It could give you some arguing room in the political game as well. If there is an obvious aggressor at the table, you can point to your weakstone and possibly make an ally once they're aware that the weakstone is also benefiting them while they are being attacked.
It could give you some arguing room in the political game as well. If there is an obvious aggressor at the table, you can point to your weakstone and possibly make an ally once they're aware that the weakstone is also benefiting them while they are being attacked.
Yes.... my play on words. Totally intentional.
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It could give you some arguing room in the political game as well. If there is an obvious aggressor at the table, you can point to your weakstone and possibly make an ally once they're aware that the weakstone is also benefiting them while they are being attacked.
Yes.... my play on words. Totally intentional.
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You could say your play on words was a. . . hidden gem.
Weakstone is a little on the weak side for me. If it had the therm opponents then maybe, but as it is I can think of quite a few better pillow-fort cards in every color.
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I'm kind of surprised anyone is saying anything about this card besides that it's unplayable jank. 1/10.
Amusing considering weakstone has such a crucial role in the storyline, and is supposed to be so powerful. Mightstone is pretty awful too. Personally I'd take meekstone any day.
Los dos. Still not as bad as someone wishing me a prosperous butthole.
Anyway, as you're all saying, yeah, it's outclassed by so much.
Plus, Watchdog is a robot dog. The sheer cheese of that makes it cooler than Weakstone.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I think isperia, supreme judge deck might want all of this effect she can get, propaganda prevents attacking at all, except with a single large thing which is the exact opposite of what she wants it also prevents "must attack if able" effects such a deck might be playing. whille this just tries to lessen the damage. if you stack this small effect with a lot of other small effects of a similar nature (e.g that one where you gain 1 life for each attacker forgot its name). meekstone is great but prevents Isperia from attacking (i'd probably still play it)
I guess what I am saying is that its super narrow and super niche, you have to be doing something specific to want it.
I think I would rather play Accorder's Shield for free (same equip cost) and get vigilance, which is much better than being able to block an extra creature.
Yeah, Innistrad was rather piss-poor when it came to equipment. Of course, they had to be careful after the mess that were the SOM Swords of Cheap and Lame, so...meh. At least Deathtouchers like this.
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Weak card. As Lou said, good with deathtouch. Actually putting it in a deck, though? I suppose if I was building a deck specifically to maximize deathtouch effects, and including a range of equipment that works well with deathtouch.
I think the "can block an additional creature" effect is undervalued. This equipment isn't great, but throw it on protection guys like Mirran Crusader or things like Fog Bank and you can soak up twice as much heat.
Plus, Watchdog is a robot dog. The sheer cheese of that makes it cooler than Weakstone.
Oh, nonono, Watchdog is a clockwork dog. The card starts off with a crazy pun and leads you into a dark, dark alleyway where it makes demands that you really want to refuse.
Vanguard's Shield is crap. I've never considered it for limited or constructed.
Echo Circlet does the same thing, just with no toughness boost. If I had to pick between the two, I'd pick echo circlet. Probably would go in a pillow fort deck. Good on walls as mentioned above.
Meh. Bad card is bad. Strike one: it's blue. Strike two: it can't even damage an opponent. Strike three: it doesn't tutor land into play. I'd slot a basic land over this any day of the week.
I have nothing. There is nothing bad to say about this card, only about players who chain this and similar spells over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
Is capture really up to $400? *checks* Cool beans.
Extra turn effects are interesting because they can be absolutely broken or absolutely useless. I was discussing the new time warp it FRF with one of my mates, and we both agreed we probably wouldn't play it in limited. When you don't have anything exciting to do on your turn, it's basically just a free cantrip. But ofc in EDH you usually do have exciting things to do, and a few time warps can win the game pretty easily. Clearly an effect Richard Garfield underestimated.
Time magic, at worst, is "draw a card, untap all your permanents, play an additional land". Not a bad deal for 5cmc. I think I would usually play Temporal Mastery over this if I was just playing a single effect, but as a general rule I play either zero time magic or a lot of time magic. This always makes the cut in the later scenario.
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I love time warp it's the glue for many slower combo decks in the format slowing you to essentially do things for free. It's easy to chain these effects a few turns until
You find a winning line of play . While it's true resolving a time warp is never "bad" having a 5 drop clutter your opening hands or getting a cmc 5 card countered is not good. They also do easily clutter the 5 slot in your deck. That being said they are very powerful when they work and quite often game ending.
It could give you some arguing room in the political game as well. If there is an obvious aggressor at the table, you can point to your weakstone and possibly make an ally once they're aware that the weakstone is also benefiting them while they are being attacked.
Yes.... my play on words. Totally intentional.
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You could say your play on words was a. . . hidden gem.
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Amusing considering weakstone has such a crucial role in the storyline, and is supposed to be so powerful. Mightstone is pretty awful too. Personally I'd take meekstone any day.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
But if you're already playing one of them, "por que no las dos?"
There's also Briar Patch and Watchdog
Los dos. Still not as bad as someone wishing me a prosperous butthole.
Anyway, as you're all saying, yeah, it's outclassed by so much.
Plus, Watchdog is a robot dog. The sheer cheese of that makes it cooler than Weakstone.
On phasing:
meekstone is great but prevents Isperia from attacking (i'd probably still play it)
I guess what I am saying is that its super narrow and super niche, you have to be doing something specific to want it.
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GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
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I think I would rather play Accorder's Shield for free (same equip cost) and get vigilance, which is much better than being able to block an extra creature.
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Very niche, at best.
Managed to get this equipped to a Souls of the Faultless together with a High Ground on the battlefield. Guess what, no one wanted to attack me
Oh, nonono, Watchdog is a clockwork dog. The card starts off with a crazy pun and leads you into a dark, dark alleyway where it makes demands that you really want to refuse.
Vanguard's Shield is crap. I've never considered it for limited or constructed.
Hmm...Watchdog = Robot Dog? BRB, making Doctor Who deck.
Meh. Bad card is bad. Strike one: it's blue. Strike two: it can't even damage an opponent. Strike three: it doesn't tutor land into play. I'd slot a basic land over this any day of the week.
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Which is really the best reason to play it.
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Extra turn effects are interesting because they can be absolutely broken or absolutely useless. I was discussing the new time warp it FRF with one of my mates, and we both agreed we probably wouldn't play it in limited. When you don't have anything exciting to do on your turn, it's basically just a free cantrip. But ofc in EDH you usually do have exciting things to do, and a few time warps can win the game pretty easily. Clearly an effect Richard Garfield underestimated.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Strictly speaking, Capture of Jingzhou is a functional reprint of Temporal Manipulation. Time Warp can be redirected, whereas those two cannot.
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GTitania midrange
RGThromok tokens/goodstuff | UB Grimgrin zombie tribal
GW Sigarda enchantress | R Godo voltron
U Braids aggro | WR Kalemne punisher
RU Mizzix storm | BUG Mimeoplasm competitive reanimator | UG Ezuri infect
You find a winning line of play . While it's true resolving a time warp is never "bad" having a 5 drop clutter your opening hands or getting a cmc 5 card countered is not good. They also do easily clutter the 5 slot in your deck. That being said they are very powerful when they work and quite often game ending.
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