So, my buddies and I have decided that Tamanoa is too cool not to use as a build-around me general. Being that I have decided to pursue this deck, how would you, the community, go about building it? Suggestions?
I'd like to build around the general if I can, but I also have a competitive drive in EDH, and like to build powerful, efficient decks.
I wish I had more suggestions for you; I actually just wanted to mention that I hadn't even noticed Tamanoa wasn't a legend! It feels like one, doesn't it?
Tamanoa seems to be based on burn, one auto include should be Sunforger and all the good instants that belong to that package.
Burn decks are quite hard to play in EDH, GWR has very good enchantments and enchantresses, perhaps an enchantment theme could be worth playing. Pyrohemia and Æther Flash for example.
Looking forward to a decklist...
She really should be a general, its a unique ability!
Tamanoa is at the very top of my list of non-legendary creatures I wish were legendary. I have a somewhat irrational love of lifegain (when it's efficient enough to be justified) and I definitely love cards that can convert one resource or action into another.
If I were building around Tamanoa, I'd definitely want to include big, sweeping damage effects as others have mentioned. Pyrohemia, Brightflame, Bonfire of the Damned, etc. To complement that theme I'd also want to try and take advantage of the fact that my own side of the board will be taking collateral damage, with things like Vigor, Rite of Passage, Phytohydra, Sprouting Phytohydra, Spitemare, anything that helps me turn that self-inflicted damage into a positive. Gisela, the new RW Angel legend, also fits exceptionally well here.
^^ Yeah, you can't do pure burn. I mean, maybe you can but I'd expect it to suck. It ends up using a fair amount of enchantments. Like you'd be silly to not run stuff like vicious shadows. Over the game it does way more damage than any X point spell. Aether flash is one that I used to run in a casual multiplayer mass burn deck before edh existed. It's pretty good. Kills a lot of the utility creatures lickety split, and a lot of the generals. I've thought of adding mana flare, but its probably too dangerous considering it lets the blue players draw more cards. Here is my rw gisela list, which is as I said, the legal commander for this deck style:
Jinxed Choker. You don't gain when it damages them, but it nullifies the downside when you have it. Lightning Helix is also pretty good, as is any burn everything spell. I personally like the flexibility of Slagstorm and the finality of Anger of the Gods, but Flamebreak is also good. Again though Tamanoa is not a legend, so not necessarily legal as a general...
Mirari lets you copy your direct damage spells. You also obviously have a lot of copy spells in red.
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Such a great card... found a decent home for the spirit in my big mana/fireball-slinger Marath, Will of the Wild and have occasionally toyed with the idea of making Tamanoa the general instead if our playgroup would be okay with it (haven't really asked, heh).
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I just got approval to make a Tamanoa deck, so I'm super excited. Should be a lot of fun. I'll probably go mostly enchantress, with some tax and burn on the side.
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I'd like to build around the general if I can, but I also have a competitive drive in EDH, and like to build powerful, efficient decks.
Thanks for any help at all that I receive!
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and more
repercussion (this card will send all their attacks your way lol, so either have moat or glacial chasm in play)
brightflame (puts you so far ahead its not funny)
inferno
boon reflection
mana barbs
rolling thunder
comet storm
chandra the firebrand
mirari
earthquake
hurricane
doubling cube (for your comet storms etc)
gisela, blade of goldnight (in actuality this is the commander legal general you will end up using if you play mass gain-burn)
vicious shadows (burn kills stuff so why not kill them for having cards in their hand as well)
also tamanoa is, unfourtunately, not legendary and can't be used as a general, unless you guys have some house rules.
Lets hope he isnt playing paper, so that he can get the rolling earthquake for 80c instead of $120 lol
Yeah I play MTGO so I just make the assumption sometimes. It's not even playable in Eternal, wai so expensive?
And Rolling Earthquake is one of those annoying Portal cards. Anything from portal is ridiculously expensive.
After MTGO I don't really look back on playing paper. Tho I can see why some people don't get into MTGO.
EDIT: Combo fire servant with brightflame. Just went from 2 to 58. Imagine if tamanoa was in play.
Burn decks are quite hard to play in EDH, GWR has very good enchantments and enchantresses, perhaps an enchantment theme could be worth playing.
Pyrohemia and Æther Flash for example.
Looking forward to a decklist...
She really should be a general, its a unique ability!
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If I were building around Tamanoa, I'd definitely want to include big, sweeping damage effects as others have mentioned. Pyrohemia, Brightflame, Bonfire of the Damned, etc. To complement that theme I'd also want to try and take advantage of the fact that my own side of the board will be taking collateral damage, with things like Vigor, Rite of Passage, Phytohydra, Sprouting Phytohydra, Spitemare, anything that helps me turn that self-inflicted damage into a positive. Gisela, the new RW Angel legend, also fits exceptionally well here.
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1 Buried Ruin
1 Fork
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Crucible of Worlds
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1 Rolling Thunder
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1 Survival Cache
1 Martial Coup
1 Inferno
1 Devil's Play
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1 Oblivion Ring
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1 Pariah
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1 Fire Servant
1 Walking Atlas
1 Chain Reaction
1 Beacon of Immortality
1 Boros Garrison
1 Mind's Eye
1 Razia, Boros Archangel
ignore the razia, shes just a sub before gisela come out online
Etc.
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Mirari lets you copy your direct damage spells. You also obviously have a lot of copy spells in red.
On phasing:
Aggro: WUBRGHorde of Notions Goodstuff, RUB Cheesy Aggro, GR Xenagod Gruul Goodstuff
Control: GWBGhave, Guru of Adaptability, UBWrexial, Milling Deep UAzami, Lady of No Infinite Combos GWU Derevi, Tempo Beats
Other: URGRiku of Too Much Mana, WUBRG Sliver Queen Enchantress