I originally posted this in an older thread, but I'm not sure if anyone is still reading that one. So I'm opening a new one and hope to get a little bit of discussion.
I play in a group with four guys. We play in teams mostly THG.
Please tell me what you think about the following deck.
I'm open for any suggestions.
The manabase is fine. The main things to consider are:
A) Adding a Green source for potential DRS lifegain. Very unlikely to matter but it's an option.
B) Cutting some shocks for things like Exotic Orchard and Morphic Pool since they don't cost life. Again, not that important, but I have a difficult time justifying 3+ color MP decks that don't play 4x Exotic Orchard because it's so much better than any other land.
Baleful Strix doesn't bring anything meaningful to the deck and should be cut. It's way too "fair" for what you're trying to accomplish. That brings you down to 59 cards. The other slot should be Windfall. The deck looks good otherwise. It's something that I would gladly sleeve-up and play.
Still, if you want something more combo-centric you can make room for Leovold, Emissary of Trest and Dark Deal. Your current deck is fine, it doesn't need to be changed, but you can swap between Grixis, Sultai or even 4 color as you want.
There is only two lands in there who can produce red mana for sure. So I hope this is enough for all those Bolas spells. Exotic Orchard is great but when playing THG it could end up doniung nothing, so I'm just going to play 2 copies.
Well, thanks for all the help. I do now own four Dack Fayden and two Liliana of the Veils. Only four of those six cards have a place in my deck. I would really love to play the Lilianas, if only to impress my opponents. But I do fear that it might not be that great in our Two-Headed-Giant-Group.
We do not know aforehand, which player we play with and what kind of deck he has got. So if discarding hurts him, my beautiful Liliana would'nt help that much.
So are there any other alternatives, or are the Lilianas still the way to go?
So are there any other alternatives, or are the Lilianas still the way to go?
Cards like Arterial Flow exist if needed but Lili doesn't have to be cut simply because she harms your ally. She's still a powerful form of disruption + removal and her ultimate can often take a player out of the game. She's still a fantastic threat in 2HG and doesn't need to be removed.
I originally posted this in an older thread, but I'm not sure if anyone is still reading that one. So I'm opening a new one and hope to get a little bit of discussion.
I play in a group with four guys. We play in teams mostly THG.
Please tell me what you think about the following deck.
I'm open for any suggestions.
2 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Geier Reach Sanitarium
2 Island
3 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Steam Vents
2 Swamp
4 Watery Grave
1 Brainstorm
2 Dack Fayden
2 Dark Intimations
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Dig Through Time
1 Geth's Grimoire
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
1 Ponder
4 Preordain
1 Sol Ring
1 The Eldest Reborn
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Waste Not
2 Baleful Strix
4 Burglar Rat
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
2 Notion Thief
Regarding the lands I would really like to play Geier Reach Sanitarium. The other lands are kind of set. Do you think I would need more?
You will also see that there are 61 cards. I don't know which one to cut.
Also I would like to know if any more finishing options are necessary, or if more ore stronger creatures are needed.
Any other ideas?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Max
A) Adding a Green source for potential DRS lifegain. Very unlikely to matter but it's an option.
B) Cutting some shocks for things like Exotic Orchard and Morphic Pool since they don't cost life. Again, not that important, but I have a difficult time justifying 3+ color MP decks that don't play 4x Exotic Orchard because it's so much better than any other land.
Baleful Strix doesn't bring anything meaningful to the deck and should be cut. It's way too "fair" for what you're trying to accomplish. That brings you down to 59 cards. The other slot should be Windfall. The deck looks good otherwise. It's something that I would gladly sleeve-up and play.
Still, if you want something more combo-centric you can make room for Leovold, Emissary of Trest and Dark Deal. Your current deck is fine, it doesn't need to be changed, but you can swap between Grixis, Sultai or even 4 color as you want.
4x Exotic Orchard
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Polluted Delta
2x Scalding Tarn
2x Morphic Pool
1x Watery Grave
1x Blood Crypt
1x Steam Vents
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Breeding Pool
1x Swamp
1x Island
1x Geier Reach Sanitarium
4x Deathrite Shaman
3x Leovold, Emissary of Trest
2x Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
2x Notion Thief
Spells (25)
4x Preordain
1x Ponder
1x Brainstorm
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Sol Ring
4x Waste Not
2x Cut // Ribbons
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Dark Deal
2x Dack Fayden
2x Liliana of the Veil
1x Windfall
1x The Eldest Reborn
1x Dig Through Time
1x Treasure Cruise
Other reasonable inclusions include things like Geth's Grimoire and Smothering Tithe.
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this is the latest version.
1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Exotic Orchard
1 Geier Reach Sanitarium
2 Island
2 Morphic Pool
3 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Steam Vents
2 Swamp
2 Watery Grave
1 Brainstorm
2 Dack Fayden
2 Dark Intimations
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Dig Through Time
1 Geth's Grimoire
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
1 Ponder
4 Preordain
1 Sol Ring
1 The Eldest Reborn
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Waste Not
1 Windfall
4 Burglar Rat
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
2 Notion Thief
There is only two lands in there who can produce red mana for sure. So I hope this is enough for all those Bolas spells. Exotic Orchard is great but when playing THG it could end up doniung nothing, so I'm just going to play 2 copies.
I'm also considering NOT purchasing the 2 Liliana of the Veils and playing with four copies of Dack Fayden.
Max
That's fine too. Lili is great and all but ho man that pricetag -_-.
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Green - Blue - Red - White - Gold
We do not know aforehand, which player we play with and what kind of deck he has got. So if discarding hurts him, my beautiful Liliana would'nt help that much.
So are there any other alternatives, or are the Lilianas still the way to go?
Thanks
Cards like Arterial Flow exist if needed but Lili doesn't have to be cut simply because she harms your ally. She's still a powerful form of disruption + removal and her ultimate can often take a player out of the game. She's still a fantastic threat in 2HG and doesn't need to be removed.
Guilds of Ravnica - Commander 2018 - Core 2019 - Battlebond - Dominaria - Rivals of Ixalan - Ixalan - Commander 2017 - Hour of Devastation - Amonket - Aether Revolt - Commander 2016 - Kaladesh - Conspiracy 2 - Eldritch Moon - Shadows Over Innistrad - Oath of the Gatewatch - Commander 2015 - Battle for Zendikar - Magic Origins - Dragons of Tarkir
Green - Blue - Red - White - Gold