I might use the Horizon lands in 2-colors deck, not 3+ colors. Starting with two or more of these lands in hand and you’d lose more life per turn than safe.
I'll run as many of these lands as I can fit into a color combo. Coming in untapped, tapping for multiple colors, and cycling late when you have an abundance of resources is a great place to be. The benefits of these vastly outweigh the life payment when you're starting at 40 life.
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I'd love to have a set of them for my 2C roster, especially since they're enemy ones.
If i'll actually pick them up will be a matter of price though. If they stay anywhere remotely close to the 20€ price tag they have right now i'll stay as far away from them as Trumpy Boy does from any sort of truth. Somewhere in between BBD duals and Shocks and i'll happily shop them.
Anyway, we got urza! Seems...fine? Good value? Not amazing imo, although there's probably some combo I can't see.
I think he's really really good. Goes infinite with thopter/sword combo, but is naturally good in artifact-heavy decks. Gives you board presence, mana production, and a way to finish off a table with infinite colorless mana.
He slots in as another cEDH quality Commander immediately. I know I'll be building a list for him sonce he can seamlessly function as the Commander of my Memnarch deck without losing any functionality. I like that he brings a body with him so you can block things or tap it for mana. I'm in love and I've already preordered a copy of him. If they print a Yawgmoth card, I'll be preordering that guy too. Urza, Yawgmoth, and Bolas are my favorite characters of all time, and I'll be happy to have an Urza deck to run alongside my Bolas deck for inner geek reasons.
If they do print a Yawgmoth creature card, my life will be VERY complete as a Vorthos player.
Lorewise, it's pretty cool that Urza has a bunch of abilities tied to cards that he's related to, and it's nice to see him actually have a card that isn't an Un card or a gimmick.
Game-wise, I can't say I'm overly thrilled to see yet another Absurd Mono-U Commander (TM), and will probably be sick of seeing him within, like, the third time seeing him played against me.
Oh well, still pretty cool from a Lore perspective.
I never expect them to print cards that go so well into my decks, but they do.
More modular creatures. Scrapyard Recombinator can get Metalworker and 4 other artifact creatures out of my deck, all while coming back every turn after saccing it to something or itself.
My buddy plays slivers. Guess I should add Mindbreak Trap.
EDIT: I am so excited for light tribal mechanics in this set. Scrapyard Recombiner searches for the Gearhulks, Stuffy Doll, Ballista,...a lot.
Etchings of the Chosen works best with tokens, I think, and I like that you don't have to target something of the same type with the indestructibility ability (Daxos can sac a token to protect himself!).
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
If i'll actually pick them up will be a matter of price though. If they stay anywhere remotely close to the 20€ price tag they have right now i'll stay as far away from them as Trumpy Boy does from any sort of truth. Somewhere in between BBD duals and Shocks and i'll happily shop them.
Anyway, we got urza! Seems...fine? Good value? Not amazing imo, although there's probably some combo I can't see.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
I think he's really really good. Goes infinite with thopter/sword combo, but is naturally good in artifact-heavy decks. Gives you board presence, mana production, and a way to finish off a table with infinite colorless mana.
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5 Color Tribal Guide (Slivers, Atogs, Allies, Spirits)
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Melira PodRIP 1/19/15GWHatebearsI mean, I'm sure he'll go into some breya decks and such, but as a commander he seems only good, not great to me.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
I'm no fan of playing stax or another mono-blue reversal-scepter deck though, so I've got no interest in him personally. But he is good.
Loving the horizon lands, fixes, comes in untapped and have an upside? Yeah, that goes straight into all applicable decks.
UGR Wanderer
UGB Tasigur Control
URB Jeleva Storm
RW Gisela Control
If they do print a Yawgmoth creature card, my life will be VERY complete as a Vorthos player.
UB Dralnu, Lich Lord
RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Game-wise, I can't say I'm overly thrilled to see yet another Absurd Mono-U Commander (TM), and will probably be sick of seeing him within, like, the third time seeing him played against me.
Oh well, still pretty cool from a Lore perspective.
I’m going to be furious if yawgmoth is not in the set
But be careful he might be bannable in edh
winter orb and null rod your the only one who can tap for mana
paradox engine and intruder alarm that’s infinite mana
All 0 artifacts are pretty much mox sapphire and that’s banned in edh and they can loop around stax cards like I mentioned
He’s definately on the Leovold, Emissary of Trest level commander you might win when he comes out he’s definately competive level
I agree with Cryo's sentiment he made over in the banlist dicussion thread about Urza being on the radar
ok whites involved decks can now have two momas now.
Mother of Runes, Giver of Runes, and Devoted Caretaker, Narset deck is safe from targeted spells and abilities.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
This set is just the best.
[Primer] Erebos, God of the Dead
HONK HONK
Hey, those of us with Ancient Tomb addiction... We're quite used to the consequences.
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
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More modular creatures. Scrapyard Recombinator can get Metalworker and 4 other artifact creatures out of my deck, all while coming back every turn after saccing it to something or itself.
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
EDIT: I am so excited for light tribal mechanics in this set. Scrapyard Recombiner searches for the Gearhulks, Stuffy Doll, Ballista,...a lot.
Etchings of the Chosen works best with tokens, I think, and I like that you don't have to target something of the same type with the indestructibility ability (Daxos can sac a token to protect himself!).
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'