I admit, when I saw Sidisi for the first time, I was disappointed. However, reading this thread leads me to think she might be viable after all. All these interactions looks fun and strong, but not broken.
I'd make a basic reanimator deck. She just happens to ALSO give you 2/2 zombies in the process. Free graveyard filling + a free body out of it. Then stack up on Threshold and Reanimator cards. Stitch Together and Far Wanderings quickly come to mind. And then Living Death type effects. Grimoire of the Dead can also help fill up your graveyard for Reanimate targets. Also, things like Makeshift Mannequin seem to get overlooked. But an instant speed reanimation of a back-breakingcreature can be ... well back-breaking.
She has a token theme which will make her slightly different from Commanders like The Mimeoplasm, but not so much to make her exactly like Ghave, Guru of Spores either. I think you'll have to build her heavy on the creature side of things to ensure you get actual tokens. Or you can go spell-heavy and ignore the tokens and go full self-mill / reanimator / flashback / Yawmoth's Will. I think a combo of both will be best. Heavy on creatures with a handful of very special non-creature reanimator / flashback spells. She could be interesting, for sure.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
I like the idea of having Sidisi out with mesmeric orb and opposition. You get an ever growing lock on the players of the table until no one can do anything, then you just beat them to death with your tokens. It would happen really fast with prophet of kruphix out for sure.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Ever since Sidisi, Brood Tyrant was spoiled I've been looking at cards to use with her as an EDH General, and this thread has been an awesome find. Here are my thoughts:
Another notable card if you are playing mostly from your graveyard, and forgive me if it's been mentioned already, would be Body Double as it can be any one of your combo creatures if they've been dumped. Additionally any "Return target artifact from graveyard to hand/battlefield" cards are good here as well if you mill away a key card, especially if they have a body as at worst case they can function as zombie fuel. Myr Retriever comes to mind.
One of the things I like about Sidisi, Brood Tyrant is that she doesn't seem too threatening at first, and while she's assembling the combo/win she provides blockers. Round out the deck with a tidy removal/control suite and I think she could be quite fun to play.
Anyways this is my current approach for building her; can't wait to see what other lists start showing up and what other cards we'll get from Khans.
One combo I didn't see mentioned is Draw then Discard effects (or vice versa) such as that provided by Murder of Crows or Greater Good. For example: Sidisi + Greater Good + Dredge + Doubling Season = infinite zombies (in theory). Doubling season can be substituted with a number of cards like Extractor Demon for example, also Greater Good can be substituted with other effects such as Unfulfilled Desires of Compulsion to accomplish this combo as well.
She doesn't create zombies from hand discard, only from deck discard.
pretty sure he means because of dredge. dredge replaces the draw with milling + putting the dredge card into your hand, and then you discard the dredge card and can do it again.
it's kind of a cute trick with fa'adiyah seer and sindbad too (you don't discard the dredged card).
I'm not sure why he thinks you need doubling season, though, you can do fine with 2x dredge cards and "go infinite" that way.
Kinda surprised nobody here mentioned Mortal Combat yet. Because why settle for mere infinite combos?
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
The problem with mortal combat is that you have to play the song and yell "finish them" when you slam it down during the end step thanks to alchemist's refuge.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
GGG [Primer] Omnath, Big Green Beatstick Machine GGG
She has a token theme which will make her slightly different from Commanders like The Mimeoplasm, but not so much to make her exactly like Ghave, Guru of Spores either. I think you'll have to build her heavy on the creature side of things to ensure you get actual tokens. Or you can go spell-heavy and ignore the tokens and go full self-mill / reanimator / flashback / Yawmoth's Will. I think a combo of both will be best. Heavy on creatures with a handful of very special non-creature reanimator / flashback spells. She could be interesting, for sure.
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How could I forget Genesis! So good.
That's a really good one with altar of dementia. Seems like it would get out of hand fast.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
I've been trying to build more of a Combo and Graveyard based strategy; namely flipping my library upside down (often repeatedly, if you have Eldrazi Titans or Gaea's Blessing, or similar) for hordes of zombies into a Dread Return into Craterhoof Behemoth. The Cephalid Illusionist + Any 0 Equip cost mentioned earlier works well for this. To my knowledge only 3 such equipment cards exist, Lightning Greaves, Shuko, and Umbral Mantle, and I think a case can be made to include all of them. Lightning Greaves is solid in it's own right, Shuko is definitely the weakest, but can easily be tutored for via Trinket Mage, and Umbral Mantle can go infinite with Krosan Restorer or Viridian Joiner (Who would also produce infinite green mana) as a two-piece Basalt Monolith to be used in conjunction with Mesmeric Orb, and additionally a milling win-con with Altar of Dementia since Umbral Mantle will pump the creatures as well.
Another notable card if you are playing mostly from your graveyard, and forgive me if it's been mentioned already, would be Body Double as it can be any one of your combo creatures if they've been dumped. Additionally any "Return target artifact from graveyard to hand/battlefield" cards are good here as well if you mill away a key card, especially if they have a body as at worst case they can function as zombie fuel. Myr Retriever comes to mind.
One of the things I like about Sidisi, Brood Tyrant is that she doesn't seem too threatening at first, and while she's assembling the combo/win she provides blockers. Round out the deck with a tidy removal/control suite and I think she could be quite fun to play.
Anyways this is my current approach for building her; can't wait to see what other lists start showing up and what other cards we'll get from Khans.
pretty sure he means because of dredge. dredge replaces the draw with milling + putting the dredge card into your hand, and then you discard the dredge card and can do it again.
it's kind of a cute trick with fa'adiyah seer and sindbad too (you don't discard the dredged card).
I'm not sure why he thinks you need doubling season, though, you can do fine with 2x dredge cards and "go infinite" that way.
I've got a decklist up for sidisi here that uses a bunch of combos: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/572019-unleashing-the-power-of-sidisi
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.