I don't know about your playgroup but suture priest punishes opponents for creatures and helps your hunt for 40 life.
I've never liked that that card in this style of deck. It just doesn't feel like it does enough, especially when drawn later on. Besides, it's not like I care about dealing damage when I have 4x Emeria, the Sky Ruin and 4x Felidar Sovereign in my deck full of lifegain
I'll let you know more after playtesting, since I think I may take apart my Emeria Control deck to build this, but is it possible that this is a deck that wants two Panharmonicon The four drop spot looks a little clogged to be sure, but doubling triggers on Caracals, Rangers, and Sisters seems like a place to be.
I'll let you know more after playtesting, since I think I may take apart my Emeria Control deck to build this, but is it possible that this is a deck that wants two Panharmonicon The four drop spot looks a little clogged to be sure, but doubling triggers on Caracals, Rangers, and Sisters seems like a place to be.
It's not the strongest PanHam deck in the world but it does seem eminently reasonable doesn't it?
I'll let you know more after playtesting, since I think I may take apart my Emeria Control deck to build this, but is it possible that this is a deck that wants two Panharmonicon The four drop spot looks a little clogged to be sure, but doubling triggers on Caracals, Rangers, and Sisters seems like a place to be.
It's not the strongest PanHam deck in the world but it does seem eminently reasonable doesn't it?
I'll let you know more after playtesting, since I think I may take apart my Emeria Control deck to build this, but is it possible that this is a deck that wants two Panharmonicon The four drop spot looks a little clogged to be sure, but doubling triggers on Caracals, Rangers, and Sisters seems like a place to be.
It's not the strongest PanHam deck in the world but it does seem eminently reasonable doesn't it?
You're only analyzing a fairly niche use-case for the card if you're planning on pairing it with a handful of 2-ofs. It's important to ask yourself "will this card win me games that I was otherwise going to lose" and it's not clear to me that PanHam qualifies. First of all Soul Sisters decks are weak against mass removal and these kinds of cards don't significantly help you on that front. Yes, if you draw exactly PanHam into exactly Ranger of Eos (of which the deck has 2, keep that in mind) then it's solid but what if you draw into basically any other creature or spell or land? Yes, it has a handful of good hits, but the vast majority of the deck are misses. Moreover, lifegain only matters so much. Sure, in some metas where there's no combos, no Eldrazi, no Craterhoof Behemoths, no token engines + Cathars' Crusade, etc. then maybe having 200+ life will make you more-or-less unkillable. Still, multiplayer is very much a "go big" format and so you're still prone to encountering decks that can easily beat you from 300 life. Not always, clearly, but suffice to say that people are more likely to sleeve up Hive Mind + Pact of the Titan than Goblin Guide + Monastery Swiftspear. That's why the deck doesn't have a bunch of Rhox Faithmender type cards that bolster my lifegain because at some point you have to win or else you'll lose.
For example, I would be much more inclined to field those kinds of cards if my deck included Aetherflux Reservoir, and I'm not entirely sure why that isn't in the deck yet. Probably because I'm an idiot.
For example, I would be much more inclined to field those kinds of cards if my deck included Aetherflux Reservoir, and I'm not entirely sure why that isn't in the deck yet. Probably because I'm an idiot.
+1 for Aetherflux Reservoir I was wondering why it isn't in your list. Have you tested it in this kind of deck?
Doesn't seem like a good fit to me. The deck only has a single multi-bodied threat and the vast majority of my spells cost less than 5 mana so it' unlikely that I'll be able to spam the board post-Crusade. The ideal 5 CMC pump spell would be Archangel of Thune but that pricetag .
Your version is definitely better than my 2 attempts. I was wondering about Ajani's Pridemate with Genesis Chamber though, is it just a giant blocker once you start giving them Myr's?
Your version is definitely better than my 2 attempts. I was wondering about Ajani's Pridemate with Genesis Chamber though, is it just a giant blocker once you start giving them Myr's?
Ajani's Pridemate and Karlov of the Ghost Council are how I punish Control/Combo/Ramp players. If you want to sit there and cast cantrips, draw spells, tutors, etc. then I'm literally going to smack you for 20 by turn 4 (possibly even turn 3 if I get a bit of help). That's why those cards are in the deck.
Cast kitties, gain life, jam Felidar Sovereign. Thoughts?
Kind of silly to state that a (fun? fair?) cat related suggestion is bad because it doesn't work with a combo card that is used in an off color deck that runs three cards to work none of which you use in the deck you request suggestions for.
Or am I the one going off topic?
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Cast kitties, gain life, jam Felidar Sovereign. Thoughts?
Kind of silly to state that a (fun? fair?) cat related suggestion is bad because it doesn't work with a combo card that is used in an off color deck that runs three cards to work none of which you use in the deck you request suggestions for.
Or am I the one going off topic?
Honestly I forgot what this thread was about. In my mind you were making suggestions for my Mardu Soul Sisters deck.
That being said you should probably know by now that I'm not going to be swayed by arguments such as "X card is fun/flavorful/thematic" unless it's also "good." I'm not going to splash Green for a marginal removal spell as there's no way that that's going to bolster my overall win %. The deck either becomes twice as expensive for the manabase alone or I'd have to add a bunch of ETB lands that will significantly reduce my speed and consistency.
I know you'll disregard 85% of my suggestions.
But I keep making them.
Partially for the other 15% and partially for other players that might like them.
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18x Plains
4x Emeria, the Sky Ruin
Creatures (30)
4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
4x Ajani's Pridemate
4x Oreskos Explorer
2x Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2x Ranger of Eos
1x Healer of the Pride
1x Felidar Guardian
4x Regal Caracal
4x Felidar Sovereign
1x Authority of the Consuls
4x Grasp of Fate
1x White Sun's Zenith
1x Well of Lost Dreams
1x Aetherflux Reservoir
Cast kitties, gain life, jam Felidar Sovereign. Thoughts? I can't be the only one excited to give my Ajani's Pridemates lifelink . Also, who else is happy about the fact that Ranger of Eos is like a $2.00 card now ? Felidar Guardian blinking Ranger of Eoses/Regal Caracals is such gas.
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I've never liked that that card in this style of deck. It just doesn't feel like it does enough, especially when drawn later on. Besides, it's not like I care about dealing damage when I have 4x Emeria, the Sky Ruin and 4x Felidar Sovereign in my deck full of lifegain
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Good call, how could I have forgotten about those?
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It's not the strongest PanHam deck in the world but it does seem eminently reasonable doesn't it?
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The fact that an interaction like Felidar Guardian double blinking a Regal Caracal and Ranger of Eos to create 4 tokens, fill up your hand with 4 Soul Warden, and trigger each Soul Warden effect you have on the board 14(?) times is "not the strongest in the world" really makes me appreciate Panharmonicon.
You're only analyzing a fairly niche use-case for the card if you're planning on pairing it with a handful of 2-ofs. It's important to ask yourself "will this card win me games that I was otherwise going to lose" and it's not clear to me that PanHam qualifies. First of all Soul Sisters decks are weak against mass removal and these kinds of cards don't significantly help you on that front. Yes, if you draw exactly PanHam into exactly Ranger of Eos (of which the deck has 2, keep that in mind) then it's solid but what if you draw into basically any other creature or spell or land? Yes, it has a handful of good hits, but the vast majority of the deck are misses. Moreover, lifegain only matters so much. Sure, in some metas where there's no combos, no Eldrazi, no Craterhoof Behemoths, no token engines + Cathars' Crusade, etc. then maybe having 200+ life will make you more-or-less unkillable. Still, multiplayer is very much a "go big" format and so you're still prone to encountering decks that can easily beat you from 300 life. Not always, clearly, but suffice to say that people are more likely to sleeve up Hive Mind + Pact of the Titan than Goblin Guide + Monastery Swiftspear. That's why the deck doesn't have a bunch of Rhox Faithmender type cards that bolster my lifegain because at some point you have to win or else you'll lose.
For example, I would be much more inclined to field those kinds of cards if my deck included Aetherflux Reservoir, and I'm not entirely sure why that isn't in the deck yet. Probably because I'm an idiot.
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No. My personal Soul Sisters deck is Mardu for Norin the Wary, Karlov of the Ghost Council and Purphoros, God of the Forge but I haven't played it in some time.
For those wondering what my personal build is it's:
4x Arid Mesa
4x Marsh Flats
4x Exotic Orchard
4x Sacred Foundry
4x Forbidden Orchard
1x Godless Shrine
1x Blood Crypt
4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
4x Norin the Wary
4x Ajani's Pridemate
4x Karlov of the Ghost Council
3x Purphoros, God of the Forge
2x Ranger of Eos
2x Authority of the Consuls
4x Genesis Chamber
1x Wear // Tear
4x Impact Tremors
2x Aetherflux Reservoir
With the Reservoirs being cards that "I'm going to play" rather than being "what I have played in the past."
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Doesn't seem like a good fit to me. The deck only has a single multi-bodied threat and the vast majority of my spells cost less than 5 mana so it' unlikely that I'll be able to spam the board post-Crusade. The ideal 5 CMC pump spell would be Archangel of Thune but that pricetag .
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Your version is definitely better than my 2 attempts. I was wondering about Ajani's Pridemate with Genesis Chamber though, is it just a giant blocker once you start giving them Myr's?
Ajani's Pridemate and Karlov of the Ghost Council are how I punish Control/Combo/Ramp players. If you want to sit there and cast cantrips, draw spells, tutors, etc. then I'm literally going to smack you for 20 by turn 4 (possibly even turn 3 if I get a bit of help). That's why those cards are in the deck.
Creature decks I care less about. Do the math on having Norin the Wary + Genesis Chamber + Impact Tremors/Purphoros, God of the Forge in a 4-8 player game and you'll instantly realize why I don't give a damn if people are casting generic creatures.
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Maybe not both due to WWW making the addition of G less handy.
Speaking of G, there's fun cats in green, up to and including Jedit.
However, before I go out of my way to search my mind and Gatherer for suggestions, let's first see if you like or abhor the idea.
Oh. And Jazal Goldmane ends games.
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I'm not splashing Green for Pridemage. Aura Shards maybe but not Pridemage.
White Sun's Zenith doesn't trigger Genesis Chamber and is fairly win-more even compared to Siege-Gang Commander.
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Kind of silly to state that a (fun? fair?) cat related suggestion is bad because it doesn't work with a combo card that is used in an off color deck that runs three cards to work none of which you use in the deck you request suggestions for.
Or am I the one going off topic?
My meta: 3 or 4 player free for all, anything goes but boring games or broken decks cause a vote to end that game.
Honestly I forgot what this thread was about. In my mind you were making suggestions for my Mardu Soul Sisters deck.
That being said you should probably know by now that I'm not going to be swayed by arguments such as "X card is fun/flavorful/thematic" unless it's also "good." I'm not going to splash Green for a marginal removal spell as there's no way that that's going to bolster my overall win %. The deck either becomes twice as expensive for the manabase alone or I'd have to add a bunch of ETB lands that will significantly reduce my speed and consistency.
White Sun's Zenith is definitely interesting with Regal Caracal, especially in a list with Oreskos Explorer. Seems like a solid 1-of.
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I know you'll disregard 85% of my suggestions.
But I keep making them.
Partially for the other 15% and partially for other players that might like them.
My meta: 3 or 4 player free for all, anything goes but boring games or broken decks cause a vote to end that game.