No Kaalia players, we still don't like playing against you.
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
What do you guys think would be the best way to build The Scarab God? More of a Reanimator Shell? More of a Tribal Zombie Shell? I'm thinking some sort of hybrid using the best of both worlds. Should I be using Lords?
What do you guys think would be the best way to build The Scarab God? More of a Reanimator Shell? More of a Tribal Zombie Shell? I'm thinking some sort of hybrid using the best of both worlds. Should I be using Lords?
I generally vote zombie tribal, but I don't really know if that's best for efficiency.
What do you guys think would be the best way to build The Scarab God? More of a Reanimator Shell? More of a Tribal Zombie Shell? I'm thinking some sort of hybrid using the best of both worlds. Should I be using Lords?
I think a lot of people are paying too much attention to the zombie tribal facet. Scarab God is a solid general for a number of UB strategies, including straight control. Recursive, generates card advantage, GY hate. The second ability feeding the first frees it up a lot. I suspect you should still end up running some zombie tribal elements because the first ability is very strong, but looking at it as a strictly tribal general is selling it short.
New demon is interesting. My instinct is that Sidisi, Undead Vizier is still better as a commander with her much lower CMC, but this guy will likely be good as one of the 99 (particularly replacing Rune-Scarred Demon) as you're probably not paying the full mana cost for him...
I've been doing some brewing and The Scarab God is pretty nhutz. The most powerful effect on the guy is obviously his instant speed reanimating ability. You can do some pretty fun stuff like steal an opponent attacking creature via Sower of Temptation, Deny/draw a bunch of cards with Notion Thief, Counter a spell with Draining Whelk, the list goes on and on
Of course you want to take advantage of the first zombie ability too. That's where token generators like Overseer of the Damned come into play.
If your going for a mill plan then yeah good point. Idk if I want to go mill or not but obviously I need some way to put creatures into graveyards. I'll probably use more traditional reanimator methods.
What do you guys think would be the best way to build The Scarab God? More of a Reanimator Shell? More of a Tribal Zombie Shell? I'm thinking some sort of hybrid using the best of both worlds. Should I be using Lords?
And I agree that zombie tribal doesn't have to be the core of the deck either. He makes his own zombies, we only need a few staple, hard to kill ones to start the engine.
No Kaalia players, we still don't like playing against you.
Card seems quite bad in Kaalia, honestly. Since when does that deck make sac fodder?
It has a weird place where at 8 mana it wants to be cheated into play, but "cheat fatties into play" decks aren't usually token-heavy or go-wide decks.
I think Meren is probably his natural home.
Razaketh seems like a perfect inclusion for Gonti decks. The deck is already playing tons of cheap reanimate effects to recur Gonti so it can bring the demon back if he gets discard/milled but is also playing enough mana ramp to cast him naturally, and Gonti is always looking for strong, 0-mana ways to repeatedly sac Gonti, and getting a tutor out of the deal to find more reanimate effects or specific answers for opponent's threats seems incredible.
Raz is def going in The Scarab God. You get to reanimate him and give him bodies, all at instant speed. Bodies that will probably trigger some sort of ETB effect.
New demon is interesting. My instinct is that Sidisi, Undead Vizier is still better as a commander with her much lower CMC, but this guy will likely be good as one of the 99 (particularly replacing Rune-Scarred Demon) as you're probably not paying the full mana cost for him...
Normally through spoiler season I see new legendaries get spoiled and Im very impartial, as very few get me excited. But The Scarab God is a different story! Its the commander I didnt know I needed. A multifacted Dimir legendary that doesnt focus on mill!! Im excited to start brainstorming!
Genuinely pleased with this set so far with some of the serious haymaker rares and mythics being very powerful for the format. Would be nice to see some useful commons and uncommons spoiled soon.
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EDH BRGKresh the BloodbraidedBRG, A box of lands and ideas.
Modern: RG Titanshift. A deck made of cards too stupid for EDH.
Retired: Lots. More than I feel you should suffer through or I should type out.
Agreed, I've not seen anything worth a slot with the exert mechanic. Don't know how it's playing out in standard but it's very underwhelming in commander.
No Kaalia players, we still don't like playing against you.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Current Decks
GTitania midrange
RGThromok tokens/goodstuff | UB Grimgrin zombie tribal
GW Sigarda enchantress | R Godo voltron
U Braids aggro | WR Kalemne punisher
RU Mizzix storm | BUG Mimeoplasm competitive reanimator | UG Ezuri infect
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Side note: Neheb is the hero Lovisa deserves.
My Helpdesk
[Pr] Marath | [Pr] Lovisa | Jodah | Saskia | Najeela | Yisan | Lord Windgrace | Atraxa | Meren | Gisa and Geralf
I'm going to run Neheb in so many decks. Only 1 toughness off of surviving a Jaya Inferno.
Of course you want to take advantage of the first zombie ability too. That's where token generators like Overseer of the Damned come into play.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Current Decks
GTitania midrange
RGThromok tokens/goodstuff | UB Grimgrin zombie tribal
GW Sigarda enchantress | R Godo voltron
U Braids aggro | WR Kalemne punisher
RU Mizzix storm | BUG Mimeoplasm competitive reanimator | UG Ezuri infect
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Check out my thread:http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/778566-the-scarab-god-lets-brew
And I agree that zombie tribal doesn't have to be the core of the deck either. He makes his own zombies, we only need a few staple, hard to kill ones to start the engine.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Cycle Vedalken Æthermage into cycled Obstructionist for maximum lulz.
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
Card seems quite bad in Kaalia, honestly. Since when does that deck make sac fodder?
It has a weird place where at 8 mana it wants to be cheated into play, but "cheat fatties into play" decks aren't usually token-heavy or go-wide decks.
I think Meren is probably his natural home.
Draft my Peasant Cube.
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Oh, I definitely want him for Chainer, Dementia Master.
Scarab God shall eternalize her! (Or she could just be a generally awesome card)
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Wish it was a 2/1 or even 1/1 (or hell, 0/1) with the stifle as an etb trigger as well though
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
The Mimeoplasm || Karador, Ghost Chieftain
Prossh, Skyraider of Kher || Vial Smasher/Tymna Group Slug
Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief || Talrand, Sky Summoner
Yidris - Unblockable Saboteurs || Kiki-Jiki, ETB breaker
Kess, Dissident Mage
BRGKresh the BloodbraidedBRG, A box of lands and ideas.
Modern:
RG Titanshift. A deck made of cards too stupid for EDH.
Retired: Lots. More than I feel you should suffer through or I should type out.
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'