I've never really played commander before besides 1 game vs a friend with the premade decks that were released earlier this year. As such I don't really know much about building EDH decks. I was thinking of building a G/U/R deck with Riku of Two Reflections as the commander and would like to include lots of cards that let me draw a lot and pump out creatures like Masumaro, First to Live and Soramaro, First to Dream with stuff like Reliquary Tower and Spellbook to give me no max hand size. I was also going to use Mirror Gallery so I can use Riku to make duplicates of these legendary creatures plus others I might include. I was also going to include Jushi Apprentice and use that in combination with cards like Sudden Impact to deal tons of damage to my opponent. I really like the idea of creatures being buffed by the number of cards in your hand and I wanted to run that in EDH and this seemed like the best commander to do it for multi-colored as I don't wanna just be stuck into monocolored for this.
I just want to know if this would be a good idea to run with or if it is too much stuff going on, and if it is good maybe some other card recommendations.
For spamming Maro variants, in my mind there really is only one general that shines ridiculously much: Prime Speaker Zegana.
Have a Maro in play, play Zegana, you draw cards equal to your hand and now all of your Maro's are twice as big. Sac Zegana to something like Greater Good. Rinse and repeat until you're holding most of your deck.
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Clone type creatures are good for this, as well as that red creature out of innistrad that has life equal to half the average opponents life. You probably don't need others drawing cards to make Multani huge btw most other decks generally packs some form of card draw. Also Prophet of Kruphix is one of the best cards in blue/green.
Venser's Journal is probably the best thing for when you plan on having a ginormous handsize. Also, if you're going RUG, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind will turn your many draws into damage (if you choose this route, Mindmoil and Basilisk Collar are rather fun with Niv). Decks dedicated to draw are also more susceptible to being milled out, so Psychic Spiral and Elixir of Immortality might be good ideas if your meta takes advantage of small libraries or big 'yards. Also, these Maro variants are likely going to be big old fatties, so if you're into some triggers with teeth, Warstorm Surge, Pandemonium, and/or Electropotence can be quite rewarding.
Ok, thanks for the help guys. I think I'm gonna run with this idea. I will most likely post here again when I have some form of the deck complete. I really like this idea so I hope it works out for me!
Going with RUG and big fatties-beatdown, I would definitely add a handful of trample/haste/hexproof/unblockable etc. outlets to the list. Nothing ruins the day better for the big fatty player than having your dude blocked by a 0/1 Eldrazi token or something every turn.
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Sounds fun. Riku is great at doing "big things" like what you are going for.
One tip that a lot of new EDH players need: Don't skimp on your early game. You want some decent action in the first 3 turns, whether it be ramp or answers. In your case it seems like including plenty of ramp would be ideal.
Going with RUG and big fatties-beatdown, I would definitely add a handful of trample/haste/hexproof/unblockable etc. outlets to the list. Nothing ruins the day better for the big fatty player than having your dude blocked by a 0/1 Eldrazi token or something every turn.
Could you recommend some good cards for this? I have Sleep to tap all of a players creatures and one or two enchants to make a creature unblockable, but besides that I can't think of any cards off the top of my head
Those from the top of my head/based on my own experience. Wonder, Anger and Brawn have the bonus that they are a chump blocker early on before you get started on the big 'uns.
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Oh, and my favourite ramp card, especially if your curve starts to look like any degree of high-ish: Recross the Paths.
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Ok, here is what my current make-up of the deck looks like right now. the 22x Islands are just fillers for the moment. Let me know what you guys think, Thanks!
I just want to know if this would be a good idea to run with or if it is too much stuff going on, and if it is good maybe some other card recommendations.
Thanks
Have a Maro in play, play Zegana, you draw cards equal to your hand and now all of your Maro's are twice as big. Sac Zegana to something like Greater Good. Rinse and repeat until you're holding most of your deck.
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If you haven't read it yet the decks building primers in here have a bunch of good do's and don'ts http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/204406-commander-resources-and-useful-threads
One tip that a lot of new EDH players need: Don't skimp on your early game. You want some decent action in the first 3 turns, whether it be ramp or answers. In your case it seems like including plenty of ramp would be ideal.
Could you recommend some good cards for this? I have Sleep to tap all of a players creatures and one or two enchants to make a creature unblockable, but besides that I can't think of any cards off the top of my head
^^ Quick search on gatherer for those. Pick and choose your favorite. =)
Also look into Rogue's Passage, Kessig Wolf Run, and Skarrg, the Rage Pits.
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Trample: I think Aquajolt above pretty much nailed some of the best, I'll just add Brawn here because cool elephant.
(Pseudo-)Unblockable: Aqueous Form, Prowler's Helm, Canopy Cover, Cloak of Mists, Gruul War Chant, Wonder
Hexproof/shroud (so your big things aren't so easily rid of): Alpha Authority, Asceticism, Archetype of Endurance (<3 that boar)
Those from the top of my head/based on my own experience. Wonder, Anger and Brawn have the bonus that they are a chump blocker early on before you get started on the big 'uns.
Agreed. It's pretty hard to go wrong with some combination of Peregrination, Kodama's Reach, Cultivate, Skyshroud Claim, Explosive Vegetation and the like.
Oh, and my favourite ramp card, especially if your curve starts to look like any degree of high-ish: Recross the Paths.
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1x Venser's Journal
1x Breeding Pool
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1x Hinterland Harbor
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1x Kami of the Crescent Moon
1x Laboratory Maniac
1x Lorescale Coatl
1x Malignus
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1x Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
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1x Overbeing of Myth
1x Palinchron
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1x Prophet of Kruphix
1x Psychosis Crawler
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1x Soramaro, First to Dream
1x Sturmgeist
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