I've also thoroughly enjoyed Anafenza rebels, and prior to that I was running an Intent Warp World deck that made for some very fun turns. I also play a Treva enchantress list that is all sorts of fun.
What I'm looking to do next is build something that feels different but isn't abusive or likely to draw hate on T4. I'm hoping to use an undervalued (or possibly just obscure and minimal value) commander and a strategy that I haven't used before.
So not tokens, not combo and not a commander likely to draw early hate. Can anyone recommend anything? I'm not looking for a list, just somewhere to start building from.
While I can't help much when it comes to recommending things that wont draw hate because everyone I play against starts the game like, "Everything Steven does is evil, kill him now." but I might suggest Rakdos, Lord of Riots. Most people wont think much of him and he's nothing like what you've been doing before. He's an aggro deck with enormous expensive creatures. Does playing Wurmcoil Engines, Soul of New Phyrexias, and Eldrazi for free sound good to you?
While I can't help much when it comes to recommending things that wont draw hate because everyone I play against starts the game like, "Everything Steven does is evil, kill him now." but I might suggest Rakdos, Lord of Riots. Most people wont think much of him and he's nothing like what you've been doing before. He's an aggro deck with enormous expensive creatures. Does playing Wurmcoil Engines, Soul of New Phyrexias, and Eldrazi for free sound good to you?
I'd been looking at Rakdos, but I wasn't quite sure where to start with the early damage. Do you recommend playing a few (10-15) direct damage instants i.e. bolt//shock etc. (is fireball with x = 1 worthwhile to get him down for 6) or are smaller creatures better for the early damage?
I'll throw out a vote for one of my personal favorites - Hua Tuo, Honored Physician. He's pretty inconspicuous but is capable of some incredibly broken plays and has an ability which is useful at all stages of the game. He's also very versatile, able to be built to suit any combination of aggro/combo/control play style.
I'll take a look at your Hau Tuo primer, I think that could be rathe interesting.
I want Rakdos on turn four as often as possible so I tend to use permanents I can get into play before then rather than things I need to spend mana on. Off the top of my head: Tormented Soul, Cunning Sparkmage, Vampire Nighthawk. Basically anything that is hard to block and or remove in the early turns. Once he's in play remember that X cost creatures like Grenzo, Dungeon Warden are nice but try to minimize your colored symbols. I think Hypnox is the only thing I run with more than two colored symbols.
While I can't help much when it comes to recommending things that wont draw hate because everyone I play against starts the game like, "Everything Steven does is evil, kill him now." but I might suggest Rakdos, Lord of Riots. Most people wont think much of him and he's nothing like what you've been doing before. He's an aggro deck with enormous expensive creatures. Does playing Wurmcoil Engines, Soul of New Phyrexias, and Eldrazi for free sound good to you?
I've played against him a few times, and what I found was that it was really easy for the player to cast Rakdos by turn 4, which means you're quickly facing down a 6/6 flying trampler, who is going to cast Eldrazi in their second main. I've learned to put lots of pressure on anyone who plays that general and make their life miserable before they make mine worse.
I've played against him a few times, and what I found was that it was really easy for the player to cast Rakdos by turn 4, which means you're quickly facing down a 6/6 flying trampler, who is going to cast Eldrazi in their second main. I've learned to put lots of pressure on anyone who plays that general and make their life miserable before they make mine worse.
Yeah that's what has happened to me but like I said it happens to me all the time. As I understand it RB is considered to have the worst commanders and the Lord of Riots is among the lower rungs. So at least once he wont draw any hate and it is definitely different from what he's been playing.
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden is himself an option if you want a Rakdos Commander who isn't as immediately threatening as Rakdos himself. He can accommodate either a beefy creature strategy, or a value creature strategy, and his scalable size gives you options in the late game, and even allows you to threaten Commander damage victories occasionally.
I am going to give Rakdos 2 a try but I agree that I can easily see him drawing hate from seasoned players. But I'm not sure exactly what my opponents are going to target, even if they know the possibilities.
Plus, it's a heck of a lot more fragile than a lot of the really frightening lists out there.
Currently my favorite list is my Karador which is more combo than good stuff. Lots of ramp culminating in Squandered Resources // Worms Harvest // Second Sunrise type turns.
I've also thoroughly enjoyed Anafenza rebels, and prior to that I was running an Intent Warp World deck that made for some very fun turns. I also play a Treva enchantress list that is all sorts of fun.
What I'm looking to do next is build something that feels different but isn't abusive or likely to draw hate on T4. I'm hoping to use an undervalued (or possibly just obscure and minimal value) commander and a strategy that I haven't used before.
So not tokens, not combo and not a commander likely to draw early hate. Can anyone recommend anything? I'm not looking for a list, just somewhere to start building from.
I'd been looking at Rakdos, but I wasn't quite sure where to start with the early damage. Do you recommend playing a few (10-15) direct damage instants i.e. bolt//shock etc. (is fireball with x = 1 worthwhile to get him down for 6) or are smaller creatures better for the early damage?
I'll take a look at your Hau Tuo primer, I think that could be rathe interesting.
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The more I think about the more I think I'll end up building Rakdos next. Your list does look like a lot of fun.
I had Maga in for a while but I took him out. I always ended up wanting to do something else.
I've played against him a few times, and what I found was that it was really easy for the player to cast Rakdos by turn 4, which means you're quickly facing down a 6/6 flying trampler, who is going to cast Eldrazi in their second main. I've learned to put lots of pressure on anyone who plays that general and make their life miserable before they make mine worse.
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Yeah that's what has happened to me but like I said it happens to me all the time. As I understand it RB is considered to have the worst commanders and the Lord of Riots is among the lower rungs. So at least once he wont draw any hate and it is definitely different from what he's been playing.
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Plus, it's a heck of a lot more fragile than a lot of the really frightening lists out there.
Here's what I've got...
1 Fire Diamond
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Coldsteel Heart
1 Sol Ring
1 Pilgrim's Eye
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Artisan of Kozilek
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Flame Rift
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Skullclamp
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Whip of Erebos
1 Erebos, God of the Dead
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Sepulchral Primordial
1 Plague Spitter
6 Snow-Covered Swamp
6 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Bitterblossom
1 Emberwilde Augur
1 Honden of Infinite Rage
1 Mana Vault
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
1 Geth, Lord of the Vault
1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1 Butcher of Malakir
1 Deathbringer Thoctar
1 Viscera Seer
1 Olivia Voldaren
1 Exhumer Thrull
1 Fiend of the Shadows
1 Bloodline Keeper
1 Harvester of Souls
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
1 Mephidross Vampire
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Necropolis Regent
1 Netherborn Phalanx
1 Nirkana Revenant
1 Nullstone Gargoyle
1 Archetype of Finality
1 Soul Collector
1 Vein Drinker
1 Badlands
1 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Blood Crypt
1 Bloodfell Caves
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Cabal Coffers
1 City of Brass
1 Command Tower
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Glimmervoid
1 Graven Cairns
1 Mana Confluence
1 Marsh Flats
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Sulfurous Springs
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Expedition Map
1 Staff of Nin
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Fire Bowman
1 Goblin Fireslinger
1 Fireslinger
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
1 Kyren Sniper
1 Mogg Fanatic
1 Vithian Stinger
1 It That Betrays
1 Knollspine Dragon