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Tutoring artifacts in easy and fun in EDH, and I found my old Ashnod's Altar in a stack of cards last night. Now I want to assemble infinite combos with it!

The first that came to mind is Pentavus and Blade of the Bloodchief.

1. Equip blade to Pentavus
2. Launch a Pentavite at the cost of 1
3. Sac the Pentavite to the Altar to generate a net +1.
4. The blade puts a counter back on the Pentavus
5. Repeat for an arbitrary amount of mana
6. Launch a Pentavite and land it again, generating +1 counter on the Pentavus
7. Repeat until the Pentavus is arbitrarily large
8. Launch an arbitrary number of Pentavites

What are some other fun combos? I prefer odd/wierd combos, like Pentavite tokens, instead of "infinite mana + Banefire".

I use it in my Sek'Kuar deck to combo with Junk Diver + My Retriever + Genesis Chamber / Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper / Pawn of Ulamog

With one in GY, play the other, generate a token, sac it and the token to the Altar, bring the other back to your hand, play it, rinse repeat.

It also enables tons of things to combo such as Nim Deathmantle + Grave Titan / Marsh Flitter / Priest of Gix / Mogg War Marshall / Sprouting Thrinax. Anything making 2 or more tokens on its way in or out basically combines with altar + mantle for infinite mana.

Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + Any Persist Creature.

Better with Triskelavus when you got the altar and the blade you can kill everything and do infinite mana and infinite tokens. But it's pretty hard to set 7 mana for the Triskelavus 1 for equip with the blade and everybody can respond you equip and kill your combo -_-' and you finish your turn full tap but with some extra mana and counterspell that can be a really good win condition in a artefact deck.

The altar was pretty good with Thopter Foundry and Sword of the Meek infinite life, token and colorless but can only be play in esper or five color deck.

Ashnod's Altar + Sliver Queen + your choice of Training Grounds or Heartstone

As mentioned, Nim Deathmantle is BFFs with the Altar. Anything that makes tokens when it ETB or anything with Persist is great.

Melira, Sylvok Outcast +Glen Elendra Archmage

I wonder why no one hasn't said this: Words of Wilding + Fecundity + Ashnod's Altar

Ghave, Guru of Spores has a plethora of combos with Ashnod's Altar, as does Nim Deathmantle. Any creature with Persist, Undying, or which makes tokens when it enters the battlefield, leaves the battlefield, or for (or less) works well with Altar and Deathmantle.

Just yesterday in my Karn deck I used Krark-Clan Ironworks (although Ashnod's Altar would've worked exactly the same), Karn, and Nim Deathmantle to exile everyone else's graveyard with Relic of Progenitus and then exile everyone's library with Pyxis of Pandemonium. Tap Relic/Pyxis, animate Relic/Pyxis with Karn, sacrifice Relic/Pyxis to Ironworks (Altar would have worked just as well), reanimate with Deathmantle. (There was a separate combo going for the extra I needed each cycle.)

Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + wurmcoil engine is colourless.

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Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + wurmcoil engine is colourless.

As most all others have said, Nim Deathmantle is Ashnod's Altar's best friend, and vise versa.

You have to time the Wurmcoil Engine correctly with the stack to get it working. First, you sacrifice the Wurmcoil Engine, which puts two "dies" triggers on the stack; the Deathmantle and the Engine itself. Ashnod's Altar is a mana ability, which means it doesn't use the stack. Place he Deathmantle on the stack first and the engine second. The first in, last out rules of the stack allow you to put two tokens into play, which can then be sacrificed to Ashnod's altar for 4, leaving you with 6. once that is done, you pay 4 for the Deathmantle and now you have a fresh 8/8 black artifact creature - zombie in play and 2. Repeat this process once again and you will end up with the same thing and 4. You can keep doing this all day to net infinite colorless mana. Once you have infinite colorless mana, you can now start sacrificing Wurmcoil Engine and paying the cost of Nim deathmantle with said mana. This will create infinite tokens for you. However, with infinite colorless mana, do you really need the tokens? Maybe sometimes.

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Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + wurmcoil engine is colourless.

As most all others have said, Nim Deathmantle is Ashnod's Altar's best friend, and vise versa.

You have to time the Wurmcoil Engine correctly with the stack to get it working. First, you sacrifice the Wurmcoil Engine, which puts two "dies" triggers on the stack; the Deathmantle and the Engine itself. Ashnod's Altar is a mana ability, which means it doesn't use the stack. Place he Deathmantle on the stack first and the engine second. The first in, last out rules of the stack allow you to put two tokens into play, which can then be sacrificed to Ashnod's altar for 4, leaving you with 6. once that is done, you pay 4 for the Deathmantle and now you have a fresh 8/8 black artifact creature - zombie in play and 2. Repeat this process once again and you will end up with the same thing and 4. You can keep doing this all day to net infinite colorless mana. Once you have infinite colorless mana, you can now start sacrificing Wurmcoil Engine and paying the cost of Nim deathmantle with said mana. This will create infinite tokens for you. However, with infinite colorless mana, do you really need the tokens? Maybe sometimes.

Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + Wurmcoil Engine + Clock of Omens + Kuldotha Forgemaster. All the artifacts~!

Altar very much gives Derevi, Empyrial Tactician immunity to tucking effects (prior to the rule change, of course).

NEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I love Ashnod's altar with zombies

Guess it's up to me to say Myr Battlesphere. All by itself, it makes enough mana to cast itself again + . Easy to get a loop going with Nim Deathmantle and make it a wincon in itself by dropping in Disciple of the Vault.

Dross Scorpion and Myr Turbine = infinite mana.

Also naturally good with non-artifact tokens. One of the meanest is Twilight Drover. Sac a spirit for a counter, use 1 to get back 2 tokens, etc. Goes infinite with things like a Midnight Guard enchanted with Karametra's Favor to generate the 1 white mana per loop, to name just one example.

The combo in the OP can kill a whole table with the addition of Bitter Ordeal or Disciple of the Vault.

If you want to go old-school:

Ashnod's Altar + Enduring Renewal + Shield Sphere (this only generates arbitrary amounts of mana)

Ashnod's Altar + Fecundity + Saproling Cluster

I like to use it with Skullclamp to convert all of my tokens into cards and mana.

Sun Titan + Fiend Hunter + Phyrexian Altar is infinite mana

Have the titan on the field, exile it with Fiend Hunter, then sac the hunter and titan returns. Titan gets back the hunter and you start all over again. Of course, this combo works with any sac outlet, this is just one of the more useful ones.

If you have Ashnod's Altar and use Avacyn's Collar you can cause infinite token deaths, so with something like Unruly Mob or Ninth Bridge Patrol you can make infinitely large creatures, or alternatively something like Blood Artist will let you gain infinite life/ do infinite damage. Also causes any "enter the battlefield" effects to proc. Overall a pretty easy and versatile combo.

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If you have Ashnod's Altar and use Avacyn's Collar you can cause infinite token deaths, so with something like Unruly Mob or Ninth Bridge Patrol you can make infinitely large creatures, or alternatively something like Blood Artist will let you gain infinite life/ do infinite damage. Also causes any "enter the battlefield" effects to proc. Overall a pretty easy and versatile combo.

avacyn's collar

Where are you getting infinite humans?

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avacyn's collar

Where are you getting infinite humans?

Sorry, I was looking at it on the table and I missed Conspiracy. Not the set or a conspiracy card, it is an old card that my dad gave me called Conspiracy, it makes all your creatures everywhere of a chosen type, so I choose human and then even my spirits are humans and that makes them eligible for Avacyn's. Alternatively if you have infinite mana as well you could use Mistform Mutant or Unnatural Selection. Or if you have the ability to untap infinitely you could use Image Crafter. Also if you can get your hands on Xenograft it is the easiest way.If you have Ashnod's Altar and use Avacyn's Collar you can cause infinite token deaths, so with something like Unruly Mob or Ninth Bridge Patrol you can make infinitely large creatures, or alternatively something like Blood Artist will let you gain infinite life/ do infinite damage. Also causes any "enter the battlefield" effects to proc. Overall a pretty easy and versatile combo.

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Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + Any Persist Creature.

Alternately, any creature that produces two or more tokens when it ETB or dies. So, Wurmcoil Engine, Symbiotic Beast, Symbiotic Elf, Mitotic Slime, Symbiotic Wurm, Hornet Queen, Hallowed Spiritkeeper, Geist-Honored Monk, Mausoleum Guard, Deranged Hermit, Precursor Golem, Goblin Marshal, Maul Splicer, and Grave Titan.

You can also use Abzan Ascendancy, Field of Souls, Doubling Season, Parallel Lives, Primal Vigor, or (non-spirits only) Requiem Angel to turn any creature that makes one token when it ETB or dies (the other splicers, Ambassador Oak, Doomed Traveler, Penumbra Bobcat, Penumbra Spider, Penumbra Kavu, Penumbra Wurm) go infinite. Or just use two of the non-doubling cards.

Another one is Altar + Ghave, Guru of Spores + any undying creature (Young Wolf is the easiest one.)

Ashnod's Altar is also great with persist creatures and Cathars' Crusade or Melira, Sylvok Outcast.

Boonweaver Giant + gift of immortality makes infinite mana with Altar. best part is you don't even need gift in your hand to combo. play Giant, search for gift make arbitrary amounts of mana.