Thanks for checkin out my thread. I've been working on this deck for a while now and would like some feedback from everyone. The general idea is to take advantage of large creature only damage spells by sharing it with the owner. This is obviously a fun casual deck so no power and money's not an issue. Thanks everybody.
You really don't need dark ritual and desperate. What you want is to wait for an opponent to get a creature, cast the vein, then blast it. You're better of with a more stable mana sources than dark ritual and desperate ritual. Consider using artifact mana instead or cabal coffers (See below).
Instead of shivan meteor (which is really good 13 damage for 5 mana) consider going for a mono-black approach then using drain life, consume spirit, and corrupt and use cabal coffers to power them out. While this deviates slightly from "creature only damage" in that you can toss it at an opponent, it can still be used as such.
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"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
... consider going for a mono-black approach then using drain life, consume spirit, and corrupt and use cabal coffers to power them out. While this deviates slightly from "creature only damage" in that you can toss it at an opponent, it can still be used as such.
I would consider that a completely different deck idea. It would make the Veins and Agony simply creature kill spells. Why even aim it at the creature with drain life effects if you can target the player?
Keeping with the original casual idea, the card you really, REALLY NEED is 4X Treacherous Link. You play your Agony or Veins, smash the creature with the Meteor, and the creature dies. Now you have to wait for them to drop another creature (or Orchard them one) and for you to get another Agony or Veins (or tutor). Not so with the Link. The damage is redirected, the creature stays, then you hit it with another Meteor or Covenent to END THE GAME.
That being said, I would consider keeping the mana accel. It can help to to end the game quicker. Two Meteors + Link = game. One Meteor + Covenent + Link = game.
I would consider that a completely different deck idea. It would make the Veins and Agony simply creature kill spells. Why even aim it at the creature with drain life effects if you can target the player?
Keeping with the original casual idea, the card you really, REALLY NEED is 4X Treacherous Link. You play your Agony or Veins, smash the creature with the Meteor, and the creature dies. Now you have to wait for them to drop another creature (or Orchard them one) and for you to get another Agony or Veins (or tutor). Not so with the Link. The damage is redirected, the creature stays, then you hit it with another Meteor or Covenent to END THE GAME.
That being said, I would consider keeping the mana accel. It can help to to end the game quicker. Two Meteors + Link = game. One Meteor + Covenent + Link = game.
Well, Treacherous Link was in the original version but it doesnt have another card like it. Binding Agony and Ragged Veins can stack with one another. Consistancy in either two enchantments and one damage spell or 2 damage spells and one enchantment for 20+.
The Dark rituals are there to power out early disruption. Turn one, ritual to hippie. Turn two Hymn. Hard to get going when your my opponent is down three random cards by turn two.
The desperate ritual is kinda more a mana fixer then accel. I find the meteors two red requirement hard to meet sometimes cause the deck's mostly black. So those help with givin me RRR when only one R required.
Also, not such a fan of just droppin the whole theme for the monoblack idea. This is a fun deck, thanks anyway.
Appreciate the replies so far.
fatal attraction would need to be on a rather large creature to occure more then one upkeep. Besides, I would rather just smoke a critter if it were that big then let him pound on me. REALLY like the mogg maniac. stuffy doll seems to be rather expensive to cast. Indestrucable is a nice touch though. And the rituals would make it a bit easier to get out. I'll playtest these to see how they work out. Blockers are a nice addition.
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What about Blasphemous Act? Chain Reaction? These can deal whopping amounts of damage to creatures, but if your opponents decide to slow-play once they know your game plan (slow playing for answers to you) then Act may not be castable, and Chain may not do much damage.
4 Ragged Veins
4 Shivan Meteor
4 Fire Covenant
4 Dark Ritual
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Hypnotic Specter
1 Vamperic Tutor
4 Desperate Ritual
2 Infernal Tutor
7 Mountains
9 Swamps
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Terramorphic Expanse
Instead of shivan meteor (which is really good 13 damage for 5 mana) consider going for a mono-black approach then using drain life, consume spirit, and corrupt and use cabal coffers to power them out. While this deviates slightly from "creature only damage" in that you can toss it at an opponent, it can still be used as such.
"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
I would consider that a completely different deck idea. It would make the Veins and Agony simply creature kill spells. Why even aim it at the creature with drain life effects if you can target the player?
Keeping with the original casual idea, the card you really, REALLY NEED is 4X Treacherous Link. You play your Agony or Veins, smash the creature with the Meteor, and the creature dies. Now you have to wait for them to drop another creature (or Orchard them one) and for you to get another Agony or Veins (or tutor). Not so with the Link. The damage is redirected, the creature stays, then you hit it with another Meteor or Covenent to END THE GAME.
That being said, I would consider keeping the mana accel. It can help to to end the game quicker. Two Meteors + Link = game. One Meteor + Covenent + Link = game.
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Well, Treacherous Link was in the original version but it doesnt have another card like it. Binding Agony and Ragged Veins can stack with one another. Consistancy in either two enchantments and one damage spell or 2 damage spells and one enchantment for 20+.
The Dark rituals are there to power out early disruption. Turn one, ritual to hippie. Turn two Hymn. Hard to get going when your my opponent is down three random cards by turn two.
The desperate ritual is kinda more a mana fixer then accel. I find the meteors two red requirement hard to meet sometimes cause the deck's mostly black. So those help with givin me RRR when only one R required.
Also, not such a fan of just droppin the whole theme for the monoblack idea. This is a fun deck, thanks anyway.
Appreciate the replies so far.
Seething Song might be nice alternative to the red ritual. Playtesting may be required.
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stuffy doll seems to be rather expensive to cast. Indestrucable is a nice touch though. And the rituals would make it a bit easier to get out. I'll playtest these to see how they work out. Blockers are a nice addition.
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What about Blasphemous Act? Chain Reaction? These can deal whopping amounts of damage to creatures, but if your opponents decide to slow-play once they know your game plan (slow playing for answers to you) then Act may not be castable, and Chain may not do much damage.
Might be sideboardable or meta dependent.
Into the Maw of Hell and Volcano Hellion are possibilities.
EDIT: Corrected the Hellion I meant.
These four may still be worse than Meteor plus Covenant though.
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