I want to build a G/B/U EDH that abuses Life from the Loam and the graveyard. The general is Vorosh. I need suggestions for what cards in these colors abuse the graveyard the most.
Azusa, Lost but Seeking would be a good call, so you can really ramp up the shenanigans. Zuran Orb will let you reuse your cards over and over again. Stinkweed Imp and Golgari Grave-troll are awesome given their high dredge values.
You could also consider Glimpse the Unthinkable to target the most unthinkable of targets! For the same reason, traumatise. Ancestral Memories is awesome in this situation given that you'll be able to treat it as being close to "Draw 7", otherwise tolarian winds or breakthrough make good draw/discard engines. Sutured Ghoul is a fairly popular kill-card in dredge-style decks, so maybe it'll work here as well. Reito Lantern could help you put lost cards back where they belong and protect you from the worst of a tormod's crypt.
Run Mystical tutor and Shred memory in addition to your other tutors, since they'll fetch loam specifically.
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Whatever you do, make sure you include Scroll Rack(which you probably already would), because it's nuts with Loam. "2G: Draw 3 cards." could turn out to be quite useful.
Greater Good Is a terrific way to get cards in your hand or in play into your Graveyard. and on the Sacrificial note Fecundity may be of use.
Exploration is a good way help abuse Life from the Loam. And with crucible in there having an option like Zuran Orb is worth checking out. If you want to be mean about it throw in a Herald of Leshrac so you can sac your opponents lands!
Any card with Threshold is also going to be worth a look. Wonder may be an option to take your whole team to the skies. teaming Filth with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is great too!
Except, then you wouldn't get to use blue. Blue > hard to utilize ability
True. So the question is, does he want the additiona power that blue provides, or does he want to really focus on the recursion and graveyard aspects? In the latter case I think sacrificing blue for Teneb is the right call.
Besides on the G-yard front you gain alot from adding white, as someone else pointed out. and its more consistent with the theme of the deck...
just my 2c, White seems stronger than blue in a multiplayer deck, considering in exchange for counters you get an whole host of wraths and just straight up good cards,
Im a fan of picking the general you want rather than the one that gives you the colors you want+blue
Besides on the G-yard front you gain alot from adding white, as someone else pointed out. and its more consistent with the theme of the deck...
I disagree; Teneb has no obvious synergy with Loam except for the Dredge 3 part. Granted, neither does Vorosh, but just off the top of my head blue gives you access to:
Intuition -- instantly set up a Loam engine, instant speed for 3 mana. Except for the namesake card, this will probably be the best card in the deck. 43 Lands needs to find Loam every game, and 43 Lands runs Intuition for a reason. Shuuk was right on the money with this one.
Mystical Tutor -- Also gives you instant Loam shenanigans, or any other answer you may need.
Muddle the Mixture -- more of the same, really, but gives you more options still.
Academy Ruins -- Loam's other best friend. You can Intuition for Loam, Ruins, and Oblivion Stone to always have a board reset available (who needs white for Wrath, anyway?). Or, you know, you could always get Mindslaver and win the game...
Forbid -- A limitless supply of counterspells with an active Loam. I can see this card winning games, a lot.
Also, white doesn't give you a lot of options when it comes to fighting graveyard hate. At least blue gives you the utility of countermagic. I guess you can tell my version of the deck wouldn't be very friendly
Just a thought, if we are playing a general that has nothing to do with the deck, why not just play Reaper king? That will let you play a few of the decent hybrid cards that you couldn't otherwise, and the Reapster plus Rite of Replication is always good times.
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These are just a few cards off the top of my head that work well with graveyards.
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Stinkweed Imp and Golgari Grave-troll are awesome given their high dredge values.
You could also consider Glimpse the Unthinkable to target the most unthinkable of targets! For the same reason, traumatise.
Ancestral Memories is awesome in this situation given that you'll be able to treat it as being close to "Draw 7", otherwise tolarian winds or breakthrough make good draw/discard engines.
Sutured Ghoul is a fairly popular kill-card in dredge-style decks, so maybe it'll work here as well.
Reito Lantern could help you put lost cards back where they belong and protect you from the worst of a tormod's crypt.
Run Mystical tutor and Shred memory in addition to your other tutors, since they'll fetch loam specifically.
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Exploration is a good way help abuse Life from the Loam. And with crucible in there having an option like Zuran Orb is worth checking out. If you want to be mean about it throw in a Herald of Leshrac so you can sac your opponents lands!
Dust Bowl, Ghost Quarter, and Tectonic Edge are probably some more anti-land to consider.
Tombstone Stairwell is pretty nuts as well.
Any card with Threshold is also going to be worth a look. Wonder may be an option to take your whole team to the skies. teaming Filth with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is great too!
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True. So the question is, does he want the additiona power that blue provides, or does he want to really focus on the recursion and graveyard aspects? In the latter case I think sacrificing blue for Teneb is the right call.
just my 2c, White seems stronger than blue in a multiplayer deck, considering in exchange for counters you get an whole host of wraths and just straight up good cards,
Im a fan of picking the general you want rather than the one that gives you the colors you want+blue
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I disagree; Teneb has no obvious synergy with Loam except for the Dredge 3 part. Granted, neither does Vorosh, but just off the top of my head blue gives you access to:
Intuition -- instantly set up a Loam engine, instant speed for 3 mana. Except for the namesake card, this will probably be the best card in the deck. 43 Lands needs to find Loam every game, and 43 Lands runs Intuition for a reason. Shuuk was right on the money with this one.
Merchant Scroll -- Go get Intuition (aka, go get Loam). Also one of Shuuk's suggestions.
Mystical Tutor -- Also gives you instant Loam shenanigans, or any other answer you may need.
Muddle the Mixture -- more of the same, really, but gives you more options still.
Academy Ruins -- Loam's other best friend. You can Intuition for Loam, Ruins, and Oblivion Stone to always have a board reset available (who needs white for Wrath, anyway?). Or, you know, you could always get Mindslaver and win the game...
Forbid -- A limitless supply of counterspells with an active Loam. I can see this card winning games, a lot.
Jace the Mind Sculptor -- Just like Scroll Rack, this is a nuts card draw engine with Loam. It's also a wincon.
Fabricate -- Go get Scroll Rack, Crucible of Worlds, Oblivion Stone, or whatever else you need to fuel your engine.
Also, white doesn't give you a lot of options when it comes to fighting graveyard hate. At least blue gives you the utility of countermagic. I guess you can tell my version of the deck wouldn't be very friendly
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