I've toyed a bit with Act of Treason effects, there are loads of them ,and new ones will continue to see print(in few years act of treason.dec will be a thing!).
14 such effects in MONO-RED exist, if im good at maths/didn't miss anything
The effect is Real fun/effective unexpected.
The Sneak attack/quick damage can catch everyone by surprise
But they don't worth their slots , they gonna deal 6 dmg or so most of the times, or get a commander one shot kill. Funny, but not worthwhile
Unless you build around them.
Bazaar Trader is the card to go. so Red is in. maybe goblin tutors aswell.(heh, unexpected)
sacrifice engines(steal creature,attack , sac creature,get some other effect, win/win)
or Conjurer's Closer ?!!? wow, they aren't that weak of a card now..!
I toyed a bit in my Ashling the Pilgrim they were funny but too many slots and eventually cut them. The commander isn't fitting at all.
Im thinking about Sedris,The Traitor King it fits with his unearth(You will be using blink cards to keep unearth guys, like the closet, so why not keeping enemy's creatures aswell? Also black for sac engines etc...) Maybe it's a bit too far though.
Anywayz...! I am Looking for a commander to use Act of Treasons and the cards/effects mentioned above !(new ideas/synergies are welcome!!!)
So far i got
Ink-Treader Nephilim (insurrection per turn? Talk about a threat ,heh)not a legend?You're THAT GUY?!?! Sedris, the Traitor King (traitor king, get it? ^_^) Brion Stoutarm fling commander? Sure, but white sucks (<3) Tymaret, the Murder King now that's better... still nothing "Wow". bonus points for being a zombie
or just someguy mono red and devote the decklist to such effects...(kinda boring, is there anyone that matches the theme?)
like... Azamuki, Treachery Incarnate ..? SPIRITS AND ARCANE? IN MONORED? MEEEEEEH, actually he isn't THAT Bad, it can be made a deck, infinite source of treason effects...the bad thing is that you can't put more ki when he is flipped...but then you sac him...hmmm :3
You know what, I was thinking of exactly the same deck concept just this morning. I'm currently also thinking going Grixis with Sedris, the Traitor King, to abuse the abilities of Zealous Conscripts, Conquering Manticore, etc. I could also go Rakdos with Tymaret, the Murder King, which provides an always-ready sac outlet for stolen creatures. Blue does give permanent-stealing effects and Clone effects though, so I'm still thinking about that..
Theft.dec is definitely a thing. I always remember A.Minor's Thraximundar theft/sac deck. Grixis colors are perfect for stealing people's stuff and then sacrificing them for personal profit.
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Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.
I play a not inconsiderable threaten subtheme in my Aurelia the Warleader deck.
Getting two attack steps with a threatened creature is pretty nice. and she has synergy with bazzar trader and mass threaten effects
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.
Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
An odd choice, perhaps, but if you want to do something both different and potentially cool, go with Naya. Temporarily steal stuff with red spells/effects, then Birthing Pod what you stole to ramp into some huge threat. Combine with Mimic Vat to keep using the now-dead stolen thing, for extra value. White has artifact tutors to get the pieces in place, and artifact recursion and protection to improve the odds you can keep them around for a time.
It might make for an interesting variation on a Mayael deck.
I'm including a few red theft effects + sac outlets in my Nicol Bolas deck.
An odd choice, perhaps, but if you want to do something both different and potentially cool, go with Naya. Temporarily steal stuff with red spells/effects, then Birthing Pod what you stole to ramp into some huge threat. Combine with Mimic Vat to keep using the now-dead stolen thing, for extra value.
I did something similar to this but went with Bant and used Rubinia Soulsinger instead. Sure you lose red and those threaten effects, but you always have access to a steal effect with your general instead. It was a lot of fun stealing creatures and "Birthing Podding" them to something else.
Threaten used to be in Blue's color pie, so if you want to go deep on this effect, I suggest doing Grixis. That will give you access to all the great black sacrifice effects, as well as a full contingent of steal effects. Overtaker is horribly frightening when you have a Goblin Bombardment.
I had a deck built like this for a while. It was with Riku of Two Reflections. Not as much sacrificing their guys, but copying a threaten is pretty fun. You do get Greater Good, Perilous Forays, and I liked to run Feed the Pack. You also get some of the blue stealy stuff and green ramp. It was fun for awhile.
EDIT: Forgot to mention copying Regrowth is never bad, although I'm sure that's common knowledge.
My Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker ran a ton of Threaten effects. Running a bunch of sac outlets gets more value from your tokens anyway, so sac'ing their guys after Threaten is just a bonus. Stealing your opponents' good EtB guys (Sylvan Primordial) lets you kill enchantments in mono-red too (by copying the Threatened guy with Kiki-Jiki).
This deck was around before Prime Time got banned though. Damn was that powerful.
Green does indeed offer some nice toys. Only white sucks ,
I did build a Azamuki, Treachery Incarnate in the meantime, he is monored but he is TREACHERY INCARNATE!!
He isnt that bad at all, only if he did grant haste and untap the creatures...meh!! Still pretty alpha, i did almost win a 4 player game though. must update!
I second Kiki-jiki. I threw some in on the Kiki-Jiki deck I've been working on and it's been great. Stealing ETB effects and removal in red is powerful. Never thought of Baazar Traders though. Might use that and up the steal effects.
As for another suggestion, I'd imagine Gixis would be the way to go. You get Threaten, Clone, and Animate Dead. Why not go Lord of Tresserhorn? Steal some guys, sac them to the Lord, and go for general damage. No one would ever really expect it from him so you kinda get a low profile.
Anyways, good luck with the deck building!
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Sek'Kuar or any other jund legend really. Take them and sac them! Turn them into 3/1 hastes for you, use them to possessortron other cards, etc. Insurrection with a sac outlet is a Plague Wind.
I'd say that (in addition to red) you'll definitely want blue in this deck. In addition to giving you older threaten effects, it gives you enchantment-based permanent control, you also get blink effects to re-use cards like Zealous Conscripts. Also, you get Vedalken Plotter to gain control of any pesky Homeward Paths.
I'd say that (in addition to red) you'll definitely want blue in this deck. In addition to giving you older threaten effects, it gives you enchantment-based permanent control, you also get blink effects to re-use cards like Zealous Conscripts. Also, you get Vedalken Plotter to gain control of any pesky Homeward Paths.
Not sure how linking a decklist that does exactly what you described wanting to do in order for you to be able to glean ideas from it and start a shell of a deck for yourself is deemed not "useful" and worth poking fun at
14 such effects in MONO-RED exist, if im good at maths/didn't miss anything
The effect is Real fun/effective unexpected.
The Sneak attack/quick damage can catch everyone by surprise
But they don't worth their slots , they gonna deal 6 dmg or so most of the times, or get a commander one shot kill. Funny, but not worthwhile
Unless you build around them.
Bazaar Trader is the card to go. so Red is in. maybe goblin tutors aswell.(heh, unexpected)
sacrifice engines(steal creature,attack , sac creature,get some other effect, win/win)
or Conjurer's Closer ?!!? wow, they aren't that weak of a card now..!
I toyed a bit in my Ashling the Pilgrim they were funny but too many slots and eventually cut them. The commander isn't fitting at all.
Im thinking about Sedris,The Traitor King it fits with his unearth(You will be using blink cards to keep unearth guys, like the closet, so why not keeping enemy's creatures aswell? Also black for sac engines etc...) Maybe it's a bit too far though.
Anywayz...! I am Looking for a commander to use Act of Treasons and the cards/effects mentioned above !(new ideas/synergies are welcome!!!)
So far i got
Ink-Treader Nephilim (insurrection per turn? Talk about a threat ,heh)not a legend?You're THAT GUY?!?!
Sedris, the Traitor King (traitor king, get it? ^_^)
Brion Stoutarm fling commander? Sure, but white sucks (<3)
Tymaret, the Murder King now that's better... still nothing "Wow". bonus points for being a zombie
or just someguy mono red and devote the decklist to such effects...(kinda boring, is there anyone that matches the theme?)
like... Azamuki, Treachery Incarnate ..? SPIRITS AND ARCANE? IN MONORED? MEEEEEEH, actually he isn't THAT Bad, it can be made a deck, infinite source of treason effects...the bad thing is that you can't put more ki when he is flipped...but then you sac him...hmmm :3
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the clones/permament steals are kind of a different thing, i want the treason effects to be a star here.
i started a Azamuki list, actually the spirits of kamigawa offer some nice toys..
Noone has things to add? Kamigawa is better than this community it seems.
mkay.
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Steal your dude, attack, sac to Proosh, trigger Grave Pact.
This game is fun, right?
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Prossh is cute, but not exactly the direction i wanna go with this, prosh already has so many decks around him/is a great threat by itself.
thanks for your input
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Getting two attack steps with a threatened creature is pretty nice. and she has synergy with bazzar trader and mass threaten effects
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What is this even in reference to?
If you don't like Proosh then there's alway Tymaret, the Murder King or Lyzolda, the Blood Witch though both their abilities cost mana on top of what you're paying to Threaten something.
—Jaya Ballard, task mage
I already have those commanders in my first post, lyzolda seems kinda bad when you have tymaret.
Aurelia isn't a bad suggestion, not at all, 2 boros commanders...
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It might make for an interesting variation on a Mayael deck.
I'm including a few red theft effects + sac outlets in my Nicol Bolas deck.
I did something similar to this but went with Bant and used Rubinia Soulsinger instead. Sure you lose red and those threaten effects, but you always have access to a steal effect with your general instead. It was a lot of fun stealing creatures and "Birthing Podding" them to something else.
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EDIT: Forgot to mention copying Regrowth is never bad, although I'm sure that's common knowledge.
This deck was around before Prime Time got banned though. Damn was that powerful.
Yeh Rubinia is fun for this kind of use, i have her built . Birthing pod,mehehhehe.
i actually forgot about mimic vat, thanks
Overtaker is great! too bad he isn't red
i didn't know it was a blue effect, nice, Ray of Command Magus of the Unseen , interesting!
Green does indeed offer some nice toys. Only white sucks ,
I did build a Azamuki, Treachery Incarnate in the meantime, he is monored but he is TREACHERY INCARNATE!!
He isnt that bad at all, only if he did grant haste and untap the creatures...meh!! Still pretty alpha, i did almost win a 4 player game though. must update!
Thanks for all the people commenting here
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As for another suggestion, I'd imagine Gixis would be the way to go. You get Threaten, Clone, and Animate Dead. Why not go Lord of Tresserhorn? Steal some guys, sac them to the Lord, and go for general damage. No one would ever really expect it from him so you kinda get a low profile.
Anyways, good luck with the deck building!
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Rakdos, Lord of Riots; or a Dead Sprint to the Finish Line.
Zirilan of the Claw; or Dragon Toolbox of Hatred
ill stick to my AZAMUKIIIIIIIII the Deception for monored.
Lord, now that's a funny one. Sedris colors,
But how you will steal 2 creatures AND cast him? :l painful to do.
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I also like Diaochan, Artful Beauty for this strategy.
Since you can do so many other great things with it!
Diao, i have a deck around her on cocka with some of this strategy in it,
But she doesnt really offer anything new in this stategy : L i like her with indestructability and shroud.
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UBRSedris, the Necromancer KingUBR
GGG [Primer] Omnath, Big Green Beatstick Machine GGG
Grixis take-stuff seems cool. B is the other color you'd probably want, just for killing stuff and you can take things from libraries and graves too (Praetor's Grasp, Beacon of Unrest, Postmortem Lunge, Gruesome Encore) and you get Slave of Bolas too, which is easily the best Act-effect in the game.
UBRSedris, the Necromancer KingUBR
GGG [Primer] Omnath, Big Green Beatstick Machine GGG
Not sure how linking a decklist that does exactly what you described wanting to do in order for you to be able to glean ideas from it and start a shell of a deck for yourself is deemed not "useful" and worth poking fun at
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