I'm not sure if i should replace Inquisition of Kozilek with something else like Duress or Thoughtseize or something like that. I also want to try to find a replacement for Corrupt because it has such a high mana cost. Maybe more discards or something I'm really not sure. I'm also thinking about adding Cabal Coffee. Any suggestions are welcome.
Edit: Thank you all for the help i really appreciate it. This is the updated deck list
Although I am still not sure about Vampiric Tutor due to the fact that getting that will cost me another 100 or so dollars and I just am not sure about it yet.
Free mana accelerators such as Lotus Petal and Mox Diamond (less ideal) will help you get there also. Hold them till you can go off, then drop a bunch of free spells.
I had those to do sustained damage until I was ready to make my opponent blow up. But what cards would you suggest I replace those with? I really like Jet Medallion but other than that I'm not sure cause switching the other two cards with more discard seems like a lot of discard lol.
Black storm decks usually stick to tendrils of agony as the wincon. Drain life, Consume Spirit and Corrupt will just get in the way of you casting more spells.
One variant that a friend of mine plays looks like this:
I'm going to assume the constraints (or lack thereof) posited by the original post, that multiple Demonic Tutor and Yawgmoth's Bargain are fine, but no Sol Ring/Moxen/Lotus
If you're building a pure storm deck, you're going to want to maximize the number of ritual effects you can run. The Drain Life effects are not nearly good enough for this kind of deck.
Your list would probably look something like this:
Thank you for the feedback. I was just wondering though what other alternatives for LED and Chrome Mox? I want to get rid of Drain Life, Corrupt, and Consume Spirit. Take away 2 Swamps for 2 more Cabal Rituals, and replace the three drains with Lotus Pedal, Sol Ring, and something along the lines of LED or Chrome Mox. Also do you think i should just dump the Hypnotic Specter for more discard spells like Hymn to Tourach.
Thank you for the feedback. I was just wondering though what other alternatives for LED and Chrome Mox? I want to get rid of Drain Life, Corrupt, and Consume Spirit. Take away 2 Swamps for 2 more Cabal Rituals, and replace the three drains with Lotus Pedal, Sol Ring, and something along the lines of LED or Chrome Mox. Also do you think i should just dump the Hypnotic Specter for more discard spells like Hymn to Tourach.
LED is the card that makes infernal tutor work so well, so you might have to drop both of those. Fortunately you already have four demonic tutors. I didn't notice that hypnotic spectre was in the deck. He really doesn't fit. If you need more mana, lake of the dead is decent if you're willing to wait for a turn three combo, but it requires a high swamp count. Culling The Weak is one of the best rituals ever, but requires a creature (usually phyrexian walkers or shield spheres)
I want to keep the deck almost just like Wildfire393 posted. I want to swap out Chrome Mox for Sol Ring for sure. But would i need more mana past that? I want to keep infernal tutor just because it seems like a good card to have because i could use it to search for another ritual or something like that (2 tutors is always good lol) but im gonna be honest i dont wanna put down a few hundred for 4 LED. So the decklist would look somethng like this
I was thinking i could swap it out for Vampiric Tutor since i have the Yawgmoth's Bargain. Also Grim Tutor could possibly work in that spot. Worse comes to worse I could just stick with Demonic Tutor and put another discard or maybe Culling the Weak, but if i do that ill need to put in a creature instead of the Lake of the Dead or something like that maybe.
Vampiric Tutor would be alright, just remember that losing 2 life means you'll draw 2 less cards off Yawgmoth's Bargain. Keeping the life total high is a reason to not play Gitaxian Probe which would otherwise make the list of many storm decks, and a reason to play Duress over Thoughtseize.
Grim Tutor isn't exactly a budget card ($200+ USD) but if you have it already I guess it would be alright.
I was thinking i could swap it out for Vampiric Tutor since i have the Yawgmoth's Bargain. Also Grim Tutor could possibly work in that spot. Worse comes to worse I could just stick with Demonic Tutor and put another discard or maybe Culling the Weak, but if i do that ill need to put in a creature instead of the Lake of the Dead or something like that maybe.
Grim tutor costs more than LED does by a significant margin. For lake of the dead, only run 1-2 if any at all. You don't want to draw them in multiples. Vampiric tutor fits well, but as stated above, it cuts into your card draw.
I didn't know that lol. I assumed it costed around the same as the other tutors (which from what i have seen is 30-50 dollars). And okay then how about this
I feel like this isn't half bad. I don't think the 2 health drawback on Vampiric Tutor isn't too bad just because by the time I am using them it'll either be my winning turn or close to it.
To replace Vampiric Tutor could i use Doubling Cube? With all my mana acceleration i would have literally TOO much mana using that lol. and its 80 dollars cheaper for 4 of them so thats a perk (eventually i will buy Vamp Tutor though)
Doubling cube isn't nearly as good as first glance would indicate. If you play and activate it in the same turn, you will have to have 11 mana to net two. Compare that with dark ritual which costs one mana to net two. By the time doubling cube becomes advantageous, you really don't need it any more. Even high tide (the most mana intensive version of storm that I know of) doesn't need it because going from 15 to 20 mana at the cost of a card isn't that relevant when they could have cast turnabout to jump to 20-30 mana easily. You could replace the vamp tutors with mishra's baubles or something similar for now to reduce deck size.
Thank you for the insight I didn't think of it that way. I replaced it with Mishras bauble in the mean time. I'm glad I got that straightened out because I wasn't sure if doubling cube was as good as I thought.
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18 Swamp
Spells
4 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Yawgmoth's Bargain
4 Dark Ritual
4 Corrupt
4 Consume Spirit
4 Drain Life
4 Demonic Tutor
4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Cabal Ritual
4 Hypnotic Spectre
I'm not sure if i should replace Inquisition of Kozilek with something else like Duress or Thoughtseize or something like that. I also want to try to find a replacement for Corrupt because it has such a high mana cost. Maybe more discards or something I'm really not sure. I'm also thinking about adding Cabal Coffee. Any suggestions are welcome.
Edit: Thank you all for the help i really appreciate it. This is the updated deck list
1 Lake of the Dead
4 Vampiric Tutor (maybe unless someone convinces me otherwise)
4 Yawgmoth's Bargain
4 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Demonic Tutor
4 Sol Ring
4 Dark Ritual
4 Lotus Petal
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Duress
4 Tendrils of Agony
Although I am still not sure about Vampiric Tutor due to the fact that getting that will cost me another 100 or so dollars and I just am not sure about it yet.
These cards are Vintage restricted.
For more Bargining, use Necropotence*, for more Tutoring use Vampiric Tutor*, Infernal Tutor, and or Grim Tutor.
Infernal Tutor requires you to have an empty hand, so that's where Lion's Eye Diamond* come in.
Cards with a * are Vintage Restricted
Silence can help make sure you can go off without disruption.
I had those to do sustained damage until I was ready to make my opponent blow up. But what cards would you suggest I replace those with? I really like Jet Medallion but other than that I'm not sure cause switching the other two cards with more discard seems like a lot of discard lol.
One variant that a friend of mine plays looks like this:
9 Swamp
2 Phyrexian Tower
1 Bojuka bog
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4 Phyrexian Walker
4 Kobolds of Kher Keep
4 Crookshank Kobolds
4 Mishra's Bauble
4 Urza's Bauble
4 Dark Ritual
4 Lotus Petal
4 Culling the Weak
2 Cabal Ritual
4 Ad Nauseam
2 Tendrils of Agony
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Diabolic Intent
Also check out the spanish inquisition primer: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/established-legacy/combo/179815-deck-spanish-inquisition-b-x-storm-combo
If you're building a pure storm deck, you're going to want to maximize the number of ritual effects you can run. The Drain Life effects are not nearly good enough for this kind of deck.
Your list would probably look something like this:
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Lotus Petal
4 Chrome Mox
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Demonic Tutor
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Yawgmoth's Bargain
4 Duress
16 Swamp
Ideally you storm out on turn one or two, chaining a few rituals into a tutor into Bargain or Will into Tendrils
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4 Yawgmoth's Bargain
4 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Demonic Tutor
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Sol Ring
4 Lotus Petal
4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Duress
4 Lake of the Dead (maybe)
16 Swamp
I'm at a loss of what to use where Lake of the Dead is. Maybe something like Bubbling Muck just for a little more mana boost and storm count.
You could play Demonic Consultation instead. Its very budget and relatively safe since you're playing 4-of everything.
Grim Tutor isn't exactly a budget card ($200+ USD) but if you have it already I guess it would be alright.
Grim tutor costs more than LED does by a significant margin. For lake of the dead, only run 1-2 if any at all. You don't want to draw them in multiples. Vampiric tutor fits well, but as stated above, it cuts into your card draw.
1 Lake of the Dead
4 Vampiric Tutor (maybe unless someone convinces me otherwise)
4 Yawgmoth's Bargain
4 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Demonic Tutor
4 Sol Ring
4 Dark Ritual
4 Lotus Petal
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Duress
4 Tendrils of Agony
I feel like this isn't half bad. I don't think the 2 health drawback on Vampiric Tutor isn't too bad just because by the time I am using them it'll either be my winning turn or close to it.