So, I've been running this "go big or go home" theme in my head for a while now; specifically with Intet, the Dreamer as the general for his 'cheating into play ability'.
With the exception of powerful utility creatures like Eternal Witness, all my creatures at going to have big butts.
Now, I'm not looking for what creatures should be included (though that is always nice), but more so as to:
1) How to cheat them into play
2) How to get them back into play directly from the graveyard
3) How to control the top of my library so that I choose when they go into play
4) Any information as to 'how' I should be playing a 'go big or go home' deck.
...not only is the total number of players expanding very quickly, but at the same time a greater and greater number of those players are being pushed to only desire a small subset of the available cards. These combined forces drastically increase demand for those cards and cause the values of just those specific cards to often balloon out of proportion.
Now, I'm not looking for what creatures should be included
Sneak Attack might merit testing. Obviously JTMS can throw stuff back on top; maybe even try Noxious Revival (and variants) for easy recursion off an Intet activation?
EDIT: Didn't see that Rickston already had Reclaim variants listed.
Add in Paleoloth for extra hilarity as long as you're using 5+ power dudes, which doesn't sound like a problem for this build. It's a pretty hilarious board state.
I'll also second Call of the Wild and throw Impromptu Raid out there. You need to run some pretty heavy recursion to make use of most of these, but Reclaim and variants are already on theme.
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Guided Passage just because it's a favorite of mine and in your colors. Also if you are running a very narrow type of deck, it will likely fetch you bombs. For example if all you are running for creatures is bib baddies and eternal witness you wont get screwed on something like Birds of Paradise. Same with non land, non creature cards. You probably would get something to cheat a creature into play.
@RickstonSlade Elvish Piper and Chaos Warp probably cost too much for my budget; but I'll consider them. Djinn of Wishes: This guy looks AWESOME, as I am attempting to control the top of my library anyways. Artisan of Kozilek: Despite not liking the annhiliator mechanic, this guy WILL be going in. He's BIG! He returns another BIG from the G/Y.
As for topdeck-control, those one shots will all be added....the cheap ones anyways.
As to putting them into my hand.....it means recasting them. Want to try save some mana.
@Edelmdor
Very interesting build. Will definately take a closer look into it to see what I can gleen and offer. Really like the Omen Machine and Wild Evocation effects....so long as I am able to output bigger/more powerful cards.
@CobraShuttle Guilded Passage doesn't even have to be mentioned. It's obviously going in....simply because it must; Opponent picks the 3 'worst' cards in your 100 best cards deck? Yes please.
@SuperSonik Body Double is definately going into the build. Thanks for reminding me of it.
Wow! Great input so far. Decklist has is being conceptualized and I'll have a 'work in progress' post soon enough. Keep the brainstorming coming.
I'm also beginning to tackle the problems this type of deck might face. The obvious problem will be to play against fast blowout decks. How am I going to deal with T4 Zur or T5 Rafiq wins?
wipe away and word of seizing sound good. so does pongify i prefer chaos warp and capsize but it seems to be out of your budget but then you cant always prepare for everething if you are GOING BIG OR GOING HOME.
edit: compleatly forgat beast within to kill anything giving you problems and combust even though it can only target up to 2 colors in magic, it will kill all the tier 1 generals exept for very few since it cant be countered and it deals 5 damages very good for killing utility generelaks like teeg who might stop your deck cold or azami wjo might draw into counters or solutions, or arcum who just is plain evil.
So, I've been running this "go big or go home" theme in my head for a while now; specifically with Intet, the Dreamer as the general for his 'cheating into play ability'.
With the exception of powerful utility creatures like Eternal Witness, all my creatures at going to have big butts.
I'm looking at things like Inkwell Leviatian, Simic Sky Swallower, Terastodon, etc.
Now, I'm not looking for what creatures should be included (though that is always nice), but more so as to:
1) How to cheat them into play
2) How to get them back into play directly from the graveyard
3) How to control the top of my library so that I choose when they go into play
4) Any information as to 'how' I should be playing a 'go big or go home' deck.
Thanks in advance!
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Elvish Piper
Quicksilver Amulet
Pattern of Rebirth
are all nice for that.
You're playing RUG, so you don't get any grave to field recursion save for the odd balls like
Artisan of Kozilek
Manipulating the top of the deck in your colours is easy-peasy
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Intet's colours don't allow for any re-animation that I can think of. Eternal Witness, Regrowth and friends put 'em back in your hand, though.
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Besides the fact that he's been on the top 50 since his release...
Sneak Attack might merit testing. Obviously JTMS can throw stuff back on top; maybe even try Noxious Revival (and variants) for easy recursion off an Intet activation?
EDIT: Didn't see that Rickston already had Reclaim variants listed.
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I think what you are trying to do there is very similar to my deck concept for Intet Living the Dream (Click to see deck).
Basically the deck runs all Eldrazis and various meat (Trench Gorger is my fav) and cheats them into play using things like Omen Machine, Gate to the Æther, Lurking Predator. To circumvent the problem of "What if I draw them?", Wild Evocation is used.
Sculpting Steel, Phyrexian Metamorph and Mizzium Transreliquat acts as additional copies of Omen Machine.
Feel free to look at my deck for inspiration and comment if you have any ideas for improvement!
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Add in Paleoloth for extra hilarity as long as you're using 5+ power dudes, which doesn't sound like a problem for this build. It's a pretty hilarious board state.
I'll also second Call of the Wild and throw Impromptu Raid out there. You need to run some pretty heavy recursion to make use of most of these, but Reclaim and variants are already on theme.
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Elvish Piper and Chaos Warp probably cost too much for my budget; but I'll consider them.
Djinn of Wishes: This guy looks AWESOME, as I am attempting to control the top of my library anyways.
Artisan of Kozilek: Despite not liking the annhiliator mechanic, this guy WILL be going in. He's BIG! He returns another BIG from the G/Y.
As for topdeck-control, those one shots will all be added....the cheap ones anyways.
@Donald
I do own Polymorph and Mass Polymorph...also Warp World for that matter....so their definately worth considering. Thx.
@unquashable
Have Lurking Predators and Genesis Wave, though the wave is in my elf deck...
As to putting them into my hand.....it means recasting them. Want to try save some mana.
@Edelmdor
Very interesting build. Will definately take a closer look into it to see what I can gleen and offer. Really like the Omen Machine and Wild Evocation effects....so long as I am able to output bigger/more powerful cards.
@Dartain
Love the land input. Halimar Depths and Madblind Mountain are definately on my list now. Crystal Ball too.
@CobraShuttle
Guilded Passage doesn't even have to be mentioned. It's obviously going in....simply because it must; Opponent picks the 3 'worst' cards in your 100 best cards deck? Yes please.
@SuperSonik
Body Double is definately going into the build. Thanks for reminding me of it.
Wow! Great input so far. Decklist has is being conceptualized and I'll have a 'work in progress' post soon enough. Keep the brainstorming coming.
I'm also beginning to tackle the problems this type of deck might face. The obvious problem will be to play against fast blowout decks. How am I going to deal with T4 Zur or T5 Rafiq wins?
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edit: compleatly forgat beast within to kill anything giving you problems and combust even though it can only target up to 2 colors in magic, it will kill all the tier 1 generals exept for very few since it cant be countered and it deals 5 damages very good for killing utility generelaks like teeg who might stop your deck cold or azami wjo might draw into counters or solutions, or arcum who just is plain evil.
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