I'd go more U/B proliferate, with Ichor Rats and Viral Drake, among others...and this still needs to compete against the slew of counters U has access to.
This card is so unplayable (even in Infect decks) that there's not much more to say about it. Yeah, even in an infect deck that ~can~ run this there are probably 15 counterspies better than this because... you know, you are playing BLUE!!
Yeah, in infect probably not too playable. Not that I have any experience in actually playing infect much.
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As Charles Barkley would say, this card is "trrrible". The Fact that the controller of the spell needs to have been poisoned (as opposed to just any opponent) makes this especially bad in multiplayer. It would need to cost , draw a card, and Proliferate for me to consider it with that restriction.
I'd go more U/B proliferate, with Ichor Rats and Viral Drake, among others...and this still needs to compete against the slew of counters U has access to.
I tried that in a Thrax deck with a counters theme. Bad at wincon was bad.
I love these sorts of cards that require you to jump through a bunch of hoops and then still give you nothing special. Making it even worse in multiplayer, you'd have to poison everyone before this became equivalent to a more cost-flexible counterspell. If they wanted to make this not-horrendous, they could have at least gone the route of stoic rebuttal or stubborn denial and make it sort of work without the condition.
I love these sorts of cards that require you to jump through a bunch of hoops and then still give you nothing special. Making it even worse in multiplayer, you'd have to poison everyone before this became equivalent to a more cost-flexible counterspell. If they wanted to make this not-horrendous, they could have at least gone the route of stoic rebuttal or stubborn denial and make it sort of work without the condition.
That would have basically made it a stronger counterspell when it was legal in Standard.
I love these sorts of cards that require you to jump through a bunch of hoops and then still give you nothing special. Making it even worse in multiplayer, you'd have to poison everyone before this became equivalent to a more cost-flexible counterspell. If they wanted to make this not-horrendous, they could have at least gone the route of stoic rebuttal or stubborn denial and make it sort of work without the condition.
That would have basically made it a stronger counterspell when it was legal in Standard.
I mean, make it cost 1UU or 1U if the player is poisoned. Or counter unless they pay 1, but hard counter if they're poisoned. Just so it's not utterly useless unless they're poisoned. You could tweak the costs or whatever to make it balanced. Or just make it cost U - it probably would still suck, but at least it would be notable (and might see fringe modern play).
Or how about this: Corrupted Conscience1U
Instant
Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
If that spell's controller is poisoned, counter target spell unless its controller pays instead.
It's basically Miscalculation minus Cycling plus the bonus if the opponent is poisoned.
You could have gone really deep and done something like this: Corrupted Conscience
Instant
Counter target spell with converted mana cost equal to X.
Corrupted Conscience costs less for each poison counter on that spell's controller.
With Mental Misstep in the same card file, I doubt R&D would have ever gone down that road.
Of course, I like my original idea: Corrupted Conscience
Instant
Counter target spell if it's controller is poisoned. Draw a card. Proliferate.
One of the few anthems for black (at least, the unconditional ones). Of course, being an older card this also boosts your opponents as well. Even though it was in the C14 precon, I don't know if I'd ever run it.
It's a bad anthem effect. I suppose it might be worth running in some sort of black weenies deck...? Unfortunately it nerfs Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker ability, but perhaps there are others.
Boosting others' stuff is bad. In black, you're almost always better off just playing effects that give your creatures evasion (fear, intimidate or shadow), or simply playing creatures that already have evasive abilities, since black doesn't exactly lack for those sorts of creatures. Even swampwalk can be better if you're playing Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.
Maybe for Zombie tribal but they already have so many lords that I'm not really sure the extra anthem effect is really needed, considering it doesn't have any tribal synergies and it isn't on a body. I think the fact that it is global isn't really much of a downside, though - the most popular version of mono-B is probably MBC and against multi-colored decks you'll get vastly more advantage. But that really just goes to show that most things getting played in EDH don't want this card, so...
This is a cycle. A loose cycle that took like, three years to complete, but a cycle. Black got Bad Moon, white got Crusade, red got Gauntlet of Might, blue got Sunken City, and green got twoembarrassments. I'd say black did best, and green was where they got a little too creative, if you catch my drift?
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Anthems are funny in EDH. It's like, it seems like you'd want this in a black token deck, but at the same time, it's so handy that your thrulls die to skullclamp without need for a sac engine, isn't it? Bad Moon doesn't really work as a part of a well oiled machine a lot of the time, because it is one of black's only anthems.
This is a cycle. A loose cycle that took like, three years to complete, but a cycle. Black got Bad Moon, white got Crusade, red got Gauntlet of Might, blue got Sunken City, and green got twoembarrassments. I'd say black did best, and green was where they got a little too creative, if you catch my drift?
Green did get Gaea's Anthem, though that is all creatures and is a colorshift rather than its own contribution to the cycle. I have been tempted to run Bad Moon in Zombie tribal too, but there is just too much competition in the 99 IMHO.
In the black precon this seems ok. I everytime my bro playes this it is a nuisance. I don't really want to use a card to get rid of it but 3/3 zombies and 6/6 demons are really dangerous.
Hmmm... well the artwork is good, the stats make it a great wall (and Phenax, God of Decption would love it), but that casting cost leaves a lot to be desired for something I have to continually recast. I feel like there should be a better card that does the exact same thing, but I just can't think of what it is. Damn... it's going to haunt me until I figure it out.
This is a definite contender for one of the worst cards ever created. It's a terrible wall, especially when compared to stuff like Fog Bank, which similarly fogs an attacker every turn but costs a third as much and doesn't require that you recast it each time.
I guess this can attack? At 0/6 though, that's hardly impressive.
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This card is so unplayable (even in Infect decks) that there's not much more to say about it. Yeah, even in an infect deck that ~can~ run this there are probably 15 counterspies better than this because... you know, you are playing BLUE!!
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I tried that in a Thrax deck with a counters theme. Bad at wincon was bad.
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That would have basically made it a stronger counterspell when it was legal in Standard.
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Corrupted Conscience1U
Instant
Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
If that spell's controller is poisoned, counter target spell unless its controller pays instead.
It's basically Miscalculation minus Cycling plus the bonus if the opponent is poisoned.
You could have gone really deep and done something like this:
Corrupted Conscience
Instant
Counter target spell with converted mana cost equal to X.
Corrupted Conscience costs less for each poison counter on that spell's controller.
With Mental Misstep in the same card file, I doubt R&D would have ever gone down that road.
Of course, I like my original idea:
Corrupted Conscience
Instant
Counter target spell if it's controller is poisoned. Draw a card. Proliferate.
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Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
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One of the few anthems for black (at least, the unconditional ones). Of course, being an older card this also boosts your opponents as well. Even though it was in the C14 precon, I don't know if I'd ever run it.
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It's a bad anthem effect. I suppose it might be worth running in some sort of black weenies deck...? Unfortunately it nerfs Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker ability, but perhaps there are others.
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Green did get Gaea's Anthem, though that is all creatures and is a colorshift rather than its own contribution to the cycle. I have been tempted to run Bad Moon in Zombie tribal too, but there is just too much competition in the 99 IMHO.
Hmmm... well the artwork is good, the stats make it a great wall (and Phenax, God of Decption would love it), but that casting cost leaves a lot to be desired for something I have to continually recast. I feel like there should be a better card that does the exact same thing, but I just can't think of what it is. Damn... it's going to haunt me until I figure it out.
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I guess this can attack? At 0/6 though, that's hardly impressive.
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