Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Along with a Lightning Bolt to use that infinite mana to kill people by reiterating it as much as you need to...
To add to these style of infinite mana combos, there's a couple more variations: Mana Geyser can fill in for Reset/Reiterate, though only gives R, likewise Brightstone Ritual and Battle Hymn with sufficient goblins/creatures. Nivix Guildmage can replace Reiterate as well as giving you the ability to draw your entire deck until you find a killspell to spend the mana on Izzet Guildmage can also work if you're using Reset for the mana
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Mind Over Matter + Arcanis the Omnipotent, or anything else that taps to draw more than one card. Pitch one to draw more, pitch the rest to untap manas. Make sure you have a reshuffle effect in your deck, such as an eldrazi.
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3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
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3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Does that work? I thought Rings couldn't copy mana activations...
I believe you copy the untap ability, not the mana ability, then tap it for mana between untap ability resolutions.
Tap Monolith for 3, pay 3 to activate Monolith's untap ability, pay 2 to activate Rings, tap Monolith for 3 after first Monolith untap ability resolves but before the second one resolves, tap Monolith for 3 again - net gain of 1 mana each cycle.
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And if for some reason the "opponent's turn" restriction on Reset is getting in your way, Firemind's Foresight can fetch Reiterate, a 2CMC win-con, and Mystical Tutor for Turnabout.
And if for some reason the "opponent's turn" restriction on Reset is getting in your way, Firemind's Foresight can fetch Reiterate, a 2CMC win-con, and Mystical Tutor for Turnabout.
Yeah, it's a pretty flexible combo. Comet Storm is a good target for the CMC2 part of Foresight.
Speaking of ways of fetching this combo:
Melek, Izzet Paragon in play, Mystical Tutor on top of the library, enough lands to produce 7 mana .
Cast the tutor, Melek copies it.
Copy resolves, putting Turnabout on top of your library.
Tap all you lands, Turnabout, Melek copies it.
Let one resolve, then tap your lands again and let the other resolve and tap out again. (you now have a big pile of mana in your pool)
Second Mystical Tutor resolves, fetching Mystic Retrieval
Cast Mystic Retrieval, Melek copies it, get Mystical Tutor and Turnabout back Mystical Tutor for Reiterate
Cast Turnabout and Reiterate it from the top of your library for infinite land untaps and thus infinite mana (including a bonus copy from Melek), finish with Reiterate back in your hand
Flashback Mystic Retrieval to return Mystical Tutor to your hand. Mystical Tutor for your wincon (anything instant or sorcery that damages players basically, you have infinite mana and a Reiterate in hand. I tend to just go for the simple old Lightning bolt)
i want to just point out, if you need colored mana Gemstone array can filter it.
This is probably one of the better ideas. Other ideas will work and should be run, but Rings and Monolith are good enough to run on their own, and if you get array out, you can use it to filer, but you can also use it to store mana for later.
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All of these "Let's eliminate bad cards" crusades are simply ignorant. And when they start to devolve into "WotC is conspiring to give us crappy cards," they just become embarrassing. MATH is conspiring to give you crappy cards.
i want to just point out, if you need colored mana Gemstone array can filter it.
This is probably one of the better ideas. Other ideas will work and should be run, but Rings and Monolith are good enough to run on their own, and if you get array out, you can use it to filer, but you can also use it to store mana for later.
rings is already a great card, I should put it in superfreinds as I can copy PW abilities.
Palinchron and either Deadeye Navigator or Phantasmal Image will do the trick.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Roon of the Pod People (Roon of the Hidden Realm)
Sydri, Super Genius (Sydri, Galvanic Genius)
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Retired:
Grimgrin's Corpse-Beats (Grimgrin, Corpse-Born) | Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge | Varolz, the Scar-Striped (1v1) | Glissa, the Traitor
Draft my Peasant Cube.
Along with a Lightning Bolt to use that infinite mana to kill people by reiterating it as much as you need to...
To add to these style of infinite mana combos, there's a couple more variations:
Mana Geyser can fill in for Reset/Reiterate, though only gives R, likewise Brightstone Ritual and Battle Hymn with sufficient goblins/creatures.
Nivix Guildmage can replace Reiterate as well as giving you the ability to draw your entire deck until you find a killspell to spend the mana on
Izzet Guildmage can also work if you're using Reset for the mana
Grim monolith works too.
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On phasing:
This combo also works with Siege-Gang Commander, Goblin Marshal, Myr Battlesphere, Palinchron, Great Whale, Peregrine Drake and anything else that brings in 2 tokens or more, or untaps enough stuff to pump in 5 mana or more.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Likewise, replace Wurmcoil Engine with Su-Chi for some old school awesome.
Mind Over Matter + Arcanis the Omnipotent, or anything else that taps to draw more than one card. Pitch one to draw more, pitch the rest to untap manas. Make sure you have a reshuffle effect in your deck, such as an eldrazi.
Any land that taps for 4+ (suck as Nykthos, or via multiple high tide, doublers, or whatever) + Rings of Brighthearth + Deserted Temple.
Rings + Everflowing Chalice/Astral Cornucopia + Voltaic Key.
Retired EDH - Tibor and Lumia | [PR]Nemata |Ramirez dePietro | [C]Edric | Riku | Jenara | Lazav | Heliod | Daxos | Roon | Kozilek
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
I believe you copy the untap ability, not the mana ability, then tap it for mana between untap ability resolutions.
Tap Monolith for 3, pay 3 to activate Monolith's untap ability, pay 2 to activate Rings, tap Monolith for 3 after first Monolith untap ability resolves but before the second one resolves, tap Monolith for 3 again - net gain of 1 mana each cycle.
And if for some reason the "opponent's turn" restriction on Reset is getting in your way, Firemind's Foresight can fetch Reiterate, a 2CMC win-con, and Mystical Tutor for Turnabout.
EDH Decks
BGGlissa, the TraitorGB
URTibor and LumiaRU
WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticBUW
UBSygg, River CutthroatBU
RGXenagos, God of RevelsGR
UGVorel of the Hull CladeGU
GBSavra, Queen of the GolgariBG
URGMaelstrom WandererGRU
Yeah, it's a pretty flexible combo. Comet Storm is a good target for the CMC2 part of Foresight.
Speaking of ways of fetching this combo:
Melek, Izzet Paragon in play, Mystical Tutor on top of the library, enough lands to produce 7 mana .
Cast the tutor, Melek copies it.
Copy resolves, putting Turnabout on top of your library.
Tap all you lands, Turnabout, Melek copies it.
Let one resolve, then tap your lands again and let the other resolve and tap out again. (you now have a big pile of mana in your pool)
Second Mystical Tutor resolves, fetching Mystic Retrieval
Cast Mystic Retrieval, Melek copies it, get Mystical Tutor and Turnabout back
Mystical Tutor for Reiterate
Cast Turnabout and Reiterate it from the top of your library for infinite land untaps and thus infinite mana (including a bonus copy from Melek), finish with Reiterate back in your hand
Flashback Mystic Retrieval to return Mystical Tutor to your hand.
Mystical Tutor for your wincon (anything instant or sorcery that damages players basically, you have infinite mana and a Reiterate in hand. I tend to just go for the simple old Lightning bolt)
krenko, mob boss and mana echoes plus either umbral mantle or sword of the paruns for infinite colorless. Add one of the following for Red: battle Hymn, brightstone ritual, or skirk prospector.
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
Gemstone array can filter it.
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This is probably one of the better ideas. Other ideas will work and should be run, but Rings and Monolith are good enough to run on their own, and if you get array out, you can use it to filer, but you can also use it to store mana for later.
MTGS egos at their finest.
Thoughts on proxies:
As is Lightning Bolt, which makes an Infinite Combo.
Jace, Memory Adept + Warp World + Mana Flare + Archaeomancer or Izzet chronarch
Jace can be cut, but it makes the combo more bothersome.
rings is already a great card, I should put it in superfreinds as I can copy PW abilities.
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