. Authority of the Consuls and Angel of Invention found there way into my newly constructed Angel deck, mostly by being conveniently available at the time of construction. Armorcraft Judge might...might find it's way into my +1/+1 counter Animar deck, replacing Inspiring Call, but I think the later is still better with the indestructibility.
Otherwise though, I didn't really see much for EDH in this set...at least for my active decks...
I feel like Wizards really front-ended all the good value into those Inventions.
been thinking along the same lines
silverskin armor is epic with him i almost just wana play voltron with him since he protects his gear.
same with any of the boots that give shroud and hexproof
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
Find me at the Wizard's Tower in Ottawa every second Saturday afternoons.
It might be interesting in Animar or Jhoira or some sort of Grixis reanimator another deck where big expensive cards are playable.
Animar's also picking up Paradoxical Outcome.
Authority of the Consuls might see play in Oloro. It's not replacing Kismet or Blind Obedience, just one that turns all opponents' creatures into cantrips—for me. Filligree Familiar, Fumigate, and Noxious Gearhulk are also options in that deck.
Derevi might end up using Angel of Invention. Anthem, two tokens, and a flying body? ¡Me gusta!
Sharuum could use Padeem, Consul of Innovation.
Ghave might be getting Demon of Dark Schemes.
On the more mundane, Morbid Curiosity and Refurbish.
On phasing:
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Honestly, there's a lot of stuff I want from this set, some of which will immediately go into decks, others just because I may use it at some point. I expect to use up a fair bit of my PucaTrade credit picking up whatever I don't get from drafting.
Kurkesh red artifacts will get a combustible gearhulk when I can find one.
Glissa will get black gearhulk, the creature/artifact return thing, and that black thoughtknot. Probably the random guy that returns to hand from graveyard off of artifacts, and damage to all opponents from artifacts etc. Man theres heaps for her in here.
Dralnu gets the blue spellslinger enchantment thing.
Blue gearhulk, panharmonicon etc will just go everywhere as proxies once I pick up one legitimate one.
RRGrenzo plays your deck, GGYeva's mono green control, WW9-tails trys desperately for monowhite not to suck
RWBUTymna and Kraum's saboteur tribal, UWG Kestia's Enchantress Aggro, RUB Jeleva casts big dumb spells, RGB Vaevictis' big critters can kill your critters hard
Arena Standard
UUUU Tempo, since before it was cool
Various Wx decks running Fountain of Renewal and Day of Glory
Anything I can cram Chaos Wand in to
Built to Last, Built to Smash
Intet
Torrential Gearhulk, Combustible Gearhulk, maybe Glimmer of Genius as instant card draw, maybe Chandra, Torch of Defiance as additional mana/card engine,
Daxos (W/B)
Authority of the Consuls
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Skysoverign, consuls flagship also seems quite strong the problem is that as its not a creature I can't run through it in my Pod chain.
Dragonlord Ojutai: torrential gearhulk is a good option, the problem being is that I exile all graveyards whenever I can. so a maybe.
Deveri: Aetherstorm Roc
Zirilian: the dragon isn't strong enough probably nothing.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
Aetherstorm Roc - Boros Melee and Anafenza. The tapping matters in these decks and getting a low cost (for commander) decent sized flyer is good in my metagame.
Angel of Invention - Boros Melee and Anafenza. Seems very strong on paper, might actually be better in reality.
Fumigate - Dakkon Blackblade (esper landfall control). Just a good wrath.
Fairgrounds Warden - Anafenza. Just trying it out.
Master Trinketeer - Dromoka (everything tribal). All tribal lords get a shot in this deck.
Metallurgic Summonings - Mizzix. Obvious.
Torrential Gearhulk - Mizzix and Blue Braids. Seems good on paper, could be clunky and lame in reality.
Demon of Dark Schemes - Volrath and Erebos. Solid black control card that will occasionally whammy.
Gonti, Lord of Luxury - Dimir theafing (new deck). It steals, the deck is about stealing.
Noxious Gearhulk - Dimir Stealing, Volrath
Cathartic Reunion - Bartel Runeaxe, Ashling
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Ashling. might have to proxie that one.
Combustible Gearhulk - Ashling, Pia and Kiran Naalar. Seems pretty legit.
Pia Nalaar - Pia and Kiran Nalaar. Very fitting if a bit underwhelming.
Bomat Bazzar Barge - Pia and Kiran Nalaar. Vehicles seem fun.
Aetherworks Marvel - Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Buggin
Foundry Inspector - Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Metalwork Colossos - Braids, Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Panahamarnacon - Nissa, Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Buggin. Perhaps all green decks warrant this card.
In Progress
GBIshkanah, Grafwidow ~ BWGRTymna the Weaver & Tana, the Bloodsower ~ UGRashmi, Eternities Crafter ~ RGAtarka, World Render
Saheeli's Artistry - Will likely go into my Riku deck, the potential of four clones is interesting to have and works well with what the deck wants to do.
Panharmonicon - Oona relies on a lot of ETB effects with her Eldrazi Processors, so that's a natural fit.
Gonti, Lord of Luxury - Seem like something I might try in Oona as well, it exiles for the Processors but can also make that card be of use to me in other ways. Also, a deathtouch blocker ain't bad.
For a new Sek'Kuar deck that I'm building I will be getting Demon of Dark Schemes and Aetherworks Marvel, which will both have a nice place there.
Other then that I am getting Insidious Will just in case and Diabolic Tutor because I enjoy the new art on that.
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
Cataclysmic Gearhulk and Angel of Invention for Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas as more 5 cmc dudes.
Animation Module for Ezuri, Claw of Progress. Just an efficient xp generator.
Probably Panharmonicon, Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter and Cultivator of Blades for Ezuri, Claw of Progress as well. Cultivator seems quite good as she'll generate 3 xp on her own, then I can dump counters on her to boost the power bonus. I'd be happier if she gave trample but not everyone can be Pathbreaker Ibex. Oviya I'm not sure about but I'll test it out and see. Panharmonicon I'm also not too sure about but it seems strong.
Nothing for Mogis, Phenax, Drana, or Mizzix, though I am eyeing Metallurgic Summonings for the latter. Just don't know how I feel about tapping out to play it. Maybe as a "fairer" Show and Tell target than Omniscience...
EDH: -UG Ezuri-UGZegana-BRMogis-WUBRGRamos-WBREdgar-URLocust God-WUBRBreya-BMacar-WUBrago-WEvra-
Karador, Ghost Chieftain Shadownborn Apostles build
* Demon of Dark Schemes
* Aetherworks Marvel
Skullbriar, the Walking Grave +1/+1 army
* Noxious Gearhulk
* Verdurous Gearhulk
* Animation Module
Daxos of Meletis pillowfort Voltron
* Authority of the Consuls
Animar, Soul of Elements bounce house
* Panharmonicon
* Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
Purphoros, God of the Forge ping ya till ya bleed
* Panharmonicon
Building: Varina
Angel of Invention - This creature does both of the things that token decks want to do.
Cataclysmic Gearhulk - Strong in 1v1, brutal in multiplayer.
Wispweaver Angel - One of white's best ways of getting value is flickering its ETB creatures. Additionally doesn't have Resto Angel's non-Angel rider.
Blue
Dramatic Reversal - Cheap instants that can generate mana are good Firemind's Foresight targets.
Experimental Aviator - Eventually there'll be enough blue token generators to for a swarm deck.
Insidious Will - Flexibility is sweet.
Metallurgic Summonings - This card was made for me. I like that it adds non-infinite support for spell combo decks.
Padeem, Consul of Innovation - Still holding out for an Izzet artifacts-matter commander. I pick up cards for that deck all the time.
Paradoxical Outcome - This is a combo card I think. I don't know if I actually have a deck for it.
Saheeli's Artistry - Strong value
Torrential Gearhulk - Absolutely nuts in the decks that want it. I want to counter a huge creature for free with Overwhelming Intellect and this guy.
Black
Marionette Master - Four bodies on a single card with 2 or less power for Alesha or Grenzo. You could also pump this with Nightmare Lash or something and start doming people for a lot.
Midnight Oil - I have a soft spot for black enchantments that draw cards and have huge drawbacks. I'm not sure how this interacts with Reliquary Tower. Does the timestamp on this card consistently update?
Morbid Curiosity - Seems good for Kokusho and other commanders in black with death triggers. I keep thinking about using this with Goblin Dark-Dwellers to draw five for 3RR.
Red
Cathartic Reunion - Sick in graveyard decks, which are my favorite kinds of decks.
Madcap Experiment - Looks fun. Probably not good.
Quicksmith Genius - Wizards plz. Make URtifacts a thing.
Green
Armorcraft Judge - Solid roleplayer in +1/+1 counter decks.
Cultivator of Blades - Bodies and pump.
Nissa, Vital Force - Her ult looks so spicy and easy to achieve. Her +1 can untap Gaea's Cradle.
Multicolor
Cloudblazer - Sup Brago?
Rashmi, Eternities Crafter - Probably just a goodstuff commander. Picking her up on the off chance I want to build her.
Artifact
Aetherflux Reservoir - This is so cool.
Foundry Inspector - Cost reduction is good.
Key to the City - More looting options for white or red reanimator decks.
Panharmonicon - EDH is all about ETBs.
Inventors' Fair - I love spell lands and this one is so good.
On phasing:
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Blue and Green gearhulks, both are so busted imo.
The mana dork vehicle.
EDH: Xenagos, God of Revels.
At minimum Saffi gets Panharmonicon.
UBBreya's Toybox (Competitive, Combo)WR
RGodzilla, King of the MonstersG
-Retired Decks-
UBLazav, Dimir Mastermind (Competitive, UB Voltron/Control)UB
"Knowledge is such a burden. Release it. Release all your fears to me."
—Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Otherwise though, I didn't really see much for EDH in this set...at least for my active decks...
I feel like Wizards really front-ended all the good value into those Inventions.
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