Right now, my win condition with the two of them is Vish Kal, the blood arbiter, but I'm looking for a more reliable win condition that doesn't require attacking. With that said, does anyone know of any cards that are manaless sac outlets with may cause my opponent to die?
Right now, my win condition with the two of them is Vish Kal, the blood arbiter, but I'm looking for a more reliable win condition that doesn't require attacking. With that said, does anyone know of any cards that are manaless sac outlets with may cause my opponent to die?
Altar of Dementia its a bit of a pain with eldrazi but if you have something like a Relic of Progenitus you can just keep on stacking the mills over top of the eldrazi shuffle and then nuke all graves.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Martyr's Cause is one of the classic sac outlets for Saffi combos (seeing as how it's free and in her colors). The fact that it's an enchantment is also usually a plus as it's a bit easier for WG to get than artifacts.
I think Altar of Dementia and Blasting Station are the only straight-up kills integrated into sac outlets. If you're running Reveillark and Karmic Guide then all you really need is an Acidic Slime or Brutalizer Exarch in the deck to have a recursive victory. Phyrexian Altar and Ashnod's Altar both get you infinite mana with any two of the three creatures, and Greater Good lets you mill yourself into other pieces.
Right now, my win condition with the two of them is Vish Kal, the blood arbiter, but I'm looking for a more reliable win condition that doesn't require attacking. With that said, does anyone know of any cards that are manaless sac outlets with may cause my opponent to die?
Anyway, Reveillark is good with Saffi. It works well in Ghave because you have so many creatures with 0 power and "CARDNAME enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters.", where N is a constant.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
Anyway, Reveillark is good with Saffi. It works well in Ghave because you have so many creatures with 0 power and "CARDNAME enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters.", where N is a constant.
Maybe I missed something but I don't see where there were color requirements (like it could be 5 color). If it is in fact for Ghave it doesn't mention that in the quote. It's certainly not a Vish Kahl deck because it runs green.
Hmm guess I should have mentioned it's a Karador deck. Preferably they'd be creatures so I can find them with tooth and nail, but these cards work as well.
Anyway, Reveillark is good with Saffi. It works well in Ghave because you have so many creatures with 0 power and "CARDNAME enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters.", where N is a constant.
Maybe I missed something but I don't see where there were color requirements (like it could be 5 color). If it is in fact for Ghave it doesn't mention that in the quote. It's certainly not a Vish Kahl deck because it runs green.
Or maybe I actually did miss something
It could be a BGW or five-color, but in my experience, five-color decks are hated off the board pretty quickly for some reason.
So that leaves BGW. Now, I was just saying how I do it in Ghave. Obviously there are different ones you might play in Doran, Teneb, or Karador, but Ghave decks tend to have the most fun abusing Reveillark. And Vish Kal, for that matter. (For Reveillark, Doran comes in second.)
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
Anyway, Reveillark is good with Saffi. It works well in Ghave because you have so many creatures with 0 power and "CARDNAME enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters.", where N is a constant.
Maybe I missed something but I don't see where there were color requirements (like it could be 5 color). If it is in fact for Ghave it doesn't mention that in the quote. It's certainly not a Vish Kahl deck because it runs green.
Or maybe I actually did miss something
It could be a BGW or five-color, but in my experience, five-color decks are hated off the board pretty quickly for some reason.
So that leaves BGW. Now, I was just saying how I do it in Ghave. Obviously there are different ones you might play in Doran, Teneb, or Karador, but Ghave decks tend to have the most fun abusing Reveillark. And Vish Kal, for that matter. (For Reveillark, Doran comes in second.)
I had an Altar of Dementia and Magister of Worth in a conspiracy draft. The interaction is interesting because you can sacrifice Magister of Worth before the voting happens and nothing can be responded to after the voting occurs. I managed to mill most of my deck into my graveyard by sacrificing all of my creatures to Altar of Dementia with Magister of Worth's ETB on the stack. The vote resulted in resurrection, because the majority had a solid board state. Magister of Worth entered again and I sacrificed all of my creatures including Magister of Worth to Altar of Dementia milling an opponent out of the game. I called for another Magister of Worth vote and this time everyone decided to wipe the board.
Goblin Bombardment comes to mind. Also welcome to the forums.
Blasting Station infinite damage.
Altar of Dementia its a bit of a pain with eldrazi but if you have something like a Relic of Progenitus you can just keep on stacking the mills over top of the eldrazi shuffle and then nuke all graves.
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i also have the reveillark/karmic guide pair
phyrexian altar/ashnod's altar
greater good
You might also like Saffi + Angel of Glory's Rise, also discussed in said deck.
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Sigged just for the obvious wrong.
Anyway, Reveillark is good with Saffi. It works well in Ghave because you have so many creatures with 0 power and "CARDNAME enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters.", where N is a constant.
On phasing:
Maybe I missed something but I don't see where there were color requirements (like it could be 5 color). If it is in fact for Ghave it doesn't mention that in the quote. It's certainly not a Vish Kahl deck because it runs green.
Or maybe I actually did miss something
It could be a BGW or five-color, but in my experience, five-color decks are hated off the board pretty quickly for some reason.
So that leaves BGW. Now, I was just saying how I do it in Ghave. Obviously there are different ones you might play in Doran, Teneb, or Karador, but Ghave decks tend to have the most fun abusing Reveillark. And Vish Kal, for that matter. (For Reveillark, Doran comes in second.)
On phasing:
wow you sigged this? jesus dude