So, just wondering what you guys think. Maybe I'll even get a reply
My friends and I made a 60-card format(w/SB), no banlist, no set restrictions(other than silver bordered cards and ante). The only restriction is the deck in total must be $30 or less(we use MTGGoldfish for this, because we agreed on it).
Just really curious -- would you play it w/friends, and if you would, what deck?
P.S. I did make another post referencing this format, but I didn't go into detail there.
idk that you should unilaterally ban silver-bordered cards, some of them are actually decent magic cards. Blast from the Past, Grusilda, Monster Masher, Who/What/When/Where/Why quickly come to mind, but i'm sure there are others. i will say that i personally dont like formats like this, simply b/c all cards arent created equal & wizards has been historically bad @ correctly assigning rarity to cards. i know you said ur basing it on a budget vs rarity, so its not pauper, but in all honesty it is pauper; so thats where i'd go to find decks to build.
@d0rsal, I know that there are plenty of fine silver bordered, I just decided to go with a blanket ban at least for now bc I don't want to go through every single one. Although I may set up a playgroup ban system of some sort if we want it, which will allow us to just add them all in.
Also, a quick look at the Mtggoldfish's Pauper metagame tells me that most pauper decks(other than heroic) are well over $30. I know we can go for budget builds, but the point also wasn't to netdeck anything but to brew and create our own stupid meta.
I get where you're coming from, but in case you didn't know I'd just like to say that many format outlaws such as Mental Misstep, Gitaxian Probe, Treasure Cruise and Gush(just off the top of my head from the lists I've been brewing) are very much legal. That gives U a huge presence. Black gets Dark Ritual and a couple other absurd cards, Red's got a good thing going with aggro, White can do weenie I guess(white always sucks) and Green could easily do high power stompy within the budget. I don't know about multicolored, as that opens up so many difficult decisions it wouldn't be possible to list them here.
I personally think it'll be fairly balanced, especially as I know that there are some definite Uncounterable creatures to beat U and some Hexproof stuff to deal with B.
I cut 2x Mental Misstep because it's $2 and the budget is weird. I went with Foil here because I know my friend's playstyles might not make Daze effective enough to do anything.
And yes, non-snow basics don't count towards the budget.
Off the top of my head(I've looked at most of those cards) that would be ~$45 w/out counting Thing in the Ice. It stacks up fast, and Preordain/Ponder are bother about $2-4 apiece. It's a really interesting game because you think you can run some decent cards, then you check the price and it's about your normal deckbuilding budget type stuff, and then you realize it takes up 50% of your budget in one playset and you have to cut it.
The nice thing is that there are a lot of banned cards that are really cheap, so we can play with legends like Hymn to Tourach, Treasure Cruise, and even run crap like Grapeshot if we felt like it. My friend loves Island Sanctuary, so he's probably building a deck with that.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-list-of-free-cast-cards-and-similar-effects/ has a lot of what I presume will be absurd cards in the format. I feel that skirting mana costs, either by using Gushing effects or with cards like Dark Ritual, will be the best thing to do. Especially because Mono Colored is so heavily incentivized by virtue of an extreme lack of fixing. Some colors don't have cheap enough untapped fixing to be run at all. I think RB decks will have decent fixing by virtue of their lack of play in Pioneer, and maybe WB because Caves of Koilos is still $1, but everything else is probably out the window unless you want to play taplands.
I like the idea because the cost dictates perceived “power” and value of the cards. However, Mtg is funny that way. A particular “expensive”/powerful card may not combo well if not paired with other expensive rares. So it’s hard to value (with money) any particular card, especially with casual play. At least that’s my humble opinion. But if you’re happy then go for it!
For casual kitchen table play, we’ve always enjoyed NOBLE FORMAT where you make a 60 card deck, 1R, 4U and the rest Commons. We choose to start with the rare card in the Commander spot and can be cast any time (like normal commander rules). We’ve found that this creates a really fun decision making problem of which U/R cards to choose. Plus, the process of building decks is very very simple and never changes (whereas prices may change over time).
Back when going to the LGS was still a thing, I played Standard Artisan: Commons/Uncommons only. I found it a remarkably deep format, cheap and fun. I brewed two dozen decks for it with the Standard cardpool alone. Imagine what you can do with a larger format.
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My friends and I made a 60-card format(w/SB), no banlist, no set restrictions(other than silver bordered cards and ante). The only restriction is the deck in total must be $30 or less(we use MTGGoldfish for this, because we agreed on it).
Just really curious -- would you play it w/friends, and if you would, what deck?
P.S. I did make another post referencing this format, but I didn't go into detail there.
Also, a quick look at the Mtggoldfish's Pauper metagame tells me that most pauper decks(other than heroic) are well over $30. I know we can go for budget builds, but the point also wasn't to netdeck anything but to brew and create our own stupid meta.
I get where you're coming from, but in case you didn't know I'd just like to say that many format outlaws such as Mental Misstep, Gitaxian Probe, Treasure Cruise and Gush(just off the top of my head from the lists I've been brewing) are very much legal. That gives U a huge presence. Black gets Dark Ritual and a couple other absurd cards, Red's got a good thing going with aggro, White can do weenie I guess(white always sucks) and Green could easily do high power stompy within the budget. I don't know about multicolored, as that opens up so many difficult decisions it wouldn't be possible to list them here.
I personally think it'll be fairly balanced, especially as I know that there are some definite Uncounterable creatures to beat U and some Hexproof stuff to deal with B.
this is literally off the cuff, as i didnt bother to put it thru the mtg goldfish ringer; if you will:
4 delver
4 petramander
4 thing in the ice
4 void snare
4 daze
4 spell pierce
4 misstep
4 counterspell
4 preordain
4 ponder
4 opt
16 island
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Brineborn Cutthroat
4 Counterspell
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Foil
4 Gush
4 Treasure Cruise
4 Though Scour
4 Accumulated Knowledge
2 Mana Leak
2 Opt
I cut 2x Mental Misstep because it's $2 and the budget is weird. I went with Foil here because I know my friend's playstyles might not make Daze effective enough to do anything.
And yes, non-snow basics don't count towards the budget.
Off the top of my head(I've looked at most of those cards) that would be ~$45 w/out counting Thing in the Ice. It stacks up fast, and Preordain/Ponder are bother about $2-4 apiece. It's a really interesting game because you think you can run some decent cards, then you check the price and it's about your normal deckbuilding budget type stuff, and then you realize it takes up 50% of your budget in one playset and you have to cut it.
The nice thing is that there are a lot of banned cards that are really cheap, so we can play with legends like Hymn to Tourach, Treasure Cruise, and even run crap like Grapeshot if we felt like it. My friend loves Island Sanctuary, so he's probably building a deck with that.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-list-of-free-cast-cards-and-similar-effects/ has a lot of what I presume will be absurd cards in the format. I feel that skirting mana costs, either by using Gushing effects or with cards like Dark Ritual, will be the best thing to do. Especially because Mono Colored is so heavily incentivized by virtue of an extreme lack of fixing. Some colors don't have cheap enough untapped fixing to be run at all. I think RB decks will have decent fixing by virtue of their lack of play in Pioneer, and maybe WB because Caves of Koilos is still $1, but everything else is probably out the window unless you want to play taplands.
For casual kitchen table play, we’ve always enjoyed NOBLE FORMAT where you make a 60 card deck, 1R, 4U and the rest Commons. We choose to start with the rare card in the Commander spot and can be cast any time (like normal commander rules). We’ve found that this creates a really fun decision making problem of which U/R cards to choose. Plus, the process of building decks is very very simple and never changes (whereas prices may change over time).