been looking into a ghave deck. thx for the help!!
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Ehhh... I need to do a big update to this. Hopefully I can perhaps next week. This week looks a bit busy at the moment to go through and do touchup work. I have several commanders I want to add to the front as well but they take a lot of time.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Also, when is Trostani being added to the list of token generals?
Trostani should be. I've been wanting to do a Treva Bant token deck with Trostani as the lieutenant. She's good already as Selesnya, but there's just so many more cards in Blue that can help make big tokens for Trostani to Populate.
lots of maintenance building up. I will see what I can do. For now just punch in requests as you have them and I will try to get to them. I think I did a lot of the R2R cards when it came out without updating commanders. Lots of stuff to update though.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Do you consider cards like Thragtusk or Call of the Conclave token producers? Or since they are one use, is that only incidental? I think that with things like Blink, Thraggy could be included. Call of the Conclave certainly works with things like Mirari and Fork.
You might need to acknowledge the new direction that token making is exploring, in copying creatures rather then making generic 1/1's.
With that said I am going to go through and simply post some opinions on Token cards out of RTR and GTC. Listed in semi-alphabetical under simply the word "Token" search.
Well, I can officially say that I have sucked at maintaining this page in the past 6+ months. Does anyone else want to take over this page and bring it up to speed? There is a lot that could be potentially added as well. If not I might just move it off to the archive because I am really bad about updating it.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
I'll read more of this later, but I can already see a problem with Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder as a general: With so much awesome stuff at 6 mana, including, you may note, Grave Titan (which is otherwise an immediate auto-include in black tokens), it's very easy to go overboard on thrulls.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
Good luck going forward with it. The thread is behind so you might have to go through the last several comments for feedback and update it. It also doesn't have the last two sets added to it. You can run it however you want so you can change how it is or run it as it is. Its up to you.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Was looking for some token generators I could use for my monoblack deck; noticed that Riptide Replicator was missing from the artifacts list.
edit: Blah, just realized the maintainer was suspended. Perhaps instead of a thread, this should be a wiki page instead? I can slowly work on it, if that sounds good for everyone.
So I've never necrobumped a topic before, but it looks like Gatecrash might have been the last time this thread was updated, and there have got to have been some new, interesting developments in the world of tokens since then. I don't know what's going on with this thread of it another version of it has popped up somewhere but the following cards seem highly relevant to its interests.
I noticed Fists of Ironwood is not in the list. It doesn't look like much, but when your general lacks evasion this card can do a lot for you. It's pretty solid in a deck with Sun Titan.
Hey guys, if I wanted to make a deck whose primary purpose was to make as many tokens as possible (non-infinite), what do you think the best strategy would be? I'm not talking about the best possible token deck, just creating the biggest zerg swarm imaginable.
Rith's charm should be on the list. The only card at 3 mana that gives 3 bodies. When you don't need the tokens you blow up a land!
I've noticed a sad trend of magic lacking relevant 2-4 drop token generating cards for EDH. I'm sure it's hard to balance, but I count these as the only ones that have a 1:1 ratio or better: Artifact mutation at 2 mana Rith's charm at 3 mana Increasing devotion at 5 and better at 9 mana
The closest thing we'd have to compare to one that works is siege-gang commander at a 5 drop. Only four bodies, but they can be used to kill off annoying threats.
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EDH Decks:
Kaalia's Army of AnnhilationRWB
Obzedat, Ghost Council - Life Gain MattersWB
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Fatty Reanimator ToolboxBG
Nekusar, the Mindrazer - Draw to DieRBU
Marath, Will of the Wild - Token Pump and TapGWR
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Blink to BleedWBG
Considering that it's been some time that this thread has been updated (and it's a shame since there's been no shortage of token friendly and token producing cards released), I think it should be time this thread gets a reboot with someone taking it over to do the necessary updates.
Considering that it's been some time that this thread has been updated (and it's a shame since there's been no shortage of token friendly and token producing cards released), I think it should be time this thread gets a reboot with someone taking it over to do the necessary updates.
I would also like to see it updated. It's missing several of the artifact token producers! Just a few off the top of my head:
edit: after a search I'm finding more. Some are more playable than others, but if you're going for a complete guide they should probably be included as many can be built around, and sometimes you just need some token artifacts to trigger your Disciple of the Vault or to skullclamp or to block with...
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alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
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Also, when is Trostani being added to the list of token generals?
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Trostani should be. I've been wanting to do a Treva Bant token deck with Trostani as the lieutenant. She's good already as Selesnya, but there's just so many more cards in Blue that can help make big tokens for Trostani to Populate.
Did you check??? DID YOU CHECK!!!!
ok... fine
lots of maintenance building up. I will see what I can do. For now just punch in requests as you have them and I will try to get to them. I think I did a lot of the R2R cards when it came out without updating commanders. Lots of stuff to update though.
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www.commandercast.com
Commandercast on Tumblr!
My EDH/Commander List:
Wedges:
Numot, the Devastator RWU
Damia, Sage of Stone GUB
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Olivia Voldaren
You might need to acknowledge the new direction that token making is exploring, in copying creatures rather then making generic 1/1's.
With that said I am going to go through and simply post some opinions on Token cards out of RTR and GTC. Listed in semi-alphabetical under simply the word "Token" search.
You also seem to be missing some of the older token producers such as Boggart Mob, Benthicore and Call of the Skybreaker.
Finally if you are really ambitious you could include a tribal section for including token producers in Goblins, Elves, Merfok, Myr, Oozes etc.
Love you info, not trying to complain, just contribute.
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On phasing:
Good luck going forward with it. The thread is behind so you might have to go through the last several comments for feedback and update it. It also doesn't have the last two sets added to it. You can run it however you want so you can change how it is or run it as it is. Its up to you.
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Volrath the FallenB Empress GalinaU Oona, Queen of the FaeBUAgrus Kos, Wojek VeteranRW
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EDH
Ghave
Phelddagrif
Omnath
edit: Blah, just realized the maintainer was suspended. Perhaps instead of a thread, this should be a wiki page instead? I can slowly work on it, if that sounds good for everyone.
GRW Mayael the Anima WRG
Token Production
2cmc
3cmc
Hammer of Purphoros
4cmc
5cmc
6cmc
7cmc+
Token Exploitation
1cmc
Barrage of Expendables (Probably worse than Goblin Bombardment)
3cmc
4cmc
5cmc
Maw of the Obzedat
Oh Rider, my heart will go on...
I'm pretty glad i found this, because I was designing a token deck and couldnt find lot of things nobody uses. Now we have everything in one thread.
UGB The mimeoplasm BGU
UBWSharuum the HegemonWBU
RUGAnimar, Soul of Elements GUR
BWGDoran, the siege towerGWB
GRBProssh, skyraider of kherBRG
UBRSedris, The traitor kingRBU
WRGRith, the awakenerGRW
Developing: Skullbriar zombies, Nekuzar Draw&Die, Zedruu enchantment control, Nath BG elves & 5C Slivers.
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I've noticed a sad trend of magic lacking relevant 2-4 drop token generating cards for EDH. I'm sure it's hard to balance, but I count these as the only ones that have a 1:1 ratio or better:
Artifact mutation at 2 mana
Rith's charm at 3 mana
Increasing devotion at 5 and better at 9 mana
The closest thing we'd have to compare to one that works is siege-gang commander at a 5 drop. Only four bodies, but they can be used to kill off annoying threats.
Kaalia's Army of Annhilation RWB
Obzedat, Ghost Council - Life Gain Matters WB
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Fatty Reanimator Toolbox BG
Nekusar, the Mindrazer - Draw to Die RBU
Marath, Will of the Wild - Token Pump and Tap GWR
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Blink to Bleed WBG
I would also like to see it updated. It's missing several of the artifact token producers! Just a few off the top of my head:
edit: after a search I'm finding more. Some are more playable than others, but if you're going for a complete guide they should probably be included as many can be built around, and sometimes you just need some token artifacts to trigger your Disciple of the Vault or to skullclamp or to block with...
and all the living weapons
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation