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I want you to post with what you think are the best multiplayer generals in EDH in 6 categories. By 'best' I am refering to the ability to win games.
For each category I ask that you vote no more than 5 entries. Having 1 vote or even zero votes for one or more categories is fine. Voting the same general in multiple categories is fine as well.
I will frequently update this thread as more votes are made.
*note: you can vote up to 5 times per category. Example: best combo: sharuum, zur, arcum, scion, oona. Best aggro: rafiq, uril, kaalia, etc.
Picking a decktype instead of a general (example: 5-color hermit druid, ad nauseum.dec) is okay too.
6) Vendillion Clique - I've played over 60 games with this deck against better players with top-tier generals. I've lost 2- once to a Thrun deck that barely beat me and was tuned to beat mono-U, and once to a turn 1 flipped Erayo with Force back-up followed by turn 2 Arcane Lab.
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~Categories~ (votes)
1) best combo generals: Sharum combo. It can be very fast done correctly
2) best aggro generals: Uril, the Miststalker. Enchantment removal being less common in my metas puts him here, with Zur getting H.M.
3) funnest generals to play with: Gaka (Norin....)
4) funnest generals to play against: Gaka
5) best control generals: Pretty much any Blue General. Azami gets my vote because of her being a draw outlet.
Hell, Emether has a Wydwen, the Biting Gale EDH that has tourney success through general beats.
Aggro Generals can win games.
Yeah, but that's for 1v1 in a 30 life environment. This thread is for multiplayer. Straight-up aggro pretty much stands no chance in multiplayer. Uril, Rafiq, and Jhoira are good, but chances are that they'll get hated out.
Here's my list:
1) best combo generals: Scion 5-color hermit druid
2) best aggro generals: Jhoira of the Ghitu
3) funnest generals to play with: depends on what you like
4) funnest generals to play against: same as #3
5) best control generals: Karador, Ghost Chieftain
6) best 1vs1 general: Radha, Heir to Keld
1) best combo generals: Acrum
2) best aggro generals: Uril
3) funnest generals to play with: Maelstrom Wanderer
4) funnest generals to play against: Blue Braids
5) best control generals: GAVII
6) best 1vs1 general: Edric
Fun is kinda a bad question, because for some people fun is stomping your opponents asap while for others it means zany long games. So the generals people pick will be all over the board. Favorite general to play against or with is more accurate and more likely what answers you are going to get anyhow.
And for people putting Scion 5-color hermit druid as best combo general... He is not a combo general that is a combo deck it is different.
1) best combo generals: Acrum
2) best aggro generals: Uril
3) funnest generals to play with: Maelstrom Wanderer
4) funnest generals to play against: Blue Braids
5) best control generals: GAVII
6) best 1vs1 general: Edric
Fun is kinda a bad question, because for some people fun is stomping your opponents asap while for others it means zany long games. So the generals people pick will be all over the board. Favorite general to play against or with is more accurate and more likely what answers you are going to get anyhow.
And for people putting Scion 5-color hermit druid as best combo general... He is not a combo general that is a combo deck it is different.
I actually agree with this list and comments. (except for Maelstrom because I haven't played him yet, but I can imagine he will be/is fun)
I haven't seen the 5 color hermit druid list, so I'm not sure if it's the best. Can anyone post link ?
Yeah, but that's for 1v1 in a 30 life environment. This thread is for multiplayer. Straight-up aggro pretty much stands no chance in multiplayer. Uril, Rafiq, and Jhoira are good, but chances are that they'll get hated out.
My Rafiq manages to do fine, but I do run other creatures to take up the mantle if I lose Rafiq.
I consider her to be aggro if you suspend an Eldrazi or some other big creature right after a suspended mass LD spell.
I call that combo. I most definitely do not consider a deck where the only creatures that come down before turn 6 are Jhoira of the Ghitu and Solemn Simulacrum aggro.
I call that combo. I most definitely do not consider a deck where the only creatures that come down before turn 6 are Jhoira of the Ghitu and Solemn Simulacrum aggro.
Well its not Combo. Combo wins on the spot. Jhoira does not do that. I would say its a control deck. one blue, and unsummon sets the game back to the start. I'm not saying that it is easy, but it is not combo. More like a very violent control deck...
What's he searching for? One of black's terribad combos that die to counterspells and spot removal and require a ton of mana? (And if you're recurring tutors with Xiahou-Dun it requires even more)
Arcum, Teferi, and Maralen are the only competetive mono-coloured combo decks. (beside Norin. Is Azami combo? I think shes more control than combo... idk...)
1) best combo generals: Sharuum the Hegemon
2) best aggro generals: Rafiq of the Many
3) funnest generals to play with: Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
4) funnest generals to play against: That hippo thing... I forgot what it's called, but I recall it being roughly unpronounceable
5) best control generals: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
6) best 1vs1 general: Vendillion Clique, even though I don't like playing anywhere near it
Oh, I thought he was talking about playing a spell that is countering a spell with counters on it as it comes into play, but I see you guys were just discussing whether he was flashing a creature with flash in order to flash a flashback or just flashing a creature with flash but not needing flash in order to flashback a spell without flash.
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Tonight I had a player (he's new) seriously ponder for most of the game on how to remove Norin. His solution was to avatar of woe him then spell crumple when I recast. He decided to spell crumple an insurrection instead. Moral: just the fact he causes people to brainstorm on how To kill him, for no reason at all besides just to kill him, proves Norin is the best.
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You may recall seeing, at some point in your Magic career, an obscenely powerful legendary creature called Norin the Wary. Gaka is the mad genius who unleashed his full potential and sparked a tidal wave of red trolls.
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I want you to post with what you think are the best multiplayer generals in EDH in 6 categories. By 'best' I am refering to the ability to win games.
For each category I ask that you vote no more than 5 entries. Having 1 vote or even zero votes for one or more categories is fine. Voting the same general in multiple categories is fine as well.
I will frequently update this thread as more votes are made.
*note: you can vote up to 5 times per category. Example: best combo: sharuum, zur, arcum, scion, oona. Best aggro: rafiq, uril, kaalia, etc.
Picking a decktype instead of a general (example: 5-color hermit druid, ad nauseum.dec) is okay too.
9x Sharuum the Hegemon
6x 5-color hermit druid (with scion, horde of notions, etc)
6x animar, soul of elements
4x griselbrand (banned)
3x arcum dagsson
2x damia, sage of stone
2x niv-mizzet, the firemind
2x zur the enchanter
1x krenko, mob boss
1x azami, lady of scrolls
1x ad nauseum storm
1x ghave, ghuru of spores
1x xiahou dun, the one-eyed
1x Oona, qheen of the fae
1x skithiryx, the blight dragon
1x captain sisay
1x gaddock teeg
1x jhoira of the ghitu
1x momir vig, simic visionary
#2) best aggro generals:
9x rafiq of the many
8x uril, the miststalker
4x kaalia of the vast
3x edric, spymaster of trest
2x thrun, the last troll
2x azusa, lost but seeking
1x gisela, blade of goldnight
1x jhoira of the ghitu
1x jor kadeen, the prevailer
1x stonebrow, krosan hero
1x the mimeoplasm
1x scion of the ur-dragon
1x zur the enchanter
1x godo, bandit warlord
1x rorix bladewing
1x ezuri, renegade leader
1x tolsimir wolfblood
1x rhys, the redeemed
5x norin the wary
2x maelstrom wanderer
2x zedruu the greathearted
2x ghost council of orzhova
2x captain sisay
1x azusa, lost but seeking
1x ashling the pilgri
1x phelddagrif
1x niv mizzet, the firemind
1x arcum dagsson
1x marrow-gnawer
1x karador, ghost chieftain
1x mistform ultimus
1x thada adel, acquisitor
1x dralnu, lich lord
1x karona, false god
1x gwafa hazid, profiteer
1x Mayael the Anima
1x shirei, shizo's caretaker
1x angus mackenzie
1x kaalia of the vast
1x vhati il-dal
1x eight-and-a-half-tails
1x wrexial, the risen deep
1x jharad, golgari lich lord
1x ghave, guru of spores
1x bosh, iron golem
1x horde of notions
1x momir vig, simic visionary
#4) funnest generals to play against:
5x phelddagrif
4x braids, conjurer adept
3x norin the wary
2x gaddok teeg
2x zedruu the greathearted
2x mistform ultimus
2x karona, false god
1x skullbriar, the walking grave
1x uril, the miststalker
1x omnath, locus of mana
1x doran, the siege tower
12x Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
5x azami , lady of scrolls
4x damia sage of stone
3x teferi, mage of zhalfir
3x gaddock teeg
2x vendilion clique
2x karador, ghost chieftain
2x child of alara
2x arcum dagsson
2x ertai, wizard adept
1x radha, heir to keld
1x the mimeoplasm
1x rafiq of the many
1x Merieke Ri Berit
1x Phelddagrif
1x azami, lady of scrolls
1x child of alara
1x zur, the enchanter
1x memnarch
1x ertai, the corrupted
1x momir vig
#6) best 1vs1 generals:
10x edric, spymaster of trest
8x vendillion clique
1x azami, lady of scrolls
1x zur, the enchanter
1x niv-mizzet, the firemind
1x gaddock teeg
1x radha, heir to keld
1x skullbriar, the walking grave
1x rafiq of the many
1x animar, soul of elements
1x geist of saint traft
1x 5-color hermit druid [scion]
1x isamaru, hound of konda
1x nin, the pain artist
1x uril, the miststalker
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My BUGWR Hermit druid BUGWR deck.
2) Aggro generals do not win games
3) Norin the Wary
4) Norin the Wary
Recommend to add control and 1v1 generals as 5 and 6 respectively, in which case I'd vote
5) Control gonna have to go with Damia, Sage of Stone or The Mimeoplasm for BUG, Rafiq of the Many for Bant, or Marieke ri Berit for Esper. The colors matter more than the deck here.
6) Vendillion Clique - I've played over 60 games with this deck against better players with top-tier generals. I've lost 2- once to a Thrun deck that barely beat me and was tuned to beat mono-U, and once to a turn 1 flipped Erayo with Force back-up followed by turn 2 Arcane Lab.
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What about Rafiq of the Many or Uril, the Miststalker.
Hell, Emether has a Wydwen, the Biting Gale EDH that has tourney success through general beats.
Aggro Generals can win games.
Votes soon:
~Categories~ (votes)
1) best combo generals: Sharum combo. It can be very fast done correctly
2) best aggro generals: Uril, the Miststalker. Enchantment removal being less common in my metas puts him here, with Zur getting H.M.
3) funnest generals to play with: Gaka (Norin....)
4) funnest generals to play against: Gaka
5) best control generals: Pretty much any Blue General. Azami gets my vote because of her being a draw outlet.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyYeah, but that's for 1v1 in a 30 life environment. This thread is for multiplayer. Straight-up aggro pretty much stands no chance in multiplayer. Uril, Rafiq, and Jhoira are good, but chances are that they'll get hated out.
Here's my list:
1) best combo generals: Scion 5-color hermit druid
2) best aggro generals: Jhoira of the Ghitu
3) funnest generals to play with: depends on what you like
4) funnest generals to play against: same as #3
5) best control generals: Karador, Ghost Chieftain
6) best 1vs1 general: Radha, Heir to Keld
2) best aggro generals: Uril
3) funnest generals to play with: Maelstrom Wanderer
4) funnest generals to play against: Blue Braids
5) best control generals: GAVII
6) best 1vs1 general: Edric
Fun is kinda a bad question, because for some people fun is stomping your opponents asap while for others it means zany long games. So the generals people pick will be all over the board. Favorite general to play against or with is more accurate and more likely what answers you are going to get anyhow.
And for people putting Scion 5-color hermit druid as best combo general... He is not a combo general that is a combo deck it is different.
I actually agree with this list and comments. (except for Maelstrom because I haven't played him yet, but I can imagine he will be/is fun)
I haven't seen the 5 color hermit druid list, so I'm not sure if it's the best. Can anyone post link ?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=290260&highlight=Hermit+Druid
To OP: Radha should be in 1v1 generals, and Karador should be in control list.
My Rafiq manages to do fine, but I do run other creatures to take up the mantle if I lose Rafiq.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething Spicy1. Damia, Sharuum, 5c Hermit Druid, Ad Nauseam Storm
2. Uril, Rafiq, Jor Kadeen (and Jhoira is not aggro...)
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5. Azami, Clique, Damia
6. Edric, Skullbriar, Rafiq infect
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I consider her to be aggro if you suspend an Eldrazi or some other big creature right after a suspended mass LD spell.
I call that combo. I most definitely do not consider a deck where the only creatures that come down before turn 6 are Jhoira of the Ghitu and Solemn Simulacrum aggro.
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UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
Well its not Combo. Combo wins on the spot. Jhoira does not do that. I would say its a control deck. one blue, and unsummon sets the game back to the start. I'm not saying that it is easy, but it is not combo. More like a very violent control deck...
1)Acrum, Ghave, Animar
2) Uril
3) Hyppo (not the hug, the aggro ETB)
4) Gaka's Norin (true challenge)
5) Teeg, Child (Pauper), Marieke
6) Edric, clique
Decks:
WUG Jenara, Asura of War
WR Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas
WU Lavinia of the Tenth
UR Mizzix of the Izmagnus
No. Not at all. But a Control deck, yes.
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What's he searching for? One of black's terribad combos that die to counterspells and spot removal and require a ton of mana? (And if you're recurring tutors with Xiahou-Dun it requires even more)
Arcum, Teferi, and Maralen are the only competetive mono-coloured combo decks. (beside Norin. Is Azami combo? I think shes more control than combo... idk...)
GRRWHazezon Tamar (Valakut)GRRW
UKami of the Crescent Moon (
Group Hug)UUHeidar, Rimewind Master [Mini-Primer]U
WKemba, Kha Regent (Stax)W
GEzuri, Renegade Leader [Primer]G
1) best combo generals: Sharuum the Hegemon
2) best aggro generals: Rafiq of the Many
3) funnest generals to play with: Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
4) funnest generals to play against: That hippo thing... I forgot what it's called, but I recall it being roughly unpronounceable
5) best control generals: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
6) best 1vs1 general: Vendillion Clique, even though I don't like playing anywhere near it
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1) best combo generals: arcum, sharuum, oona, 5-color hermit druid, animar
2) best aggro generals: azusa, rafiq, uril, mimeoplasm
3) funnest generals to play with: arcum
4) funnest generals to play against: blue braids
5) best control generals: momir vig, teferi, arcum, vendilion clique, azami
6) best 1vs1 general: vendilion clique, edric
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My BUGWR Hermit druid BUGWR deck.
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2) best aggro generals: Uril / Rafiq / Edric
3) funnest generals to play with: Marrow-Gnawer
4) funnest generals to play against: Any thing that isn't Chaos
5) best control generals: Zur / GAAIV / Damia (You have her listed twice on this one)
6) best 1vs1 generals: ??? I Don't really ever play 1v1.
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Tonight I had a player (he's new) seriously ponder for most of the game on how to remove Norin. His solution was to avatar of woe him then spell crumple when I recast. He decided to spell crumple an insurrection instead. Moral: just the fact he causes people to brainstorm on how To kill him, for no reason at all besides just to kill him, proves Norin is the best.
The EDH stax primer
When you absolutely, positively got to kill every permanent in the room, accept no substitutes.
Welcome to the forums. I was considering giving you a non-answer, but everyone should hear of Gaka's glory.
You may recall seeing, at some point in your Magic career, an obscenely powerful legendary creature called Norin the Wary. Gaka is the mad genius who unleashed his full potential and sparked a tidal wave of red trolls.
Agreed... You officially now have a cult....
And im terrified by that thought.
Also,
Gaka is officially an mtg card now, a general at that...
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