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Thanks, well in that case I'll nominate Tasigur, the Golden Fang and Leovold, Emissary of Trest
He's powerful, but I think him a bad card for the format overall, and thus very much not a "best" card. I don't think him quite awful enough to deserve banning, in part because nobody breaks Leovold unintentionally, but breaking him is so obvious and so easy that I wouldn't miss him if he did get banned. YMMV, particularly if you play in a more competitive manner or are part of a more competitive metagame.
Leovold can be broken, as can many many other cards. I suspect he is less broken than other cards running around the format but time will tell. At his best and most fair, he polices the decks that are trying to do broken things (drawing fistfuls of cards) while allowing more casual decks (particularly in red and white) to fight on a more even footing. Certainly that is how I prefer to play him.
I think there is room for some questioning if its a valid consideration in the 99. In the case of Leovold, Emissary of Trest, if you are already in those super specific colors running a lot of wheels with him not as your commander..... sure thats good but there is a bigger question how frequently you are overlapping his strategy in his colors with him not as your commander.
As a commander, I cant argue anything against him. I just feel like I have to really question how often he will work in the 99. I could be wrong but I always assumed this list was looking entirely at cards in the 99.
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Its entirely in the ease of access as well as the reliability in having him. If you run him in the 99 you have to tutor for him and if he dies / gets exiled its harder to set back up. In a lot of cases, as a commander you are going to give him more cards that have dedicated interaction with him because of the reliability in having him. If he is not your commander, its a lot harder to commit as much focus to the interactions that work with him.
This is what JKW was menioning about some of these legends that were nominated. I think so long as a legend is a generic good value card its fine to be on this list but there are definitely some legends that have entirely different power level when looking at them as a singleton vs as a commander. The more generic value a legend is the more likely that it would be fine for this list and the more niche build around it is the less it would be useful for this list.
Just as an example of what I am talking about. Look at Uril the Miststalker for example. If he is your commander its likely that you have a bunch of auras in your deck to play with him and you are pushing for commander damage. As a singleton though, you dont have commander damage and his synergy is with something niche. You might see him if you are playing a naya aura deck but how often is that what you are building and with him not at the helm of the deck. My point is sort of along those lines with Leovold, Emissary of Trest. How often are you really considering being in Simic colors and playing heavy wheel effects with him NOT as the commander. There is something to be said about how niche a card is and we want broad purpose cards which usually means cards that are good value on their own or that slot into a lot of other decks mostly on their own merits.
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Sidenote on Vexing Shusher, someone mentioned that it seems impractical to give every spell uncounterability for 1 mana each. I have found the Shusher to be relatively manaless. You cast your spell and only if someone counters do you respond by making the spell uncounterable. People see the Shusher, I cast a spell they ask if I want to make it uncounterable, I explain that I can/would/will respond to counters by activating it and people chose not to counter because they see the futility of it.
Leovold is a 3/3 for 3, a competitive rate, he disrupts your opponents significantly, and he even draws you cards. At the very least, he will often replace himself. For a 3-drop, it's difficult to do better.
My thinking on Leovold would be more along these lines...
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Leovold has enough already, so if you want to give something else some support you can.
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My bad, I thought it worked differently. I'll support Tasigur then.
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I was a little slow this week in keeping it updated, so if you weren't keeping track in the thread then it was easy to miss.
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That being said, I have no idea why Pilgrim's Eye is on the list, unless I'm missing something it seems like a budget filler card to me. No matter how I try to skew it, there's always a ton of better options. What deck actually wants it?
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