My last deck that I created with help from this forum is working so great, that I'm interested to see if my other niche idea can work as a deck.
I have always been interested in dredge decks, but have never managed to make one so I'm pretty new to the mechanic and cards.
Now that we have cast from exile cards like Eternal Scourge and Misthollow Griffin, I'm interested if these two mechanics can be combined into one strong engine.
Decks idea is to fill graveyard, exile my specific creatures from the graveyard to cast something, cast exiled creatures and trigger free recursion.
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By casting multiple creatures from Exile. That obviously requires 7-8 mana though.
Yes, I would heavily fill my gy. Then cast something cheap that exiles selected creatures Dread Return / Skaab Ruinator.
After that casting creatures from exile would give me needed triggers.
If I had to exile non castable creatures, maybe I could return them to deck with Riftsweeper and search later with Birthing Pod
7-8 mana situation is ofc more realistic, but our games usually take long to finish so I just have to just stay alive for 7-8 mana.
Maybe I should run some lowcmc wipes and stall Pernicious Deed / Wash Out / Moment's Peace?
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I really appreciate help with developing the theme, so please send me ideas or CSS code and I will try to include it in my theme.
You're missing Torrent Elemental from the three-cards-wide list of things you can cast from exile. And it's probably the best of the three.
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What can I say? First post before coffee down here.
But srsly, Torrent Elemental's ETB effect should not be slept on. It's pretty good, and can lead to a few surprise blowouts if you have enough hardware on the table.
What can I say? First post before coffee down here.
But srsly, Torrent Elemental's ETB effect should not be slept on. It's pretty good, and can lead to a few surprise blowouts if you have enough hardware on the table.
True, but it's also "put into play" rather than "cast" and so it doesn't interact with Vengevine.
Thanks for reminding me of Manipulate Fate. That card is probably the best 2 cast for card advantage.
I think that Demigod of Revenge will get the axe, as 4 color manabase will murder my budget.
This is what I came up after reading your suggestions and other dredge / selfmill decklists.
Enchantment : Pernicious Deed stalls the board as nobody wants to empty their hand while it remains in play. Also gets rid on nasty enchantments and artifacts
Instants : Fact or Fiction fills graveyard and hand at the same time. Usually cards are piled in 2x lands & good card and 2x average cards. Life from the Loam really helps with this. Murderous Cut ensures that I can exile my own creatures from graveyard and kinda comboes with Fact or Fiction as it digs 5 deep and cheapens it at the same time Sultai Charm Gets rid on nasty enchantments and artifacts, creatures and lets me select what I want to discard
-= WOTC Gatherer Enhanced =- theme project for Gatherer from Stylish.
I really appreciate help with developing the theme, so please send me ideas or CSS code and I will try to include it in my theme.
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I have always been interested in dredge decks, but have never managed to make one so I'm pretty new to the mechanic and cards.
Now that we have cast from exile cards like Eternal Scourge and Misthollow Griffin, I'm interested if these two mechanics can be combined into one strong engine.
Decks idea is to fill graveyard, exile my specific creatures from the graveyard to cast something, cast exiled creatures and trigger free recursion.
Cards that I already have and would like to use :
Demigod of Revenge might be too color intense for tri-color deck and Prized Amalgam might be usable only if I use Demigod of Revenge or Skaab Ruinator with Vengevine
Cards that I would like to use for cast from exile mechanic :
Cards that I think might work but I'm not so sure :
Just ideas if they have any actual application :
I really appreciate help with developing the theme, so please send me ideas or CSS code and I will try to include it in my theme.
By casting multiple creatures from Exile. That obviously requires 7-8 mana though.
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Ideal situation at six mana UUCCCC would be :
In graveyard :
- Skaab Ruinator
- 3x Eternal Scourge / Misthollow Griffin / other random creatures to exile
- Vengevine / Prized Amalgam
1. UUCCast Skaab Ruinator from gy exiling 3x Eternal Scourge / Misthollow Griffins / other random creatures
2. Skaab Ruinator triggers Prized Amalgam and brings it back to play
3. CCCCast just exiled Eternal Scourge from exile, 2nd creature casts triggers Vengevine and brings it back to play
No cards needed in hand.
Yes, I would heavily fill my gy. Then cast something cheap that exiles selected creatures Dread Return / Skaab Ruinator.
After that casting creatures from exile would give me needed triggers.
If I had to exile non castable creatures, maybe I could return them to deck with Riftsweeper and search later with Birthing Pod
7-8 mana situation is ofc more realistic, but our games usually take long to finish so I just have to just stay alive for 7-8 mana.
Maybe I should run some lowcmc wipes and stall Pernicious Deed / Wash Out / Moment's Peace?
I really appreciate help with developing the theme, so please send me ideas or CSS code and I will try to include it in my theme.
And how exactly do you plan on making room for these kinds of cards?
4x Wooded Foothills
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Spirebluff Canal
4x Dakmor Salvage
2x Blood Crypt
2x Stomping Ground
2x Steam Vents
1x Watery Grave
4x Eternal Scourge
4x Prized Amalgam
4x Stinkweed Imp
2x Skaab Ruinator
2x Vengevine
4x Demigod of Revenge
4x Golgari Grave-Troll
4x Faithless Looting
4x Careful Study
2x Life from the Loam
2x Manipulate Fate
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What can I say? First post before coffee down here.
But srsly, Torrent Elemental's ETB effect should not be slept on. It's pretty good, and can lead to a few surprise blowouts if you have enough hardware on the table.
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True, but it's also "put into play" rather than "cast" and so it doesn't interact with Vengevine.
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I think that Demigod of Revenge will get the axe, as 4 color manabase will murder my budget.
This is what I came up after reading your suggestions and other dredge / selfmill decklists.
1x Cephalid Coliseum
4x Dakmor Salvage
1x Forest
2x Hinterland Harbor
2x Island
1x Nephalia Drownyard
4x Opulent Palace
2x Swamp
1x Temple of Deceit
1x Tolaria West
3x Yavimaya Coast
4x Eternal Scourge
3x Misthollow Griffin
4x Prized Amalgam
1x Scavenging Ooze
2x Skaab Ruinator
4x Stinkweed Imp
4x Vengevine
Sorcery (5)
2x Life from the Loam
3x Manipulate Fate
3x Pernicious Deed
Instant (8)
3x Fact or Fiction
2x Murderous Cut
3x Sultai Charm
Lands :
Nephalia Drownyard will ensure selfmill lategame
Cephalid Coliseum can be used situationally to self mill and it comboes with Life from the Loam
Tolaria West can fetch Cephalid Coliseum or Nephalia Drownyard and can be returned back to hand with Life from the Loam
Creatures :
Scavenging Ooze ensures that I can exile my own creatures from graveyard if needed and hoses opponents gy
Misthollow Griffin I probably need more than 4 exile targets if I run Manipulate Fate or Skaab Ruinator
Vengevine & Prized Amalgam are main cards to reanimate with 2x cast from exile. First brings second to play.
Enchantment :
Pernicious Deed stalls the board as nobody wants to empty their hand while it remains in play. Also gets rid on nasty enchantments and artifacts
Instants :
Fact or Fiction fills graveyard and hand at the same time. Usually cards are piled in 2x lands & good card and 2x average cards. Life from the Loam really helps with this.
Murderous Cut ensures that I can exile my own creatures from graveyard and kinda comboes with Fact or Fiction as it digs 5 deep and cheapens it at the same time
Sultai Charm Gets rid on nasty enchantments and artifacts, creatures and lets me select what I want to discard
Golgari Grave-Troll will get in after I play test what to cut out first.
Torrent Elemental is interesting card but as Prid3 said, doesn't interact too well with rest of the deck.
But if I run enough of Misthollow Griffin and Torrent Elemental I can start to use cards like Snapback and Misdirection
I really appreciate help with developing the theme, so please send me ideas or CSS code and I will try to include it in my theme.