MTG Salvation

Hello! I have a question about a better all around card. I am debating either keeping Jace, Architect of Thought or throwing it out and putting in Bribery... Any thoughts?

Bribery is way better, especially if you have some idea of what type of decks people are playing in your metagame. They are vastly different cards overall though. Jace is more of an incremental value engine, but Planeswalkers are pretty hard to protect in EDH. Bribery usually just takes the best creature in anyone's deck and puts it into play under your control, though you can also use it as a very flexible tutor to find the right answer to most situations, especially if your group plays as many ETB creatures as most groups do. I'd definitely go with Bribery unless you have a specific reason to play Jace.

Okay, thanks! When I can, I'll pick it up!

Yeah, they fill entirely different roles, they're just not at all comparable. That said, Bribery is pretty close to a blue staple, I don't think Jace is.

Bribery is almost always going to be the better choice. I suppose mana-curve considerations might sometimes cause you to favor CMC-4 Jace over CMC-5 Bribery, but in most metas and in most blue decks, Bribery is going to give you more value. Plus, Fact or Fiction and Sphinx of Uthuun are both better at the most important component of what this Jace does, and FoF is an instant while the Sphinx can be flickered/blinked for repeated value. I'd play either of both of them over Jace more often than not.

Very different cards but Bribery easily wins imo. "So you run Eldrazi? That is nice."

Only exception is if your deck has a good amount of drawpower and can chug out Doubling Season with relative ease. And even then, it's a hard sell, but in that case Jace AoT is definitely worth toying around with. (Though Tamiyo is a bigger win in that case.)

I have a LOT of drawpower and have Doubling Season, but even then the reason why I use Jace is his ultimate, and I was asking for a good comparison for just Jace ult. and Bribery.

if the only reason you have jace in is to doubling season-ultimate him, i don't think its really that worth it. you need jace to be able to hold his own if doubling season gets nuked/exiled/tucked/still in the library. bribery does hold it's own though and doesn't need a second card to make it work (you CAN radiate bribery though).

i dunno.. i mean how long is jace's lifespan when he comes down and DIDN'T get to ultimate? and does he do enough really? i dont think he'd last very long where i play, and we generally have pretty casually oriented decks.

i think the most anyone's ever gotten out of any planeswalker here would be nicol bolas, planeswalker, got to +3 once, then got killed, then Obzedat's Aided it back for another +3, then killed again.

You can't combo bribery with Doubling season and wheel of sun and moon!



But yes Bribery

It's really not close, Jace takes several turns and his +1 is largely useless in this format

yea bribery is instantly good where as with Jace you have to spend turns clocking him up and that's even if you manage to get his ult off theres a reason why one is $5 and one is $15