The ones im tired of is Roon/Derevi (especially if it's a lockdown deck..)
Oh and we just happen to have about 8 Mayael players, maybe even more.
We have abour 3-4 marath.
2 oloro (one is me but mine is not powerful imo.)
We got a bunch of monoblue goodstuff players.
2 jeleva.
Oh yeah, we got 4 sharum players.
Im tired of people that plays the generals from the commander products, thing is i myself play Oloro , Nekusar (well, im the only one that plays him, and yeah it's the typical draw ouch ouch build.), Ruhan (this is tribal giants..)and derevi (tribal birds, i do not have ANY combo with derevi Just a bunch of 1/1 flyers.) and when it comes to derevi, im the only one playing her atm.
I thought my general choices where more "unique" but here i am, rocking 4 decks that uses commander product generals.
Oh and i have an Adun deck (this is a theme deck, old cards only), Karn deck, Sliver Queen tribal deck (it's only me and another dude that uses her).
Oh and a Phage, Uril, and a really bad Darien Theme deck.
I've never seen any karn decks irl, just mine, that's kinda unique i guess.
I have to agree with most of these, especially the commander 2013 generals, although I think that will die down with time as different legends come out and people who just got into edh because of the 2013 product start to branch out.
The biggest issue I have with those generals and some others (like Edric or Animar or Omnath) is what some others have said which is that all the builds are 90% identical. One of the biggest attractions to edh for me what the sheer variety of cards that you could see played in any given game, crazy combinations of cards that you've never seen interacting before. But when players go into edh with a competitive mindset originality goes out the window and with it a lot of the fun.
So when I wanted to make Animar, I went elemental tribal. For edric, rogues and spies. For Oloro, no life-gain shenanigans but instead every mass removal spell I could find (he's ageless so I though mass-removal was an interesting theme for him). And for the mimeoplasm I built a poison/infect deck. By placing a thematic or tribal restriction on my edh decks it does makes them less competitive but way more fun to play, and at according to the group at my LGS, more fun to play against.
By placing a thematic or tribal restriction on my edh decks it does makes them less competitive but way more fun to play, and at according to the group at my LGS, more fun to play against.
It must be clear what the goal is.
Competitive decks tend to be "not fun" at some point, especially if they tend to do the same to win anyway.
Thematic decks soften this up, its just about fun and creativity.
Tribal is quite common to go.
Some even tryd to make decks of as less "artists" as possible.
A friend of mine has a "female deck", which only uses cards that have some form of female on its art (or a female artist).
ABC deck is also a challenge, to include at least 1 card for each letter in the alphabet.
Lots of options to make deck building more creative.
In a clear competitive world, decks will look very similiar.
I'm very surprised to not see a Sliver anywhere thus far. I know people hate my Sliver Overlord deck because I'm always targeted first and often even before the oloro player. And this even happens when I tell everyone that I do not play infinite combos and refuse to ever combo out. And I tell them that I am not playing changelings so they have no worry about me turning their creatures into slivers. In my experience, few generals are more hated than slivers!
I have to agree with most of these, especially the commander 2013 generals, although I think that will die down with time as different legends come out and people who just got into edh because of the 2013 product start to branch out.
The biggest issue I have with those generals and some others (like Edric or Animar or Omnath) is what some others have said which is that all the builds are 90% identical. One of the biggest attractions to edh for me what the sheer variety of cards that you could see played in any given game, crazy combinations of cards that you've never seen interacting before. But when players go into edh with a competitive mindset originality goes out the window and with it a lot of the fun.
So when I wanted to make Animar, I went elemental tribal. For edric, rogues and spies. For Oloro, no life-gain shenanigans but instead every mass removal spell I could find (he's ageless so I though mass-removal was an interesting theme for him). And for the mimeoplasm I built a poison/infect deck. By placing a thematic or tribal restriction on my edh decks it does makes them less competitive but way more fun to play, and at according to the group at my LGS, more fun to play against.
I went with a pure lifegain/lifeloss sacc theme with oloro. I think too many wraths is just preventing a game from happening. I do run about 4-5 wraths tho.
Im guitly of building a combo animar deck, but at that time i was just thinking of winning, now im the dude that tries to promote theme decks, no inf combos etc.
Bant generals in general tend to be decks based around nothing but goodstuff/flicker, which REALLY starts to bore me. So whenever I see a Bant deck, I get wary.
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
I'm very surprised to not see a Sliver anywhere thus far. I know people hate my Sliver Overlord deck because I'm always targeted first and often even before the oloro player. And this even happens when I tell everyone that I do not play infinite combos and refuse to ever combo out. And I tell them that I am not playing changelings so they have no worry about me turning their creatures into slivers. In my experience, few generals are more hated than slivers!
They're expensive to build and difficult to track down specific slivers. I'm imagining that Slivers, if Core set has a new 5 color legendary, will get more play. There are more building blocks to build an "okay" Sliver deck out of Time Spiral onward materials, however I do not see Sliver becoming really popular again until we get them into a new block.
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I'm very surprised to not see a Sliver anywhere thus far. I know people hate my Sliver Overlord deck because I'm always targeted first and often even before the oloro player. And this even happens when I tell everyone that I do not play infinite combos and refuse to ever combo out. And I tell them that I am not playing changelings so they have no worry about me turning their creatures into slivers. In my experience, few generals are more hated than slivers!
They're expensive to build and difficult to track down specific slivers. I'm imagining that Slivers, if Core set has a new 5 color legendary, will get more play. There are more building blocks to build an "okay" Sliver deck out of Time Spiral onward materials, however I do not see Sliver becoming really popular again until we get them into a new block.
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I think i manage to buy most slivers in 2 weeks of time. I started with Sliver queen, i think i have about 60+ slivers that i can use. I think i have 2-3 shocklands and some m10-12 checklands as duals, aswell as some tri colored lands. The deck is a budget deck at it does kinda suck, none of those optimal card choices.
And alot of the slivers went for 0, 20 cents i think, but there were a couple of slivers that were really hard to get, and i only checked the swedish market : ).
We got one dude that also runs sliver queen, but he's combo and he barerly plays it anymore, so nobody complains really.
Oy vey. Before I go on about this: I have honestly never played against a Nekusar except for one time, and the guy played his deck straight out of the box. So I can't really add him into the list.
Oloro - I played four people with this guy. The problem isn't really the life-regen, it's the fact that it's in the best control colors and they are either Insta-Win good stuff or life shenanigans. I wouldn't be so annoyed by him if people didn't play him as often.
Maelstrom Wanderer - I love this guy, I really do. Double Cascade (without the library manipulation) is like seeing what results you get from a slot machine. But my god is he overused here, and how people love to slap together Jokulhaups and Palinchron.
Teferi - Only one person plays him in one of my LGS, but it's one of those "Ugh, it's going to be this kind of game" scenerios. It's basically Counterlock and gain control of the board if no one teams up against the guy. Not really a "boring" general to play against. Stressful one? Quite.
i dont think ive ever seen anyone target the sliver deck at all as a 'must kill' or 'hate with a passion', like ever. theres always someone else more targetable, and even with the sliver queen whose combo-ability is pretty good, there is just someone else that'd get more hate first.
anyways, nekusar is my most tired of seeing commander of late. its just like everyone's already explained, its the exact same deck that is played worldwide. i'm sure there are some weird nekusar build that isn't built around wheels, but i've not seen it
I feel really lucky that my group has largely passed over Nekusar. I ran an old 60-card Underworld Dreams-Megrim deck back in the day and after a couple plays we were all done with it, including myself.
I play in a group with over 50 decks. It's interesting how much variety I see there even with me being a large grixis players. I have a Sedris(grave), Nekusaur(bear hug), Kemba(herp derp SWERDS), Zygana(budget, $75), Xira(Jund combos or shattergang lockout), Marath(combo) and I see an amazing amount more. So honestly I can't say I'm too bored with any of them. However I will say people hated my Thraximunder and Jaleva decks out of existence and apparently I'm not the only Nekusaur around(but I never see any others), so it's odd.
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WUG - Bant, BUW - Esper, BUR - Grixis, RGB - Jund, RGW - Naya, WGB - Necra, WUR - Raka, WBR - Dega, BUG - Ana, RUG - Ceta.
I've known them as this and always will.
I can't believe no none said Azusa, Lost but Seeking. When I was researching who I wanted to build next I always read that she was the most target Commander at the table. I know ramping is good but Mono G has heavy limitations, but I guess ramping into Eldrazi is lame after all.
I can't believe no none said Azusa, Lost but Seeking. When I was researching who I wanted to build next I always read that she was the most target Commander at the table. I know ramping is good but Mono G has heavy limitations, but I guess ramping into Eldrazi is lame after all.
Azusa isn't that annoying to me, unless the player gets a god hand. Azusa is fast, but easy to predict and falls to control. It's great against decks that are slower and are more casual. It's by no means a bad deck, but in a competitive group it'll probably die first. Azusa is the most targeted because she is so fast. She's one of those kill me now or I win generals. I would get tired of her if I saw her all the time. I get tired of most of the new generals, because I see them so frequently and because most of those decks are very similar. That's why I like that my decks are not top 50 generals.
I can't believe no none said Azusa, Lost but Seeking. When I was researching who I wanted to build next I always read that she was the most target Commander at the table. I know ramping is good but Mono G has heavy limitations, but I guess ramping into Eldrazi is lame after all.
I don't personally see enough Azusa decks to be annoyed with them. Mono-green is certainly a thing where I play but most people seem to have moved to other generals even if a lot of the basics are the same.
I can't believe no none said Azusa, Lost but Seeking. When I was researching who I wanted to build next I always read that she was the most target Commander at the table. I know ramping is good but Mono G has heavy limitations, but I guess ramping into Eldrazi is lame after all.
Azusa isn't that annoying to me, unless the player gets a god hand. Azusa is fast, but easy to predict and falls to control. It's great against decks that are slower and are more casual. It's by no means a bad deck, but in a competitive group it'll probably die first. Azusa is the most targeted because she is so fast. She's one of those kill me now or I win generals. I would get tired of her if I saw her all the time. I get tired of most of the new generals, because I see them so frequently and because most of those decks are very similar. That's why I like that my decks are not top 50 generals.
I can definitely get behind that. It is nice to see people use a General that I haven't even seen before.
Oh and we just happen to have about 8 Mayael players, maybe even more.
We have abour 3-4 marath.
2 oloro (one is me but mine is not powerful imo.)
We got a bunch of monoblue goodstuff players.
2 jeleva.
Oh yeah, we got 4 sharum players.
Im tired of people that plays the generals from the commander products, thing is i myself play Oloro , Nekusar (well, im the only one that plays him, and yeah it's the typical draw ouch ouch build.), Ruhan (this is tribal giants..)and derevi (tribal birds, i do not have ANY combo with derevi Just a bunch of 1/1 flyers.) and when it comes to derevi, im the only one playing her atm.
I thought my general choices where more "unique" but here i am, rocking 4 decks that uses commander product generals.
Oh and i have an Adun deck (this is a theme deck, old cards only), Karn deck, Sliver Queen tribal deck (it's only me and another dude that uses her).
Oh and a Phage, Uril, and a really bad Darien Theme deck.
I've never seen any karn decks irl, just mine, that's kinda unique i guess.
Oh yeah, Prophet is quite annoying.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
You can legally cast her all you want. She just kills you.
...unless you drop platinum angel or sundial of the infinite or torpor orb first.
The biggest issue I have with those generals and some others (like Edric or Animar or Omnath) is what some others have said which is that all the builds are 90% identical. One of the biggest attractions to edh for me what the sheer variety of cards that you could see played in any given game, crazy combinations of cards that you've never seen interacting before. But when players go into edh with a competitive mindset originality goes out the window and with it a lot of the fun.
So when I wanted to make Animar, I went elemental tribal. For edric, rogues and spies. For Oloro, no life-gain shenanigans but instead every mass removal spell I could find (he's ageless so I though mass-removal was an interesting theme for him). And for the mimeoplasm I built a poison/infect deck. By placing a thematic or tribal restriction on my edh decks it does makes them less competitive but way more fun to play, and at according to the group at my LGS, more fun to play against.
It must be clear what the goal is.
Competitive decks tend to be "not fun" at some point, especially if they tend to do the same to win anyway.
Thematic decks soften this up, its just about fun and creativity.
Tribal is quite common to go.
Some even tryd to make decks of as less "artists" as possible.
A friend of mine has a "female deck", which only uses cards that have some form of female on its art (or a female artist).
ABC deck is also a challenge, to include at least 1 card for each letter in the alphabet.
Lots of options to make deck building more creative.
In a clear competitive world, decks will look very similiar.
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I went with a pure lifegain/lifeloss sacc theme with oloro. I think too many wraths is just preventing a game from happening. I do run about 4-5 wraths tho.
Im guitly of building a combo animar deck, but at that time i was just thinking of winning, now im the dude that tries to promote theme decks, no inf combos etc.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
They're expensive to build and difficult to track down specific slivers. I'm imagining that Slivers, if Core set has a new 5 color legendary, will get more play. There are more building blocks to build an "okay" Sliver deck out of Time Spiral onward materials, however I do not see Sliver becoming really popular again until we get them into a new block.
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I think i manage to buy most slivers in 2 weeks of time. I started with Sliver queen, i think i have about 60+ slivers that i can use. I think i have 2-3 shocklands and some m10-12 checklands as duals, aswell as some tri colored lands. The deck is a budget deck at it does kinda suck, none of those optimal card choices.
And alot of the slivers went for 0, 20 cents i think, but there were a couple of slivers that were really hard to get, and i only checked the swedish market : ).
We got one dude that also runs sliver queen, but he's combo and he barerly plays it anymore, so nobody complains really.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Oloro - I played four people with this guy. The problem isn't really the life-regen, it's the fact that it's in the best control colors and they are either Insta-Win good stuff or life shenanigans. I wouldn't be so annoyed by him if people didn't play him as often.
Maelstrom Wanderer - I love this guy, I really do. Double Cascade (without the library manipulation) is like seeing what results you get from a slot machine. But my god is he overused here, and how people love to slap together Jokulhaups and Palinchron.
Teferi - Only one person plays him in one of my LGS, but it's one of those "Ugh, it's going to be this kind of game" scenerios. It's basically Counterlock and gain control of the board if no one teams up against the guy. Not really a "boring" general to play against. Stressful one? Quite.
Playtesting | Karador, Ghost Chieftain | Narset, Enlightened Master | Ephara, God of the Polis
Established | Gahiji, Honored One | Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker | Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo | Rubinia Soulsinger
Retired | Medomai the Ageless | Diaochan, Artful Beauty
any five color general
UBRThe MindrazerRBU
UUUSpymaster of TrestGGG
GGGThe South TreeGGG
RRRHuman AscendantRRR
Bant: Since Primordial got banned, now watch me blink Prime Speaker!
Nekusar: You think you're playing this game, really I'm playing solitaire.
Kaalia: guess what my first four turns will be?
Sharuum: It's not THAT Sharuum deck (yes it is you mindslaverin' $*$&*$).
and people that wait to see what deck everyone pulled out first.
Oh you're playing Oloro? I better get out my Erebos deck.
A Nekusar deck? Lemme see if I got that Gaddock Teeg built still.
HATE THAT with the passion of a thousand dying stars.
Luckily, in my main group you have to actually write down who you are playing when you sign up.
anyways, nekusar is my most tired of seeing commander of late. its just like everyone's already explained, its the exact same deck that is played worldwide. i'm sure there are some weird nekusar build that isn't built around wheels, but i've not seen it
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Playtesting | Karador, Ghost Chieftain | Narset, Enlightened Master | Ephara, God of the Polis
Established | Gahiji, Honored One | Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker | Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo | Rubinia Soulsinger
Retired | Medomai the Ageless | Diaochan, Artful Beauty
I've known them as this and always will.
Azusa isn't that annoying to me, unless the player gets a god hand. Azusa is fast, but easy to predict and falls to control. It's great against decks that are slower and are more casual. It's by no means a bad deck, but in a competitive group it'll probably die first. Azusa is the most targeted because she is so fast. She's one of those kill me now or I win generals. I would get tired of her if I saw her all the time. I get tired of most of the new generals, because I see them so frequently and because most of those decks are very similar. That's why I like that my decks are not top 50 generals.
My Saffi deck
I don't personally see enough Azusa decks to be annoyed with them. Mono-green is certainly a thing where I play but most people seem to have moved to other generals even if a lot of the basics are the same.
I can definitely get behind that. It is nice to see people use a General that I haven't even seen before.
I'm so sick and tired of them, especially those god damn swords of feast and famine