The only thing worth getting is Sun Titan. This of course, is just my opinion.
What creature are you looking for when you bribery someone?
White - Sun Titan
Blue - Jin Gitaxius / C.Sphinx
Green - Avenger of Zendikar?
Black - Maybe Rune Scarred Demon?
Red - What's the point?
Colorless - What's the point?
Hybrid - What's the point?
Sure, there are some situations where Kiki-jiki could be really really good. And other things of course. I just don't really see a reason to run this card anymore.
Depends on the deck I love it in 1v1. If I'm playing combo probly better things to do with my own cards but it is a tutor you get selection I have a non green deck that LOVES prophet or seedborn muse for example not as competitive of a deck but bribe on green is almost always something good I like me some terrastodon.
You forgot Eldrazi and Blightsteel Colossus. Both can win you the game very quickly if you get an early Bribery. I've also enjoyed getting utility creatures like Oracle of Mul Daya if you just want to get a bit of advantage but not become a target.
I never ever go do BSC or Eldrazi. They don't do anything upon ETB and can easily be answered. Same goes for Jin and C.Sphinx, but there's a better chance to net cards off these things.
Oh no? A card that makes my opponents answer one of their own dudes, its not an auto I win button? I am not "trying" to sound like a jerk but your post is very "emo"
If you never played against someone it gives you info about their deck, if you have then you know one of the more valuable targets, if your opponent has any ETB creatures you KNOW who to target. Do I target the animar deck that uses creature more than spells or the Izzet deck that probably has more non-creature spells than anything.
Heck I went up against a Saffi deck and decided to bribery out his twilight shepherd so I could do it again then grabbed his woodfall primus so I could answer something else on the board, it was a very politic play but I don't see the reason to QQ because you don't think you get enough value off a card that steals a creature from your opponent and they literally have to kill it to answer it, if anything that is easily a 2 for 1 at best and if you don't like it, don't use it? There are many many value creatures to steal.
Deadeye Navigator can be a good card to grab. I was just be 5 drop Primeval Titan when that card was legal. Normally when I bribery someone I got for immediate value. In my Riku deck I've bribery-ed for eternal witness so that I could make a copy of it and return two cards. There are so many options because certain creatures can be good in so many different scenarios. If the creature has a cmc of 4+ and it's good enough to be in there deck, then it's probably good enough to bribery for.
Oh no? A card that makes my opponents answer one of their own dudes, its not an auto I win button? I am not "trying" to sound like a jerk but your post is very "emo"
If you never played against someone it gives you info about their deck, if you have then you know one of the more valuable targets, if your opponent has any ETB creatures you KNOW who to target. Do I target the animar deck that uses creature more than spells or the Izzet deck that probably has more non-creature spells than anything.
Heck I went up against a Saffi deck and decided to bribery out his twilight shepherd so I could do it again then grabbed his woodfall primus so I could answer something else on the board, it was a very politic play but I don't see the reason to QQ because you don't think you get enough value off a card that steals a creature from your opponent and they literally have to kill it to answer it, if anything that is easily a 2 for 1 at best and if you don't like it, don't use it? There are many many value creatures to steal.
lol. You don't sound like a jerk at all. It's more projecting than anything else. If you never played against someone and you find out there deck has almost no creatures in it and you're about to get blown out by some combo, then yeah, I guess it's really good? I'm more into sure things, not maybes. Sure, if I know someone is packing a Jin in their deck, Bribery would be awesome (if Jin isn't in their hand)... but I don't go slipping in cards in between matches. lol. My deck is build the way it is built and I want it to be able to beat the entire field with a sure thing...
I love this card especially when I know what my opponents are playing. I think my fave one ever was my friend who was playing Damia bug had just played an Avenger of Zendikar netting himself 15 tokens. I know next turn he is going to ramp so its kill him now or die. I Bribery him knowing that he had a.......Massacre Wurm in his deck, I snag it hit him for 30 (putting him at 5), equip a Sword of Feast and Famine and a Swiftfoot Boots, swing and win
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Oh no? A card that makes my opponents answer one of their own dudes, its not an auto I win button? I am not "trying" to sound like a jerk but your post is very "emo"
If you never played against someone it gives you info about their deck, if you have then you know one of the more valuable targets, if your opponent has any ETB creatures you KNOW who to target. Do I target the animar deck that uses creature more than spells or the Izzet deck that probably has more non-creature spells than anything.
Heck I went up against a Saffi deck and decided to bribery out his twilight shepherd so I could do it again then grabbed his woodfall primus so I could answer something else on the board, it was a very politic play but I don't see the reason to QQ because you don't think you get enough value off a card that steals a creature from your opponent and they literally have to kill it to answer it, if anything that is easily a 2 for 1 at best and if you don't like it, don't use it? There are many many value creatures to steal.
maybe a side thing but t-shep and woodfall p make pretty bad bribery targets on the whole as persist will return them to play under their owner's control :x
My meta plays giant, reliable dudes, that I would like to not see opposing me, and would rather have on my side. 3UU is a small cost for that effect. I Bribe for whatever the biggest threat is and/or whatever I can use at the time. It's worth it for me in almost any blue deck that doesn't have other plans, and often it's a win condition in its own right.
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maybe a side thing but t-shep and woodfall p make pretty bad bribery targets on the whole as persist will return them to play under their owner's control :x
Oh i understood that completely, they weren't the "best" targets for simply me but I was playing political, kind of a bandage over the wound. I knew he would get them back, but I wanted the utility. Sometimes just a slight move in politics can be colossal.
I don't own one, but everyone in my meta plays Homeward Path, so I personally don't want to pay 15 dollars to give my opponents half a Tooth and Nail. If you're not happy with it just replace it with a reliable threat of your own.
I have only acquired one copy of Bribery so far and it's in my Prime Speaker Zegana deck. My go-to Bribery target is Prophet of Kruphix nearly every time. The repeated untaps along with the ability to flash Zegana along with clones and tons of control options is just over the top.
Bribery is good in a meta where you know what people are playing. I've won grabbing a Kozilek with Bribery. Hell, I've cast it to grab someone's Woodfall Primus. It doesn't HAVE to win you the game. It's just all around good tech to have. It makes other people's decks a potential resource. What's not to love?
Yeah, i don't see the reasoning behind not using Bribery. Whatever your opponent's best creature is...it's now yours, and oftentimes 3 or more turns faster than he could have cast it himself. There is ALWAYS going to be a creature worth spending 5 mana on. Unless you're playing a streamlined dedicated combo deck that needs every single piece part of the combo or used as control, you play Bribery.
Bribery is pretty amazing. Anytime a "staple" creature of any color is really powerful for your deck and your deck has blue in it, you should be playing Bribery so you can steal it from other people's decks. For example, I'm building a Kruphix deck. Kruphix loves Seedborn Muse and Prophet of Kruphix. Lots of green decks run Seedborn Muse, and almost all green/blue decks run Prophet of Kruphix. It makes a lot of sense for me to run Bribery, as anytime someone at the table is playing either of those combinations I have effectively an extra copy of that effect in my deck. And if no one is playing green or green/blue, Bribery is still powerful because there are almost always other viable targets that benefit me nearly as much.
I get your point, but Bribery plays an important role. It keeps people honest with their creature selection. I personally love to try an punish people who play Eldrazi (don't run any myself) almost as much as I enjoy punishing people for playing Karoo lands. If an early Eldrazi gets answered...oh well, I lost a card for a shot at essentially taking a person out of the game with his own card. The value from making a person use up a board wipe or targeted removal is more than worth the trade-off. Also, you forgot Elesh Norn for a little late game love/value with white there can't even count the times that has happened...
I've grabbed Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Magister Sphinx, and a large variety of other things. That said, not a ton of people in my meta run Sun Titan, because unlike what seems to be the sentiment on this forum, we don't find it to be one of the best cards ever. It's strong, sure, but not "Oh, my god, why would I ever run anything over this."
I can't recall ever playing a 4 player match where bribery is lacking for good targets. At least one opponent is always playing some big powerful stuff.
Bribery is still very strong just because its a good toolbox card. Some of the most broken creatures in the game have been banned but its still strong because it is versatile and cheap. You can still tutor for an answer to a lot of situations if you know your opponents and their decks. I dont run it in every blue deck but there are a lot that I want access to a creature from my opponents deck for probably less than they would have to pay for it.
You should generally be using it for ETB effects or have a sac outlet up if its an ongoing effect or a huge eldrazi / blightsteel.
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If you never played against someone and you find out there deck has almost no creatures in it and you're about to get blown out by some combo, then yeah, I guess it's really good? I'm more into sure things, not maybes.
This is EDH. There are no sure things.
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What creature are you looking for when you bribery someone?
White - Sun Titan
Blue - Jin Gitaxius / C.Sphinx
Green - Avenger of Zendikar?
Black - Maybe Rune Scarred Demon?
Red - What's the point?
Colorless - What's the point?
Hybrid - What's the point?
Sure, there are some situations where Kiki-jiki could be really really good. And other things of course. I just don't really see a reason to run this card anymore.
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Seedborn Muse/Prophet of Kruphix
Jin Gitaxias or C Sphinx
Terastodon or Ashen Rider to deal with problematic permanents
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Blightsteel Colossus
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Like, are those really your top options up there? Unless you're targeting a monored player, there's tons of awesome things to get.
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I completely forgot about Ashen Rider. That card is a great target.
I'm not so into Avacyn or Iona, however Iona could be a blowout depending on what colors are on the board.
I still find Sun Titan to just be an all around amazing target for what I'm wanting to do.
If you never played against someone it gives you info about their deck, if you have then you know one of the more valuable targets, if your opponent has any ETB creatures you KNOW who to target. Do I target the animar deck that uses creature more than spells or the Izzet deck that probably has more non-creature spells than anything.
Heck I went up against a Saffi deck and decided to bribery out his twilight shepherd so I could do it again then grabbed his woodfall primus so I could answer something else on the board, it was a very politic play but I don't see the reason to QQ because you don't think you get enough value off a card that steals a creature from your opponent and they literally have to kill it to answer it, if anything that is easily a 2 for 1 at best and if you don't like it, don't use it? There are many many value creatures to steal.
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails, Faith & Wrath (Control)
Jarad, Life & Death (Reanimator)
Merieke, Seduction & Obedience (Control/Steals)
Intet, Dreamworld (Aggro/Control)
Rith, Predators (Aggro)
lol. You don't sound like a jerk at all. It's more projecting
than anything else. If you never played against someone and you find out there deck has almost no creatures in it and you're about to get blown out by some combo, then yeah, I guess it's really good? I'm more into sure things, not maybes. Sure, if I know someone is packing a Jin in their deck, Bribery would be awesome (if Jin isn't in their hand)... but I don't go slipping in cards in between matches. lol. My deck is build the way it is built and I want it to be able to beat the entire field with a sure thing...
You know what I miss. PT and SP.
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Darien, King of Dudes The swarm
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maybe a side thing but t-shep and woodfall p make pretty bad bribery targets on the whole as persist will return them to play under their owner's control :x
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails, Faith & Wrath (Control)
Jarad, Life & Death (Reanimator)
Merieke, Seduction & Obedience (Control/Steals)
Intet, Dreamworld (Aggro/Control)
Rith, Predators (Aggro)
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WBRTariel, Hellraiser StaxWBR
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You should generally be using it for ETB effects or have a sac outlet up if its an ongoing effect or a huge eldrazi / blightsteel.
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