Hey guys, I've been debating lately about putting Isochron Sceptre in my Sharuum combo deck, but I thought I'd get as many outside opinions as I can. I know that some say that Isochron Sceptre isn't worth it because of how easy it is to be 2-for-1'ed because of it, but I think that it may be a little easier with me having Sharuum as a general and a Darksteel Forge. I've also got a pretty good selection of things to imprint on it:
Swords to Plowshares
Path to Exile
Dispatch
Enlightened Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Thirst For Knowledge
Brainstorm
Hinder
Spell Crumple
Muddle the Mixture
Vindicate
I'm sure theres more but I can't think of them off the top of my head... But yeah, thats the list as of now. Would the Isochron Sceptre be worth the slot?
Hey guys, I've been debating lately about putting Isochron Sceptre in my Sharuum combo deck, but I thought I'd get as many outside opinions as I can. I know that some say that Isochron Sceptre isn't worth it because of how easy it is to be 2-for-1'ed because of it, but I think that it may be a little easier with me having Sharuum as a general and a Darksteel Forge. I've also got a pretty good selection of things to imprint on it:
Swords to Plowshares
Path to Exile
Dispatch
Enlightened Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Thirst For Knowledge
Brainstorm
Hinder
Spell Crumple
Muddle the Mixture
Vindicate
I'm sure theres more but I can't think of them off the top of my head... But yeah, thats the list as of now. Would the Isochron Sceptre be worth the slot?
Demo and Vindicate aren't legal targets, as a note, because only instants are imprintable. Neither are the three-mana instants you have.
Isocron Scepter lets you imprint instants with CMC 2 or less, which cuts your list in half. In my experience, it's hard to get a good instant in your hand and the Scepter.
It's bad for all the reasons stated above, and even worse in a deck that has access to far better reusable effects.
I recommend taking time to deduce what it is you're actually wanting to accomplish by reusing said effects. If it's anything outside of "reusable removal" or "reusable tutors", you should take a gander at what else people are doing with Sharuum and reconsider your options.
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To save the time you'll invest in making Isochron Specter work, you can shift your efforts into adding additional Armageddon effects.
...the best ones in my opinion are Desolation Angel and Cataclysm. Try it out, heck even proxy them if you don't have an actual copy (which is true in most cases). Desolation Angel will get there...she's a 5/4 Flyer that Armageddon's. What more can you ask for?
I pretty much agree with what people have said here.
That aside, Argivian Find is a good instant to imprint on it.
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Swords to Plowshares
Path to Exile
Dispatch
Enlightened Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Thirst For Knowledge
Brainstorm
Hinder
Spell Crumple
Muddle the Mixture
Vindicate
I'm sure theres more but I can't think of them off the top of my head... But yeah, thats the list as of now. Would the Isochron Sceptre be worth the slot?
Demo and Vindicate aren't legal targets, as a note, because only instants are imprintable. Neither are the three-mana instants you have.
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Agreed. I've tried running it with ten good cards to imprint, and it still sucked.
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I recommend taking time to deduce what it is you're actually wanting to accomplish by reusing said effects. If it's anything outside of "reusable removal" or "reusable tutors", you should take a gander at what else people are doing with Sharuum and reconsider your options.
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...the best ones in my opinion are Desolation Angel and Cataclysm. Try it out, heck even proxy them if you don't have an actual copy (which is true in most cases). Desolation Angel will get there...she's a 5/4 Flyer that Armageddon's. What more can you ask for?
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Unwinding clock and a random mana rock. It's ok, just not optimal.
That aside, Argivian Find is a good instant to imprint on it.
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