Ob Nixilis, the Fallen 3BB
Legendary Creature - Demon Mythic Rare
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may have target player lose 3 life. If you do, put three +1/+1 counters on Ob Nixilis, the Fallen.
3/3
this card is going to be in zendikar
i was wondering if anyone thought it might be a good idea to basically play this as a general and a bunch of good artifacts/ black cards and the rest of the deck would be swamps
i only ask because it provides a constant source of damage and increasing power and i thought it might be worth trying
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On the other hand, this guy + Crucible of Worlds + terramorphic expanse seems kind of fun.
I look at this guy and think, his ability isn't strange enough to excite my Johnny sensibilities, and in terms of power, while it seems powerful enough, I think other mono-b generals are more powerful. The biggest strike against this guy, in my mind, is a lack of build-around-me potential. That's in part a personal preference as I tend to like linear general-based decks.
This guarantees at least two lands hit the battlefield per turn. Really strong if you ask me. Maybe run it creatureless or almost creatureless other than the general, with dark ritual etc. to power him out fast and MBC-type cards. Seems fun.
I also second norbert88's suggestions.
Edit: Sorin Markov seems good for his set-opponent's-life-to-10 ability.
yeah i just like the idea of a real budget edh deck in monoblack and this gave me some hope for it.
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The best part is that we get Verdant Marsh and Obsidian Flats (the BG and WB fetchlands respectively) which have absolutely fantastic synergy with both Ob Nixilis and Crucible.
We've only seen 71 cards (20 of which are basic lands), and Zendikar is already going to massively shake up EDH.
I was going to make a vampire deck with Kalitas, but since my mono-B tools are getting thin, I'm probably going to make it Ob Nil and his vampire friends.
I often start making tribal decks and get bored halfway through, so that may change too.
Something different to play. Slightly different construction possibilities, especially the effective CIP life gain (Playing a land before passing priority).
Politics. Maga sometimes draws ire.
Subduction/Tuck. Ob Nixilis decks might arguably be a bit less devestated by Hinder et al.
Coolness Factor. Maga looks like he just came in from working the fields. Ob lost his spark.
A couple reasons: Something different to play. Slightly different construction possibilities, especially the effective CIP life gain (Playing a land before passing priority).
Is there some combo with Ob that I am missing? What life gain are you referring to?
My bad. Somewhere I got it into my head he drained life. Doh!
Oh, ok. I was confused for a second. He would be pretty interesting if he drained life, but as is I don't see why I would want to use him over Maga. Maga benefits from any land search that you would use to power up Ob, plus Maga also benefits from Cabal Coffers, Gauntlet of Power, and Extraplanar Lens. Plus if you have a way to sacrifice Maga you can reuse him every turn. I would definitely play Ob in a Maga deck though
Personally I think Maga is better as a general than Ob Nixilis if your deck is built to mana ramp and generate gross amounts of mana.
Maga impacts the game immediately. He will massively drain someone's life total, if not kill them outright with enough mana. After that, you're left with a monsterous beatdown creature right from the get-go that can potentially kill in one hit as well thanks to general damage. Ob Nixilis takes a bit more time on the other hand to ramp up to become an imposing creature.
Also, if Maga gets killed, you can just generate another wad of mana and obliterate another person's life total, whereas with Ob Nixilis you're back to square one with his landfall trigger. If only Ob Nixilis had evasion... guess we'll have to stick with Shizo, Death's Storehouse for that.
If you do want to use Ob Nixilis as a general though, I would play with this skeleton for a mana base:
ob nixilis also works very well with journeyer's kite and thawing glaciers in addition to cards kayvee and surging chaos mentioned
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3BB
Legendary Creature - Demon Mythic Rare
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may have target player lose 3 life. If you do, put three +1/+1 counters on Ob Nixilis, the Fallen.
3/3
this card is going to be in zendikar
i was wondering if anyone thought it might be a good idea to basically play this as a general and a bunch of good artifacts/ black cards and the rest of the deck would be swamps
i only ask because it provides a constant source of damage and increasing power and i thought it might be worth trying
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Volkan Baga should do a chrome mox art
On the other hand, this guy + Crucible of Worlds + terramorphic expanse seems kind of fun.
I look at this guy and think, his ability isn't strange enough to excite my Johnny sensibilities, and in terms of power, while it seems powerful enough, I think other mono-b generals are more powerful. The biggest strike against this guy, in my mind, is a lack of build-around-me potential. That's in part a personal preference as I tend to like linear general-based decks.
Tendrils+Loads of swamps+Ob Nixilis? YES PLEASE.
Quotes in blog.
I think they unbanned it. Or am I looking at an old list?
The link in the FAQ is outdated too.
Unbanned. The FAQ sticky post is terribly out of date.
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Here's what you do:
Crucible of worlds
Terramorphic Expanse / Jund Panorama (or grixis or esper) / any of the 4 fetchlands that can fetch a swamp
repeat.
This guarantees at least two lands hit the battlefield per turn. Really strong if you ask me. Maybe run it creatureless or almost creatureless other than the general, with dark ritual etc. to power him out fast and MBC-type cards. Seems fun.
I also second norbert88's suggestions.
Edit: Sorin Markov seems good for his set-opponent's-life-to-10 ability.
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We've only seen 71 cards (20 of which are basic lands), and Zendikar is already going to massively shake up EDH.
EDIT: Oh duh, Sanguine Bond.
I was going to make a vampire deck with Kalitas, but since my mono-B tools are getting thin, I'm probably going to make it Ob Nil and his vampire friends.
I often start making tribal decks and get bored halfway through, so that may change too.
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Something different to play. Slightly different construction possibilities, especially the effective CIP life gain (Playing a land before passing priority).
Politics. Maga sometimes draws ire.
Subduction/Tuck. Ob Nixilis decks might arguably be a bit less devestated by Hinder et al.
Coolness Factor. Maga looks like he just came in from working the fields. Ob lost his spark.
Is there some combo with Ob that I am missing? What life gain are you referring to?
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/1959
My bad. Somewhere I got it into my head he drained life. Doh!
Oh, ok. I was confused for a second. He would be pretty interesting if he drained life, but as is I don't see why I would want to use him over Maga. Maga benefits from any land search that you would use to power up Ob, plus Maga also benefits from Cabal Coffers, Gauntlet of Power, and Extraplanar Lens. Plus if you have a way to sacrifice Maga you can reuse him every turn. I would definitely play Ob in a Maga deck though
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/1959
Maga impacts the game immediately. He will massively drain someone's life total, if not kill them outright with enough mana. After that, you're left with a monsterous beatdown creature right from the get-go that can potentially kill in one hit as well thanks to general damage. Ob Nixilis takes a bit more time on the other hand to ramp up to become an imposing creature.
Also, if Maga gets killed, you can just generate another wad of mana and obliterate another person's life total, whereas with Ob Nixilis you're back to square one with his landfall trigger. If only Ob Nixilis had evasion... guess we'll have to stick with Shizo, Death's Storehouse for that.
If you do want to use Ob Nixilis as a general though, I would play with this skeleton for a mana base:
1 Polluted Delta
1 Verdant Marsh
1 Obsidian Flats
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Esper Panorama
1 Grixis Panorama
1 Jund Panorama
1 Terminal Moraine
Combo it with Crucible of Worlds to get a steady stream of land drops and landfall triggers as well.
Quotes in blog.
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