I was thinking more of an aggro deck although would that work with Ulamog?
Both variations of Kozilek are still generally regarded as superior to Ulamog because colorless has issues continuing to draw cards nicely. To get to enough mana to reliably cast eldrazi you generally need a very big ramp package and the Kozilek draw effects help offset the number of mana stones it takes to get there. I play the new kozilek and he is a lot of fun.
I think it can be done with Ulamog, I just think that in general his on cast effect is not going to get you as far as the kozelek options.
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Both variations of Kozilek are still generally regarded as superior to Ulamog because colorless has issues continuing to draw cards nicely. To get to enough mana to reliably cast eldrazi you generally need a very big ramp package and the Kozilek draw effects help offset the number of mana stones it takes to get there. I play the new kozilek and he is a lot of fun.
I think it can be done with Ulamog, I just think that in general his on cast effect is not going to get you as far as the kozelek options.
If you want to try something like that I would suggest someone else as the commander. Perhaps something like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Most colorless eldrazi commander decks have just a few other select eldrazi in the whole deck so if you want to increase the count I would suggest branching away from the deck being colorless.
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Imo, the shell of any colorless deck will be similar - lots of mana rocks. The other 20-30 cards that make it unique will define if you want tribal, combo, whatever. Eldrazi tribal is certainly a thing, but keep in mind that this will spike your average CMC really high. So draw spells are critical because you will empty your hand. Also, if you have any theft in your group you need to go out of your way to protect yourself. You'll be my first Bribery target most likely.
Imo, the shell of any colorless deck will be similar - lots of mana rocks. The other 20-30 cards that make it unique will define if you want tribal, combo, whatever. Eldrazi tribal is certainly a thing, but keep in mind that this will spike your average CMC really high. So draw spells are critical because you will empty your hand. Also, if you have any theft in your group you need to go out of your way to protect yourself. You'll be my first Bribery target most likely.
If you want to try something like that I would suggest someone else as the commander. Perhaps something like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Most colorless eldrazi commander decks have just a few other select eldrazi in the whole deck so if you want to increase the count I would suggest branching away from the deck being colorless.
I see, well going back to the previous topic,, is there anything not covered in the Kozilek primer that I should be aware of?
I see, well going back to the previous topic,, is there anything not covered in the Kozilek primer that I should be aware of?
You're probably going to get better results asking this kind of question in that thread. The people posting in there presumably have a little more specialized knowledge and not everyone posting in the decklist sub visits this thread on a regular basis. I know I've never played a colorless EDH list, so any advice I could give is probably wrong.
I just picked up the remaining Sneak Attacks I needed for my set so I can play a ridiculous looking deck someone put on the source that jams them into a nic fit shell. It looks like the most glorious EDH/cube/legacy mashup ever, even more than nic fit usually does. The god hand involves Veteran Explorer into Phyrexian Tower into Sneak Attack into Griselbrand or Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and if that doesn't sound like some of the best magic ever I'm not sure what we have to talk about.
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The typical game is obviously not going to play out like the god hand, but it still looks like a lot of fun. It's a Sneak Attack focused list with a backup plan of actually casting the things you want to Sneak in. The usual nic fit shell is already very powerful, if very metagame dependent, so mixing that with a way to quickly turn the corner seems promising. I'm sure it still needs a lot of tuning with the amount of things it's trying to do, but it looks like a fun deck to play around with.
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So how would tapping them for black mana help in a colorless deck or does Urborg allow you to tap more than once?
It doesn't help for those specific lands (unless in the case of Ancient Tomb you are that worried about the loss of life). Mono brown tends to run lands that can't tap for mana, like Maze of Ith or Mishra's Workshop, so with Urborg in play you can get mana if you absolutely need it. Plus, it is a land that taps for mana and comes into play untapped.
It doesn't help for those specific lands (unless in the case of Ancient Tomb you are that worried about the loss of life). Mono brown tends to run lands that can't tap for mana, like Maze of Ith or Mishra's Workshop, so with Urborg in play you can get mana if you absolutely need it. Plus, it is a land that taps for mana and comes into play untapped.
I see, so with Ancient Tomb I can tap it without losing two life?
My Chandra was a little off center but nothing crazy. What kind of miscuts are you getting?
The right border is almost completely gone and the card edge is at the picture. On one the left edge of the card is white because the misalignment is so vreat.
If you want to try something like that I would suggest someone else as the commander. Perhaps something like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Most colorless eldrazi commander decks have just a few other select eldrazi in the whole deck so if you want to increase the count I would suggest branching away from the deck being colorless.
If you want to try something like that I would suggest someone else as the commander. Perhaps something like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Most colorless eldrazi commander decks have just a few other select eldrazi in the whole deck so if you want to increase the count I would suggest branching away from the deck being colorless.
that's actually a pretty sweet idea use your tk seer to ramp into a big Eldrazi
If you want to try something like that I would suggest someone else as the commander. Perhaps something like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Most colorless eldrazi commander decks have just a few other select eldrazi in the whole deck so if you want to increase the count I would suggest branching away from the deck being colorless.
that's actually a pretty sweet idea use your tk seer to ramp into a big Eldrazi
Both variations of Kozilek are still generally regarded as superior to Ulamog because colorless has issues continuing to draw cards nicely. To get to enough mana to reliably cast eldrazi you generally need a very big ramp package and the Kozilek draw effects help offset the number of mana stones it takes to get there. I play the new kozilek and he is a lot of fun.
I think it can be done with Ulamog, I just think that in general his on cast effect is not going to get you as far as the kozelek options.
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I see so how would a tribal deck fair?
If you want to try something like that I would suggest someone else as the commander. Perhaps something like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Most colorless eldrazi commander decks have just a few other select eldrazi in the whole deck so if you want to increase the count I would suggest branching away from the deck being colorless.
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Imo, the shell of any colorless deck will be similar - lots of mana rocks. The other 20-30 cards that make it unique will define if you want tribal, combo, whatever. Eldrazi tribal is certainly a thing, but keep in mind that this will spike your average CMC really high. So draw spells are critical because you will empty your hand. Also, if you have any theft in your group you need to go out of your way to protect yourself. You'll be my first Bribery target most likely.
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I see, well going back to the previous topic,, is there anything not covered in the Kozilek primer that I should be aware of?
I just picked up the remaining Sneak Attacks I needed for my set so I can play a ridiculous looking deck someone put on the source that jams them into a nic fit shell. It looks like the most glorious EDH/cube/legacy mashup ever, even more than nic fit usually does. The god hand involves Veteran Explorer into Phyrexian Tower into Sneak Attack into Griselbrand or Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and if that doesn't sound like some of the best magic ever I'm not sure what we have to talk about.
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The typical game is obviously not going to play out like the god hand, but it still looks like a lot of fun. It's a Sneak Attack focused list with a backup plan of actually casting the things you want to Sneak in. The usual nic fit shell is already very powerful, if very metagame dependent, so mixing that with a way to quickly turn the corner seems promising. I'm sure it still needs a lot of tuning with the amount of things it's trying to do, but it looks like a fun deck to play around with.
You can tap them for their abilities or tap them for black as a swamp.
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So how would tapping them for black mana help in a colorless deck or does Urborg allow you to tap more than once?
It doesn't help for those specific lands (unless in the case of Ancient Tomb you are that worried about the loss of life). Mono brown tends to run lands that can't tap for mana, like Maze of Ith or Mishra's Workshop, so with Urborg in play you can get mana if you absolutely need it. Plus, it is a land that taps for mana and comes into play untapped.
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I see, so with Ancient Tomb I can tap it without losing two life?
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Ah alright, hank you very much.
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The right border is almost completely gone and the card edge is at the picture. On one the left edge of the card is white because the misalignment is so vreat.
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It's almost as if they're cutting these cards with...
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